MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

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Ayaw iliko ang dalan. Ang punto nga gipahimug-atan diri mao ang iyaha giingon nga dili choice sa usa ka bayot nga mabayot siya. I don't live by the books, but I for one wanted to change and not be a homo anymore. But it isn't easy. I am not even sure if it is even possible.

Dili ba ikaw ang cge ug liko sa dalan ? Ka straight sa dalan nako ah . Its you who put a fine line between the HUMAN BEINGS and the ANIMALS through your RATIONAL REASONING . Its not me . Aya wihapak sa akoa na girl .

Please also be reminded that humans are also animals. Aw, sorry, wala man diay na sa bible. My bad.

What is the connection of the bible now in your issue about being RATIONAL ?

UU, living HAPPILY. Anyway, sa inyohang simbahan sila nagpakasal bay? Affected lageh ka?

Ako affected ? Lol ... BILLIONS of CATHOLICS are affected because they are using the rituals and ceremonoies of the SACRAMENT of MATRIMONY and that is regardless of asa sila na simbahan nagpakasal . Like I said , adto mo sa HUWES pakasal and we will all have a good time gyud .

Do you need to be 'like a PRINCE and a PRINCESS depicted in fairy tales who lived happily ever after' para mamahimong successful marriage? Labay na lang ang mga heterosexual marriage with all the 'lord's blessing' who are living in violence and abuse 'like bida and kontrabida in a teleserye'?

If dili na siya ma achieved sa heterosexual marriage , how much more sa HOMOEXUAL UNION ? When the man is really and actually meant for a woman , naa pa man gani imperfections . Much more sa MAN unto MAN and WOMAN unto WOMAN ? You tell me . Read the statements and digest it heartily instead of taking it literally .

Like I said , hatagi ko ug example of a close to perfect marriage sa 2 ka homosexuals . if mangayo ka ug close to perfect na marriage sa mga heterosexuals , maugma-an ta if ihatag nako mga examples sa mga kaila pa lang nako daan .

And is it male same s*x marriage? Ngano special mention ang toyab? Too much for discrimination.

Sorry na gud . Female to female man pod . I dont know . Seeing 2 girls making out basta both are girly yummy man . Ayaw lang na butch ha . Pero since when nahitabo na seeing 2 males getting it on yummy ? Considering we are being animalistic now and not thinking rationally . Dili ba makuha na nimo ang punto ? Sama sa sulti sa isa ... BERSATIN na pod ?

Morals and conscience which were copied from another religion? Okay. Mas motuo pa ko nga ang moral is molded in a society. Conscience? Isn't it relative?

Copied from another religion ? Again regardless of what religion it is , it does not dictate anything because these were guidelines even the ATHEIST observe that separates what is RIGHT and what is WRONG . Now tell me straight to the point . What makes HOMSEXUALITY right ? maski isa lang ka reason nimo mahatag . Its been always WRONG girl .
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Have you loved a person sir because you have a list of good reasons for falling?

YES . Even to the same s3x and that is out of thousands of reasons you can choose from except LUST .

How about you ? Be honest lang . When was the last time you fell in love because he got nice broad shoulders , flat abs , nice body tone , cute eyes , and that juicy long dong silvers down there ?

I would know because I am not HOMOPHOBIC , I know lots of HOMOSEXUALS in all kinds of sectors . Professionals , students , businessmen , etc . I even sometimes act more gay than them just to see them smile with being offended . These are all my basis because I know . Ive talk to them . Ive listen to them and most of all , ive known them not for who they are but for who they are .

[pinoy_09]

Bitaw seriously ... sa una ra ang luod hahahaha !! ON my behalf , I will support them and will respect them . But the moment magpakasal sila , murag dakong kalapasan na man gud na . Same sa analogy na RAPE bitaw . Its a very heinous crime but if ang victim gani is a child or a minor ... if naa pa laing word na mas grabe pa sa heinous crime , mao na siya .

Hmmmm... reply lang ko ani fafi ha. Mura'g layo raman gud ang analogy sa RAPE sa same *** marriage, if that's what you imply. Dili man nato matawag ug crime ang same *** marriage kay it's just a union between two same *** couple and it doesn't do any harm even to those people who are NOT involved.

The very people who teaches this are not people na ga pataka lang . Dili mga people na ga buot2 , dili mga people na kung asa lang kuhaa ang mga ideas nila . Syaro sa 1 BILLION and ONE kabuok , naay 1 lang kabuok maka sulti na " SAYOP MAN KA DRE , DILI MAN NA DAKONG KALAPASAN ANG PAGKABAYOT " . Naa ba ? Because if naa then ang kanang is aka tao BRIGHT gyud na siya kay gi prove niya wrong ang 1 billion kabuok .

