MERGED: Divorce in the Philippines

[3nZ0y]

no to divorce ko.... if naay problema with the spouse, id rather work it out.. mas maayo pa patas-an nalng ang legal age sa kaslon kaysa divorce..

grabe na kaayo ning atong mga bright nga politico : divorce + abortion = happy family?!

Do you mean to say to go with the battered martyr wife? Dude, not everything is as simple as it appears. Try not to be too idealistic.

unsa gamit mag minyo2x mo nya mag buwag ra diay?.. mas maayo pa mag "in a relationship" nalng kay sa divorce2x mao ra gahapon ang istorya..(unless nag prenup agreement)

Ah, okay. Question: do you prefer arrangements like live-in? Please state your reason.

[marqi_20]

for me no sayon ra kaayo i divorce diba for me save the marriage and ur family kung mahimo pa ang first thing ma affect ana is ur kids looy kaayo ang mga anak mag watak2x ang pamilya diba if naa na pero kung wla pa kay anak k mani siya for me marriage is a lifetime commitment this is my opinion......

[Eve's Apple Project]

@ 3nZOy:

Bai..that is not being Idealistic. that is being cautious because we are goign to open pandora's box nasad ani.. ngano diay bai, battered wife can't file a case against her abussive husband diay? does married wife has children? i came from a broken family (but both my mother & father did not get new partners, their just separated) years ago, i remembered nga it was WAR everyday. then they separated. we grew up struggling because my parent's didn't plan (i have 7 siblings). me & my siblings lived with relatives every now & then (mora mig naay nag ilis2 og duty sa amo relatives). so if my parents were given divorce do you think masulbad amo problema? wahaha Idealistic my A^^.i base my opinion on my own personal experience.

the problem in getting married kay dali ra kaayo sudlon, mabuntis lang gusto magminyo dayon (church wedding pay gusto)...then later pagwala nay lami ang kaminyo-on aw ngita dayon og lain.. butangi.. dili tungod pul-anon ang tao, ok ra magcge nalng og tilaw og bag-o. that is why i am not for it.. battered wife is only 1 of the many examples bai.. how bout polygamos husband/wife? ok ra to have divorce kay napul-an lang? wahaha paita. yaw nalgn pagminyo kung mao na...

[voldemort]

It's about time...

[3nZ0y]

@ 3nZOy:

Bai..that is not being Idealistic. that is being cautious because we are goign to open pandora's box nasad ani.. ngano diay bai, battered wife can't file a case against her abussive husband diay? does married wife has children? i came from a broken family (but both my mother & father did not get new partners, their just separated) years ago, i remembered nga it was WAR everyday. then they separated. we grew up struggling because my parent's didn't plan (i have 7 siblings). me & my siblings lived with relatives every now & then (mora mig naay nag ilis2 og duty sa amo relatives). so if my parents were given divorce do you think masulbad amo problema? wahaha Idealistic my A^^.i base my opinion on my own personal experience.

the problem in getting married kay dali ra kaayo sudlon, mabuntis lang gusto magminyo dayon (church wedding pay gusto)...then later pagwala nay lami ang kaminyo-on aw ngita dayon og lain.. butangi.. dili tungod pul-anon ang tao, ok ra magcge nalng og tilaw og bag-o. that is why i am not for it.. battered wife is only 1 of the many examples bai.. how bout polygamos husband/wife? ok ra to have divorce kay napul-an lang? wahaha paita. yaw nalgn pagminyo kung mao na...

Thank you for answering bay. I have a question, unsay gamit sa papel (marriage cert) if ang manag asawa kay nagbuwag and not anymore do their responsibilities to their partner and kids? Yes, battered wife can file a case if she has the courage to do so without fearing that it might tarnish the image of their family. And what if the marriage is beyond help? They will just live separate lives with their new live-in partner but keep their matrimonial vow to each other? How noble indeed.

