Vice Mayor Rodrigo Duterte flashes dirty finger at media critics

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Fear... even in rule of law..fear is very important..its the fear of the consequence or penalty in violating the law that control human action. Considering that law does not strike fear and its inability to control or curb crime must be a sign that there is failure in the law.

For example: why should criminals fear getting jailed? they get free food and free shelter.. yeah even free medicine... or just in case they dont want to get in jail,pilaraman sad ka tuig magstay ang mga hinampak sa kulungan...

the problem is lisod man gyud ipaklulong ang mgakriminal oi... gi-holdap ka.. pilaman imo ibayad para sa abogado? pila man ka bese muattend ug haring maayo unta kung walaka lain buhat.. yes thankful kaayo ang mga taw sa vigilante.. kay convenient man kaayo para sa mga taw... dili na nimo kahinanglan ug lawyer na bayranan.. dili na nimo kahinanglan magkuha ug mga lain ebidensiya para musamot kusog imo kaso....

yeah even the police wants the vigilantes.. they make their work alot easier.... many policemen get frustrated beacuse even if tehy want the person to be charge kapoyan man follow up ang mga biktima all for nothing ra ila trabaho...

mao ra na ako masulti...

rule of law is nice... if justice is not so expensive... bayad sa lawyer, filing fee, pa photocopy sa affidavit... masmahal pa ang pagsampa ug kaso kesa sa nakwat sa imoha...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Ha? Ang pasabut nimo ang manulis = na sa murder? mas grabe pa man ang penalty sa tulis kaysa murder.. murder life imprisonment ra, ang tulis execution na? Sus.. huna hunaa gud ninyo uy. Di pasabut nga kung di ganahan ang tao sa vigilante killing di nami maluoy sa biktima.

As i said before, regardless kung gawas priso na sila, fact is kung napriso na, they've done their time. guilty sila sauna, but by serving time they served the penalty for that guilt. Ang rason ngano gamay ang penalty sa tulisan is because the people, through Congress and the LAW decided that. Kusug kaau mo manaway sa kriminal pero kamo pud dili morespeto sa BALAUD. Ang balaud mismo ni ingon nga mao na ang penalty, dili mo mahimo mag buot-buot diha nga i death penalty kanang krimen nga dili death penalty sa balaud, otherwise you are pissing on the laws of our land bud and I won't tolerate that.

What about the crime of attacking a public officer of the court? The penalty for that is much more severe than the penalty for snatching, even robbery. Ayaw ko og ingna nga mas grabe ang panulis cos that shows gross ignorance of the law. Direct assault of public officer is one of the most serious crimes in this country, and yes it is much more serious than petty theft that you convince yourself deserves the death penalty.

uu grabe na gyud... kay kanang murder usahay naa man gyud an rason usa ka beses lang buhaton sa taw.... ingon pa nila naa gyud na rason ang taw kung mupatay.. pero kanang panulis ug sige panulis bisan pila na kabeses na priso... mura sad na addict sa panulis...ug kanang ingon ana maupaty na sad na kadugayn....

bay lawyer ka o lawstudent ka? aayo gyud na rule of law kay mawad-an ug trabaho ang lawyer kung naa vigilante... lol.. ) joke lang...

[monroy]

Fear... even in rule of law..fear is very important..its the fear of the consequence or penalty in violating the law that control human action. Considering that law does not strike fear and its inability to control or curb crime must be a sign that there is failure in the law.

For example: why should criminals fear getting jailed? they get free food and free shelter.. yeah even free medicine... or just in case they dont want to get in jail,pilaraman sad ka tuig magstay ang mga hinampak sa kulungan...

the problem is lisod man gyud ipaklulong ang mgakriminal oi... gi-holdap ka.. pilaman imo ibayad para sa abogado? pila man ka bese muattend ug haring maayo unta kung walaka lain buhat.. yes thankful kaayo ang mga taw sa vigilante.. kay convenient man kaayo para sa mga taw... dili na nimo kahinanglan ug lawyer na bayranan.. dili na nimo kahinanglan magkuha ug mga lain ebidensiya para musamot kusog imo kaso....

yeah even the police wants the vigilantes.. they make their work alot easier.... many policemen get frustrated beacuse even if tehy want the person to be charge kapoyan man follow up ang mga biktima all for nothing ra ila trabaho...

mao ra na ako masulti...

rule of law is nice... if justice is not so expensive... bayad sa lawyer, filing fee, pa photocopy sa affidavit... masmahal pa ang pagsampa ug kaso kesa sa nakwat sa imoha...