Mura ra diay niingon ka ug a million people can't be wrong for voting BUSH. Obviously kung atong tan-awn ang presidency ni GEORGE BUSH, we would have wished the Americans voted for a Democrat. Same analogy applies. So yes, a billion people thinking the same thing CAN be wrong. Religion is a good example.

Honestly ? Ok ra ko and walay paki nila . Kay the moment nagpakasal ka sa HUWES , its a total different story man compared sa what is a SACRAMENT of the MATRIMONY . There is no SACREDNESS sa mga tao magpakasal sa HUWES . Its only for the paper works purposes lang in black and white .

That's still not enough ground for not legalizing same *** marriage in the Philippines. If the majority of the people support same *** marriage, then by all means, LEGALIZE it even if it means going against the teachings of the Church. Do we still have to remind ourselves on the separation between Church and state?

OT: I don't understand why the word "S3X" is censored in iStorya? Hehehe anything you can do about this fafi?

[erwin_rommel]

ang mga laki nga uyon ani kay pwerti ka dakong chance nga nagpa laki2x ra hehehe

[amingb]

Naay atong igsoon nga gay diri nangutan is Marriage about s_x ? .... kalooy pud nagpasabot lang jud nga wa siya kasabot sa iyaha identity ... naay ning post diri nagingon nga ug tambagan nato kita na hinoon dautan ...

Yes ang kaminyoon is about panglawas ... the purpose of it para dili ma immoral .. ang kaduha mag buhat ug liwat ... ug ang kaminyoon para sa Lalaki ug Babayi ....

Daki jud ni Problema kay ang SOP nga gihatag sa Ginoo usabon man sa mga Gay ...

[FAQ]

Just because you dont see the word CULT in their website doesnt make them one . Arent you good in using words for its right DEFINITION but out of context applications ? WHy dont you apply that . Just like the word BIBLE , asa nimo makita ang word na bible from the Book of Genesis all the way to the Book of Revelations ? Di gyud na nimo makita but you know that these are books of the bible .

Ingon bitaw ko nimo sud sa website nila aron naa ka idea dili man ka . Ani na lang , pangitaa na lang meaning sa CULT aron di lisod para nimo FAQ .

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know the word CULT . Care to explain as to why they're are CULT ?

You're trying to change the subject now , about the BIBLE not mentioned on the books ?! Loooooool . The word BIBLE came from the Latin word "biblia" , traced from Middle Latin and Late Latin and wasn't used the term by the Christians until AD 223 - obviousssssly AFTER THOSE COLLECTION OF BOOKS WERE WRITTEN AND PRINTED .

If you want to twist it , then you are basically saying that STRAIGHT PEOPLE are HUMAN BEINGS and HOMOSEXUALS are ANIMALS because of the basis of the being RATIONAL .

Ummmm no . I see what you're doing here , unless you're really completely dumb , you're trying to hijack the whole topic which is an indication you're losing footing on this debate . Let me rephrase it , I argued that there are animals who practice homosexuality and even bisexuality - obviously there are animals of the same type who aren't - therefore ATTRACTION has something to do with nature and not something that they choose to be since animals don't have rational thoughts . Whereas for human beings , we have rational thoughts , but most rely on religion that coercively dictates their way of life or what society expects us to do . Since humans have rational thoughts , they're free to choose to do whether he/she'll do what society or religion tells him to do or not to do .

Lol ... living happily ? RECOGNIZED by the LAW of the LAND . Yes ! So ngano di man sila magpakasal sa HUWES and sa SIMBAHAN man gyud sila ? This is where the technicalities and loopholes comes in . Naa pa kay pa MING DYNASTY , MING DYNASTY diha lol .

Gay & lesbian couples are actually married through COURT MARRIAGE - at least here . I don't know in the Philippines since the country is still under construction (I hope it's not under destruction) . If same s3x marriage is a sin then don't let a couple be married if a bride is pregnant or has kid(s) since pre-marital s3x is prohibited in the bible under no circumstances in the first place . Strangely enough , it's a common practice there . Pffffft !

I might be drunk but I am sure I am not on crack . If you can cite an example of a " COUPLE " composed of a two people of the same s3x who "shares common beliefs , bonding , love , honesty , and devotion towards each other" and up to this day are still like a PRINCE and a PRINCESS depicted in fairy tales who lived happily ever after , then I would agree with you . Basin ang sunod ani kasal2 sa mga toyab ha , ilahang i rally na pod na i legalized ang DIVORCE nila pod haha !

