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    for your information, the earth does not reflect light to the moon.
    Your getting your facts wrong.
    it is the moon that reflects the sun's light to earth.
    because it has no atmosphere thus it acts like a mirror and is able to reflect sunlight.

    Why cant the earth reflect sunlight to the moon?
    because the earth has an atmosphere.
    That prevents light from being reflected away.

    The reflection from the boots of the astronauts in that photo was a focused light at close distance, it was a directed light. not a reflected light.
    splendid...brilliant...my 5 year old niece also have the same answer...lol

    the length of the shadow is as important as the angle.
    remember TRIGONOMETRY.
    both angles and lengths or distance are equally important in solving problems in TRIGO..
    But take note, angles and length of shadows can be affected by topography of the surface.
    Or maybe Rodsky knows this already.
    and what is your direct answer to treize's query? don't deflect the question...

    All his life neil armstrong lived on the shadow of doubt.
    A lot of people think he never walked on the moon.
    That scene there was his symbolic redemption.

    Even Armstrong himself states that the reason why he doesn't want a celebrity status is because he doesn't deserve it. Since when is the first man to walk on the moon not deserving to be a celebrity.
    Unless he never did walk on the moon.
    why focus solely on Armstrong, do you have the hots for him? lol
    Celebrity status you want? Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story movie series is based with Aldrin...

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    when diay last time ni adto ang US sa moon?

    wala cla plans mo balik para mag kuha ug clearer videos? kana televised na murag reality show ba para wa na gyud mo ingon not real hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by naGgeR View Post
    when diay last time ni adto ang US sa moon?
    December 16, 1972.

    At precisely 170 hours and 41 minutes mission elapsed time (MET) from liftoff, Gene Cernan was about to climb up back the LM's ladder and said these final words:

    170:41:00 Cernan: Bob, this is Gene, and I'm on the surface; and, as I take man's last step from the surface, back home for some time to come - but we believe not too long into the future - I'd like to just (say) what I believe history will record. That America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And, as we leave the Moon at Taurus- Littrow, we leave as we came and, God willing, as we shall return, with peace and hope for all mankind. "Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17."

    Apollo 17 Lunar Surface Journal

    Quote Originally Posted by naGgeR View Post
    wala cla plans mo balik para mag kuha ug clearer videos? kana televised na murag reality show ba para wa na gyud mo ingon not real hehehe
    Well the thing about conspiracy theorists is, they see a blurry video and immediate conclude "Ha! THAT'S FAKE!", when you put the complexity of the mission in perspective and realize, just like a "reality show" how complex that mission can be, and how by careful analysis and intelligent identification, you realize that this broadcast is actually live and indeed being broadcast on 3 different US TV Networks on the day the mission was happening.

    YouTube -Apollo 17 - EVA 1 Deep Core Sampling

    Now uso naman karon ang DVD nga naay mga subtitles right? Well, imagine the text that I posted below as "subtitles" to the video above. You may notice that the text I pasted below shows MET (mission elapsed time) which was being broadcast LIVE during December 12, 1972, on NATIONAL TV...so what could get more "reality show" than that? Nga ang reality shows man gani usually TAPED na man?

    120:22:36 Schmitt: No, that's good. Get in the middle. Get it in that place.

    120:22:38 Cernan: Right in this little...It's only about a 4-meter (diameter) depression.

    [Fendell finds Jack again. He is looking toward Gene.]

    120:22:42 Schmitt: Oh, wait a minute. Oh, you're on the other side of the rock. Okay.

    [On his way back to the geophone module, Jack stops at a meter-high rock due south of the Rover. He leans on it for a few seconds to examine the minerals and then goes to get the next geophone. The rock appears on the right side of AS17-147- 22549, taken near Geophone 3, and is in the center of AS17-147- 22584, taken near the RTG.]

    120:22:45 Cernan: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I want to get back here.

    120:22:49 Schmitt: That's good.

    120:22:51 Cernan: Oh, man, go slow. (Long Pause)

    [The sound of Gene's drilling can be heard. After examining the rock, Jack makes his way to the geophone module, describing the rock to Bob as he runs.]

    120:23:31 Schmitt: Bob, all of these big boulders around here that I've looked at are the same rock type. (Talking to himself) Ooh. Who pulled over the geophone module? (Pause) Can't imagine. (Pause) Okay. That sounds like the title of a book. (Long Pause)

    [Jack puts the geophone module upright, picks up geophone 2, and looks west. He is at the top of LMP-23.]

    120:24:23 Cernan: Oh, oh. There it went.

    120:24:26 Schmitt: What happened?

    120:24:28 Cernan: Oh, I lost my vise. I see it. I see it.

    [Gene is looking for his wrench. Later, he will take it back to the Rover and, with it attached to the geopallet, will use it as a vise to decouple the deep core sections.]

    120:24:37 Schmitt: Hope I took (geophone) number 1 in the right direction. (Pause) Yep. Okay, number 4 will be a little hard to pick up.

    120:24:48 Cernan: Boy, all these little craters are filled with glass. (Probably talking to the errant wrench) Come on back here. I've got to chase this thing over the lunar surface.

    120:24:57 Schmitt: I've seen glass covers.

    [He means "glass-covered crater bottoms". He is standing on the geophone 1 cable about 10 feet east of the geophone module, sighting across it to the western horizon.]