Unsa mahal.. this country only spends 1% of its budget on justice.. you call that mahal? Rule of law is so important, it forms the basis of all civilized society, thats why in successful countries they spend a huge amount of money on the justice system. Ours is dilapidated and can be considered "bargain basement" justice, thats why we have lack of law and order and there's no rule of law. Despite the vigilante killings in Davao, nobody can claim that it is the safest place in the world. There are many places that don't practice vigilante killings that are much safer than Davao. That in itself should tell you that not only is vigilante killing the wrong solution, even were it moderately acceptable, it is not the best solution.

Which is why I said, it takes a small mind to come up with an iron fist, but a brilliant mind to establish law and order within the bounds of the law. If Davao has problems, it is not because of a lack of vigilante killings, and if it has low crime rate, it does not mean that the underlying causes of crime have been removed, it has only been artificially suppressed but at what price? Now Davao can never get rid of the Dutertes, like I said is that what democracy is, the perpetuation of a single family in power?

I also said fear of law is important, but I also said fear of law is different from fear of personalities. Fear of law requires that the courts, its officers and our laws be respected. What you are talking about is not a failure of the law, but in its implementation. If you think the penalties are too light, then you should lobby Congress to increase the penalties instead of coming up with your own penalties.

Kung gi-hold up ka, you don't need to hire a lawyer, you can go directly to the prosecutor and have them file the case for you. That's what a lot of victims do and it happens everyday. You care about the policemen being frustrated about catching criminals but ain't it their job to be challenged in catching the criminal and proving it... They are complaining about doing their job properly and you are giving them excuses? Lol...

Its not for the policeman to decide if someone is guilty or not, they select the best suspect, gather evidence and offer it to court. Di man na sila Judge Dredd.. police, judge og executioner in one. Hahaha...

By the way do you know who is doing the killings in Davao? It's not the police. It's a death squad composed of mostly ex- NPA, those communist traitors to our country which Duterte used to belong to before he suddenly decided to change his ways. By supporting vigilante killings, you are supporting traitors who are enemies of the people

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Unsa mahal.. this country only spends 1% of its budget on justice.. you call that mahal? Rule of law is so important, it forms the basis of all civilized society, thats why in successful countries they spend a huge amount of money on the justice system. Ours is dilapidated and can be considered "bargain basement" justice, thats why we have lack of law and order and there's no rule of law. Despite the vigilante killings in Davao, nobody can claim that it is the safest place in the world. There are many places that don't practice vigilante killings that are much safer than Davao. That in itself should tell you that not only is vigilante killing the wrong solution, even were it moderately acceptable, it is not the best solution.

Which is why I said, it takes a small mind to come up with an iron fist, but a brilliant mind to establish law and order within the bounds of the law. If Davao has problems, it is not because of a lack of vigilante killings, and if it has low crime rate, it does not mean that the underlying causes of crime have been removed, it has only been artificially suppressed but at what price? Now Davao can never get rid of the Dutertes, like I said is that what democracy is, the perpetuation of a single family in power?

I also said fear of law is important, but I also said fear of law is different from fear of personalities. Fear of law requires that the courts, its officers and our laws be respected. What you are talking about is not a failure of the law, but in its implementation. If you think the penalties are too light, then you should lobby Congress to increase the penalties instead of coming up with your own penalties.

Kung gi-hold up ka, you don't need to hire a lawyer, you can go directly to the prosecutor and have them file the case for you. In fact that's what a lot of victims do. You care about the policemen being frustrated about catching criminals when in fact it is their job to be challenged in catching the criminal and proving it. They are complaining about doing their job properly and you are giving them excuses for it? Lol...

and as for duterte he is just doing what he can do... he dont have enough power to chnage the judiciary and enough inlfuence to chnage the government policy.... so tell me... is it wrong to act what is only within your limit.... if our justice system is working i don think there is place for duterte in davao or people loving his way of governing..

so i say before you say "rule of law" check the sa unsa man ang relaiites sa ato nasud...

you say the president should have political will its not like it all depends on the president... it have to come from the people...

there is no other solution to bad laws but election...