Like I said , hatagi ko ug example of a close to perfect marriage sa 2 ka homosexuals . if mangayo ka ug close to perfect na marriage sa mga heterosexuals , maugma-an ta if ihatag nako mga examples sa mga kaila pa lang nako daan .

There are married same s3x couples who are happy together and there are couples who are not - which is also the same thing for "straight" couples . Comparing same s3x to straight couples is like comparing apples and oranges . Both are fundamentally different . Not only you're deluded on your religion , I'm shocked to learn that you're also deluded on FAIRY TALES . Loooooool ...

Divorce is another topic .

SINS written in the bible ? Lol ... these SINS became SINS because it was mandated by the MORALES and CONSCIENCE that these are not RIGHT and it is plain WRONG .

So why Christians still cutting their hair , still wearing more than one cloth , masturbating , engage in pre-marital s3x , working on Sabbath Day (OMG , this is punishable by death!) if it's indeed "plain WRONG" ?!

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in gay marriage there is no procreation, just recreation.

[diday1019]

Kalooy pud sa mga bayot nga dili bastos dili immoral ... unfortunately struggling jud sila sa ilaha identity but isa rajud ang paagi aron ma control ang ilaha desire nga dili mao which is to have a Christian Life ... ug witness ko ana kay naa koy nakaauban nga bayot nga amoa Church Leader ... he is truely ang man of God ang a Family man ...

Naa siya Testimony nga lisod jud e Handle ang ilaha identity kay maibog jud siya ug lalaki but in the long run nga sige siya ug Study Bible ug ning abot ang time ni decision siya mahimong disciple ... everything has change sa iyaha kinabuhi ... nag minyo siya ug Babayi naa sila Anak ... grabi ang Blessing gihatag sa Ginoo niya ug sa iyaha family ... ug karon Missionary siya kauban sa iyaha wife ... Bisan asa sila sa Pilipinas to spread the Word of God dala ang ilaha mga anak .. nice pud ang Church kay ning support sa ilaha Financially ...

Ingon ana unta sundon sa mga luoy nato nga mga bayot na Igsoon ....

thumbs up ko ana! nice nice....

[ricoy69]

Kalooy pud sa mga bayot nga dili bastos dili immoral ... unfortunately struggling jud sila sa ilaha identity but isa rajud ang paagi aron ma control ang ilaha desire nga dili mao which is to have a Christian Life ... ug witness ko ana kay naa koy nakaauban nga bayot nga amoa Church Leader ... he is truely ang man of God ang a Family man ...

Naa siya Testimony nga lisod jud e Handle ang ilaha identity kay maibog jud siya ug lalaki but in the long run nga sige siya ug Study Bible ug ning abot ang time ni decision siya mahimong disciple ... everything has change sa iyaha kinabuhi ... nag minyo siya ug Babayi naa sila Anak ... grabi ang Blessing gihatag sa Ginoo niya ug sa iyaha family ... ug karon Missionary siya kauban sa iyaha wife ... Bisan asa sila sa Pilipinas to spread the Word of God dala ang ilaha mga anak .. nice pud ang Church kay ning support sa ilaha Financially ...

Ingon ana unta sundon sa mga luoy nato nga mga bayot na Igsoon ....

Why do I have this feeling nga that pastor and you, are just one. hahaha
Sounds like bitterness to me kay wala ka napakabuhagay sa imong pagkabayot.

Straight man, don't deeply criticize homo dude. They don't really care at all for they are confident in their own sexuality. I should know, coz I am one.
If, they want to be gays let them. It wont affect my masculinity. Unless If I am a homo still hiding in a shell I will be envy them.

All of your post here amingb, seems like to read like this : " I am Gay, and I tried(and still trying) to hide my self. I force myself to live in a straight world even if I dont really like it. Thats unfair! Other Gays, like should do that to!"

Wahahahaha

[ricoy69]

Ka luod anang mag rectumay oi ug mag bersatin pajud ... maau pa undangon nga Thread kay Luod kaau ...

This comment seems to be rooted from an experience. hahaha

How was it dude?

Sometimes, being defensive would make you offensive. The best way to hide your identity amingb is to control.

[amingb]

ang vocal na hinoon kaau sa mga binuhatan sa mga bayot mao na hinoon nabayot ... bali najud ning kalibotan ...

ang kining mga tawo nga protective kaau sa mga binuhatan sa mga bayot pa dude2x pa, unsa may kasulti ninyo sa mga tawong ingon ana ....

ang mga tawong ingon ana parihason sa panahon ni Moses and sa Communist Party ... aron wala nay mga bayot ...

Kay ang kanang mga tawong ganahan anang Parihas naay Tumoy nga mag minyo .. mao nay Klarong wa kasabot sa ilaha Identity ......