[Eve's Apple Project]

@3nzoy: well, sadly bai that is something which is hard to answer..both have pros & cons (don't you think?) My mama & papa are ok living separate lives without partners. so if i base my opinion from my parent's situation, then what do you think? i just simply don't think we are ready for divorce. most of us don't even understand the concept of marraige in the first place.
do you think getting married because you got pregnant is a good? later she realizes she doesn't love her husband anymore because she found someone who can bring her a better life deserves divorce? just because you have shortcomings being a husband, it doesn't mean you should be dumped. right? & this is also a typical scenario bai..

[Eve's Apple Project]

@ 3nzoy: to answer you diay bai with the question: you can still do your responsiblity with your kids bai. at the same time, ill ask you that question: if you have divorce, can you do your responsibility to your kids if you have divorce? maybe you can, but what if you have additional kids from your new found partner (Plus pa both of you & your original partner)? how do you deal with it?

[3nZ0y]

@3nzoy: well, sadly bai that is something which is hard to answer..both have pros & cons (don't you think?) My mama & papa are ok living separate lives without partners. so if i base my opinion from my parent's situation, then what do you think? i just simply don't think we are ready for divorce. most of us don't even understand the concept of marraige in the first place.
do you think getting married because you got pregnant is a good? later she realizes she doesn't love her husband anymore because she found someone who can bring her a better life deserves divorce? just because you have shortcomings being a husband, it doesn't mean you should be dumped. right? & this is also a typical scenario bai..

I agree that, like anything else, there are pros and cons. So it boils down to 'does it offer more benefits compared to its disadvantages or the other way around?' That is what I am interested about.

I also don't agree in the very shallow reason that one has to be married if she had been pregnant. That is not enough reason anymore. I agree to divorce only as the last resort. Sometimes marriage, just like everything else, will have to come to its end.

@ 3nzoy: to answer you diay bai with the question: you can still do your responsiblity with your kids bai. at the same time, ill ask you that question: if you have divorce, can you do your responsibility to your kids if you have divorce? maybe you can, but what if you have additional kids from your new found partner (Plus pa both of you & your original partner)? how do you deal with it?

That is one of the benefits of divorce. Even after divorce, the spouses can still be civil with each other and continue to do their responsibilities to the child and ex-spouse. Visitation rights, alimony and child support are among the benefits that a child or ex-spouse may get from divorce which they can't from 'separation' (the not legal one). That is even better (the way I understand it) compared to annulment (in general sense) and legal separation.

I checked a number of articles and I realized that it really is not easy for a child to cope from his/her parent's divorce. But I understand that this is still better for them. I maintain my stand. I am for divorce only as a last resort. And I hope that the senate or the congress can provide a draft of the law sooner so that we can have 'solid' basis.

[Eve's Apple Project]

@ 3nzoy: mao lagi bai.. naa juy pros & cons ani.. marraige has become paper nalng.. the west have marraige councilors while we have beer for men & girlfriends for women. we don't seek professional help if we have family/marraige problems bai. our culture simply has not adopted the western culture yet (which i am happy nga dili ta parehas nila). thus, like you i stand on what i believe in (but opposite side "No to divorce" ko).

[four]

@ 3nzoy: mao lagi bai.. naa juy pros & cons ani.. marraige has become paper nalng.. the west have marraige councilors while we have beer for men & girlfriends for women. we don't seek professional help if we have family/marraige problems bai. our culture simply has not adopted the western culture yet (which i am happy nga dili ta parehas nila). thus, like you i stand on what i believe in (but opposite side "No to divorce" ko).

Up for you Eve! "NO" pud ko. I don't like the idea nga ang marraige mura nlng ug trial & error. There's no such thing as perfect partner. Ang angay, ma ngayo ta ug grasya sa Ginuo nga mka lahutay. Just keep the fire burning in your relationship pariha pg uyab pa. The reason why ang uban ma bugnaw sa iya partner ky nka kita ug lain or ang bana dako na kaayo tiyan ky sigi inum or ang asawa ky wala na hilam-os nya ng tung-its pa jud. But the saddest part is ang mga bata kay mao jud ma apiktahan. Spend some time together. I've been married for 9 years having 4 children, dghan kaayo challenges sa life padung didto and were expecting more to come. The secret is, bug-at na gani ang problema luhod then ask God for guidance and strength. Mao ra jud. Ako ra ni experience ako gi share. Thanks.

Peace everyone!