[monroy]

and as for duterte he is just doing what he can do... he dont have enough power to chnage the judiciary and enough inlfuence to chnage the government policy.... so tell me... is it wrong to act what is only within your limit.... if our justice system is working i don think there is place for duterte in davao or people loving his way of governing..

so i say before you say "rule of law" check the sa unsa man ang relaiites sa ato nasud...

you say the president should have political will its not like it all depends on the president... it have to come from the people...

there is no other solution to bad laws but election...

If he doesn't have the power to change the judiciary, he also doesn't have the power to go beyond the law. Is that even the job description of a mayor, to tolerate death squads or actively encourage them?

The realities sa atong nasud? Hahhaa.. the reality is there is a complete and total lack of respect for the law. That is why our country is screwed up

[yiennahs]

If he doesn't have the power to change the judiciary, he also doesn't have the power to go beyond the law. Is that even the job description of a mayor, to tolerate death squads or actively encourage them?

The realities sa atong nasud? Hahhaa.. the reality is there is a complete and total lack of respect for the law. That is why our country is screwed up

useless rana imong mga panuulti kay di na sila maminaw kay para nila, SAKTO and mayor

next time, they should make the law

[monroy]

Kapoy naman ning lalis. Kung nalipay jud mo sa gibuhat sa mga Duterte kai ganahan mo sa peace and order sa davao, I'll just leave you all with one thing to think about.

Do you know what country in the world has a near zero crime rate?

North Korea.

Peace and order should not be pursued at all costs. How far should we go to eliminate crime? That's the problem with short cuts.. it sounds good until you realize what you paid for it.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

If he doesn't have the power to change the judiciary, he also doesn't have the power to go beyond the law. Is that even the job description of a mayor, to tolerate death squads or actively encourage them?

The realities sa atong nasud? Hahhaa.. the reality is there is a complete and total lack of respect for the law. That is why our country is screwed up

please tell me what crime did mayor duterte committed? flashing dirty finger? i said it lacks decency but not enough para isuspend siya sa iya position...or itangtang siya... he is doing a good job in keepin davao, why should noynoy suspend him? tungod nagdirty finger siya? why the tv station should have cut that part...

about the vigilantes.. do you have enough evidence to connect the man with the vigilantes? yeah he said some statements but that is not actually enough to be use as evidence in court you know....encouraging and tolerating... sure file a case against the guy if you think he broke any law.... as for me... his statement can be interpret in alot of ways.... not unless you have strong evidence against the guy... i say you uphold the idea you so much embrace.... innocent until proven guilty.the point is you want rule of law but you cant actually point some law which the guy violated.... you only have hearsay evidence... you want rule of law.. you want bad ass official out we follow the law... file a case... that is how it works...

well those families of those who were killed by the "vigilantes" should file a case... afraid they could ask the supreme court for a change in venue....



no short cuts....

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Kapoy naman ning lalis. Kung nalipay jud mo sa gibuhat sa mga Duterte kai ganahan mo sa peace and order sa davao, I'll just leave you all with one thing to think about.

Do you know what country in the world has a near zero crime rate?

North Korea.

Peace and order should not be pursued at all costs. How far should we go to eliminate crime? That's the problem with short cuts.. it sounds good until you realize what you paid for it.

In north korea... kung ganhan ka mugawas sa ila nasud balhin sa south kay ila patyon imo mga parente.. apil na ka kung madakpan ka....

There there is OPPRESSION. There is absolute limitation of your rights.

In davao... there is no oppression.... there is limitation of rights only with regards to criminal prosecution.. kay insiquitorial man ila... lol...

oh... singapore kay mugamit sa ug parehas ingon ana ni duterte.... ila naa bitaw rule of law.. pero mas stringent ila law.... summary tanan... bisan about sa bubble gum.... bisan ang opposition... kay kuha-an ug kwarta...

if i may say dapat siguro i-institutionalize na alng ang vigilante... yeah we should make it legal.... summary execution nabasta ikatulo balik sa prisohan....

rule of law man gihapon na...

[noy pilo]

kining rule of law nindot kaayo ni.. kun butangan ug hait nga ngipon...