    120:25:00 Schmitt: (To himself) Oh, about out towards there, I guess. (Long Pause)

    [Jack picks up a flag and heads west, talking as he runs.]

    120:25:21 Schmitt: As I was saying, Bob, all these big blocks that I've looked at look like the gabbroic rock that I was talking about: possibly upwards of 50 percent plagioclase rather than 30 (percent) like the mare, but an intermediate gabbro of some kind. And one big block, there, had very-sharply defined, parallel parting planes. I think there is a foliation of minerals that parallel that parting, but I'll have to check it out.

    120:26:08 Parker: Okay. Copy that, Jack.

    120:26:13 Schmitt: Those parting planes (pause as he reaches the end of the geophone line) go through the whole boulder - (the boulder being) on the order of at least 3 meters long - in "outcrop". (Long Pause)


    -RODION
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    Its as simple as this and this goes out to both DOK and SKULLS .

    Dont ask for an INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION from us because we already gave you one a long time ago . The problem is , you guys cant take it and insisted that you are both right and we are wrong . When a dicussion occurs , there is no right or wrong but just mere ideas flowing freely .

    What is funny though , you dont want to search the answers yourselves in GOOGLE when in fact all your questions came from GOOGLE itself . Well backed by YOUTUBE .

    Ana ka simple lang jud na .... and please dont resort to saying na " Mao ra na maisulti nimo ? " Kung dili gani mo maka tubay ug and be on the same page talking about COMMONSENSE and PROPER ETIQUETTE in foruming , samot na when talking about sensitive matters . Murag korek kagawsan ninyo ana Dok and Skulls .

    By the way ... dont give us the bullcrap of professional titles . I dont want to hear or read about PHYSICIST , SCIENTIST , ASTRONAUT , CHEMICAL ENGINEER , INVENTOR etc ... when you guys cant bring out the CREDIBILITIES of these personalities .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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    since naka adto nmn diay ta sa moon
    walay plano ang U.S og next trip to the moon?
    just to cement this issues ^_^..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavisimao View Post
    splendid...brilliant...my 5 year old niece also have the same answer...lol


    and what is your direct answer to treize's query? don't deflect the question...


    why focus solely on Armstrong, do you have the hots for him? lol
    Celebrity status you want? Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story movie series is based with Aldrin...
    He is not the first man to the moon.
    I'm not interested with him.

    HE also is the better liar.

    But Armstrong is a good man caught in a situation where he almost has no choice.

    Grissom, who defied the powers that be, was killed along with 2 other astronauts or probably more..
    Armstrong would not want to end up on the same situation.
    So he just went along with it.
    In his speech he said, "the only bird that could talk are parrots.
    And they don't fly very well."
    That is another analogy for himself.
    Why would an astronaut compare himself to a parrot.
    Unless he meant it because he can not say anything of his own,
    but follows what others want him to say.

    This is how the the bilderberg group operates.
    This is why I created this thread.
    This thread is about the truth that is covered up by lies
    and whitewashed by the authority
    and mostly this is about murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    He is not the first man to the moon.
    I'm not interested with him.

    HE also is the better liar.

    But Armstrong is a good man caught in a situation where he almost has no choice.

    Grissom, who defied the powers that be, was killed along with 2 other astronauts or probably more..
    Armstrong would not want to end up on the same situation.
    So he just went along with it.
    In his speech he said, "the only bird that could talk are parrots.
    And they don't fly very well."
    That is another analogy for himself.
    Why would an astronaut compare himself to a parrot.
    Unless he meant it because he can not say anything of his own,
    but follows what others want him to say.

    This is how the the bilderberg group operates.
    This is why I created this thread.
    This thread is about the truth that is covered up by lies
    and whitewashed by the authority
    and mostly this is about murder.
    Cool story bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    The problem is , you guys cant take it and insisted that you are both right and we are wrong . When a dicussion occurs , there is no right or wrong but just mere ideas flowing freely .
    It's different when you weigh things out Springy.
    I came to conclude that it's fake. How about you?
    If your presentation of proof na moon landing is way more truthful and convincing, why would not I doubt that it's faked?

    susmaryaehusef

  9. #1319

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    I know this question is for SD, but you have to clarify certain points of your question before he can give a valid answer:

    a) 3 degrees from NW from what? The lunar horizon?

    b) What does the position of the earth have anything to do with the calculation of shadows, when all you need to calculate a shadow is a light source (i.e. sun) and a surface to cast that shadow upon (in this case the surface of the moon)? Ergo, the position of the earth can be disregarded in this problem.

    c) You people keep talking about angles of shadows when in fact, the more important (and measurable) data is the length of shadows. Because obviously the answer to the angle by which you are referring to would necessarily be the angle of the sun from the lunar horizon, and in this case, 3 degrees! Ergo, length of the shadow is the more critical value here.

    For more enlightenment: Clavius: Photo Analysis - terrain and shadow

    Clavius: Photo Analysis - different shadow lengths

    -RODION
    You didn't have to point out the obvious, I have a reason why my question was put up that way. Anyway even SD didn't provide a direct answer but his answer did a little satisfaction to that reason.

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    Funny thing is, I almost switched side after I stumbled on something very odd. So I did some research and did get satisfying answers to this oddity.

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