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    ang pag intertwined sa wires ug ang gidak-on, check the twist per pair per inch ug pag intertwined sa 4-pairs + ang gidak-on sa per wire gauge, mas klaro ni sa belden brand cat cables...

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    @netcommando support ko ana bro,tried that also

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by netcommando View Post
    ang pag intertwined sa wires ug ang gidak-on, check the twist per pair per inch ug pag intertwined sa 4-pairs + ang gidak-on sa per wire gauge, mas klaro ni sa belden brand cat cables...
    akong nabantayan sa:

    cat5: hugot ang pag-intertwined sa mga wires... so, gahi cya hikapon or bus-ok cya...

    cat5e: murag luag2x cya gamay compare sa cat5 mao lumoy cya hikapon...

    sakto ba ko bro? dli ko ka.compare sa ilang gidak-on sa ilang wire kay murag prehas raman ni cla kadak-a diri... hehehe...

    unsa man jud diay standard nga sukod/length bro para minus ug interference... 35-90m? or 100m... if malapas na ana nga length, unsa angayang buhaton... magbutang ug mga devices like switches?

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    obserbahe lng ng mga twistings u can see the difference...

    100meters man ang max theoritically, u can add bridge or switch. kanang interference depende na sa imo pagpahiluna sa imo wirings, mo matter jud ng taas na unya labi nag duol ug mga ac wires, mo pass duol ug naay electric motors nag andar

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    nice thread....... na refresh ko...whhohhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by netcommando View Post
    very sure kaau ko bro... 16 years of networking experience from 2.4kbps speed to Philippines' fastest 10Gbps & currently expanding to 100Gbps per port, from bus topology network to full mesh, with eigrp, ospf, bgp, mpls... name it and i standby my handle head up high as "netcommando" for no reasons.

    i just don't like the statement nga " basta maka-comment lang", i find it offensive... you can check it your self at 35meters to 90meters, let's see the results... check the ping delay & jitters.
    ...sure?

    ...the one thing I am sure is that, cat5e UTP cable is a twisted pair that has 6 copper wires measuring the same length and laying on the same path, thus, according to the ANSI/TIA/EIA standard for category 5e cable that we may classified as a UTP Cable (TIA/EIA 568-5-A) the maximum length for a cable segment is 100 meters that's 328 in feet, right?, in fact, each of the four pairs in a Cat 5 cable has differing precise number of twists per metre based on prime numbers to minimize crosstalk between the pairs, the pairs are made from 24 gauge (AWG) copper wires within the cables, thus, regardless of not following or following the standard of the cable color coding scheme preho rana sila ug labay sa signal, since they are based on 24 gauge (AWG) copper wires, on based from what you have commented na "mo-vary jud sa length kung e-customize nimo ang iyang color coding schemes without following the standard color coding order", which is you are wrong!, in spite of, the only thing (would be) you are not following the order have imposed by EIA according sa Telecommunications Ccabling Systems Regulations, diba?

    Aahhh Uuhmmmm, dili nalang ko mag-mention kung kinsa ko kay lain kaau paminawn... mo ~wave~ nalang ko



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  7. #67

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    now u get your books and in details, ok no problem with that explanation... my previous post was based on actual experience and stock knowledge.

    but i still stand na mag problema jud ang connection when not using the standard color coding labi nag mag kataas ang length, naka experience gani ko ug buhi ang link but no traffic on an electrical gigabit connection by not following the color code.

    not all in books are happening in actual production... maybe the difference is that ur into installations and i'm into troubleshooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wire View Post
    ...sure?

    ...the one thing I am sure is that, cat5e UTP cable is a twisted pair that has 6 copper wires measuring the same length and laying on the same path, thus, according to the ANSI/TIA/EIA standard for category 5e cable that we may classified as a UTP Cable (TIA/EIA 568-5-A) the maximum length for a cable segment is 100 meters that's 328 in feet, right?, in fact, each of the four pairs in a Cat 5 cable has differing precise number of twists per metre based on prime numbers to minimize crosstalk between the pairs, the pairs are made from 24 gauge (AWG) copper wires within the cables, thus, regardless of not following or following the standard of the cable color coding scheme preho rana sila ug labay sa signal, since they are based on 24 gauge (AWG) copper wires, on based from what you have commented na "mo-vary jud sa length kung e-customize nimo ang iyang color coding schemes without following the standard color coding order", which is you are wrong!, in spite of, the only thing (would be) you are not following the order have imposed by EIA according sa Telecommunications Ccabling Systems Regulations, diba?

    Aahhh Uuhmmmm, dili nalang ko mag-mention kung kinsa ko kay lain kaau paminawn... mo ~wave~ nalang ko



    .

    kaila ko aning taohana ai. taga CIT gyud ni cya karun naa cya sa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netcommando View Post
    now u get your books and in details, ok no problem with that explanation... my previous post was based on actual experience and stock knowledge.

    but i still stand na mag problema jud ang connection when not using the standard color coding labi nag mag kataas ang length, naka experience gani ko ug buhi ang link but no traffic on an electrical gigabit connection by not following the color code.

    not all in books are happening in actual production... maybe the difference is that ur into installations and i'm into troubleshooting.

    sir na troubleshoot nimo nganu gyud toh sah? paki post pud sir unsay diagnostic report nimo atoh para maka balo pud og maka explain why na ina ana na cya. para ma report pud natoh sa manufacturer ang problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dammy View Post
    sir na troubleshoot nimo nganu gyud toh sah? paki post pud sir unsay diagnostic report nimo atoh para maka balo pud og maka explain why na ina ana na cya. para ma report pud natoh sa manufacturer ang problem.
    it was in 2005, between 2 manufacturer... nokia and allied telesyn. i already raised a case and their answer?

    "just follow the standard color coding."

    diagnostic report:
    link is up, protocol is down
    ping - rto
    forwarding database - no mac registered on that port

    ethereal result:
    no nms transactions
    no dhcp transactions
    no pppoe transactions
    Last edited by netcommando; 08-02-2011 at 12:27 PM.

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