MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[fingolfin]

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there you go mr. fin, manny has already answered your "most V victims have intensive criminal records".. you don't even have any CONCRETE PROOF to back up that statement of yours, so... need i say more?

let's not talk about analogy here mr. fin.. coz i don't even see any logic as to why V's should be of great and utmost importance..

and never put it in my face that i don't know how worse crime is there in cebu coz I KNOW HOW IT IS.. and i know how ILLOGICAL it is to have V's when they're not even doing any good to start out with..

.. ha?? the proof is right in front of you, it's all over the news. Most who died in the V's hands have criminal records. And why should we not discuss about analogy?? IN AND OUT OF PRISON ... ponder on that... and who should we give importance to?? The victims of criminals or the victims of the vigilantes?? hhhmmm.... it seems like you're protecting those criminals.....

[fingolfin]

TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF VIGILANTES STYLE KILLINGS! what if one of your closed friends, relatives or worst one of your siblings was killed by vigilante because he/she was on the list of "people (people who had priviously served time in jail) needed to be killed for the sake of peace and order" r u going to leap and rejoice bec. he was killed eventhough he showed remorse and tried renewing his life?
try putting yourselves in the shoes of the relatives/friends of those who were killed.

... and let me ask you try putting yourself in the shoes of the victims of snatching, robbery, hold-up, rape and homicide who are relying on our judicial system to give them justice but none is given to them ?? ......

[jugs_06]

.. ha?? the proof is right in front of you, it's all over the news. Most who died in the V's hands have criminal records. And why should we not discuss about analogy?? IN AND OUT OF PRISON ... ponder on that... and who should we give importance to?? The victims of criminals or the victims of the vigilantes?? hhhmmm.... it seems like you're protecting those criminals.....

hehehe.. protecting those criminals.. say what?

IN AND OUT OF PRISON.. well my simple brain says those criminals still has the chance to change and repent for themselves.. i'm trying not to mix spirituality and morality in here blah blah so leave it at that..

oh by the way, if we simply rely on the news my simple brain says snatching the cellphone of your next door neighbor deserves death and politicians stealing millions of money still deserves to be in office.. ^_^

[fingolfin]

hehehe.. protecting those criminals.. say what?

IN AND OUT OF PRISON.. well my simple brain says those criminals still has the chance to change and repent for themselves.. i'm trying not to mix spirituality and morality in here blah blah so leave it at that..

oh by the way, if we simply rely on the news my simple brain says snatching the cellphone of your next door neighbor deserves death and politicians stealing millions of money still deserves to be in office.. ^_^

... blah blah blah ?? . Is that how you explain things?? Then, there's no point in discussing with you....

.. chance to change When you've done time in prison, once will be enough. But then again, as you put it, your simple brain can't comprehend this things, resorting to blah blah blah .

[jugs_06]

... blah blah blah ?? . Is that how you explain things?? Then, there's no point in discussing with you....

.. chance to change When you've done time in prison, once will be enough. But then again, as you put it, your simple brain can't comprehend this things, resorting to blah blah blah .

this seems to be a cycle dr. fin.. if you've read ALL of my comments/posts in this thread i've already explained enough.. but it seems that you pro-V's (?) are the ones who don't seem to get the point.. blah blah?

read again..

IN AND OUT OF PRISON.. well my simple brain says those criminals still has the chance to change and repent for themselves..

enough? now, my turn.. tell me what you think about this..

oh by the way, if we simply rely on the news my simple brain says snatching the cellphone of your next door neighbor deserves death and politicians stealing millions of money still deserves to be in office..

[fingolfin]

... to kill a politician will resort to chaos. Let's say, kill a congressman, who would sit in his place?? will his successor continue his projects?? And there would be changes in the new congressman's office personel.

... No, your ideal of chance to change is shallow. If a criminal is caught then put to jail and released, if he is HONEST AND SINCERE enough that he would change, then he will not go back to his old ways of crime. This is the point you're not getting. Should i expect another blah blah from you??

[jugs_06]

... to kill a politician will resort to chaos. Let's say, kill a congressman, who would sit in his place?? will his successor continue his projects?? And there would be changes in the new congressman's office personel.

so what's the difference? different amount of crime resulting to a different kind of punishment? oh.. the more severe a crime is, the lesser the punishment then, because oh by the way, he's a politician.. nice logic..

... No, your ideal of chance to change is shallow. If a criminal is caught then put to jail and released, if he is HONEST AND SINCERE enough that he would change, then he will not go back to his old ways of crime. This is the point you're not getting. Should i expect another blah blah from you??

shallow? killing people is shallow..

[Juan Miguel]

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[Gwynhuever]

wa na ko kasubay sa mga lantugi dire da....pero balik2 lang ko sa akong position ani nga topic...i am against vigilantism....

pero sakto sad si springfield...inig human nato hatag sa atong opinion ngano against ta...nindot unta naa follow up topic...what we can do to solve the problems without resorting to vigilante killings....

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT : makabangka man pod ta ug tikila o dyani woker ana maam Gwynn hehehe .

I am PRO VIGILANTE but nakahatag ko ug REALISTIC SUGGESTION on how to make the VIGILANTES " NOT NEEDED " anymore . Kamong mga ANTI V ?