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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    So, how will you do it? Share the information here. Now is your time to prove that you are not at all CRAZY. Share here how you can go to the moon and back using a nuclear plant and a trip to Antarctica. I would love to hear it.
    I'll take some rocks there or find some lunar meteorites
    and expose it to radiation.
    And claim it came from the moon.
    from wikipedia:
    "Conspiracists argue that Marshall Space Flight Center Director Wernher von Braun's trip to Antarctica in 1967 (about two years before the Apollo 11 launch) was to gather lunar meteorites to be used as fake Moon rocks. Because von Braun was a former SS officer (though one who had been detained by the Gestapo),[134] the documentary film Did We Go? suggests[90] that he could have been pressured to agree to the conspiracy to protect himself from recriminations over his past. NASA said that von Braun’s mission was "to look into environmental and logistic factors that might relate to the planning of future space missions, and hardware".[135] NASA continues to send teams to work in Antarctica to mimic the conditions on other planets.

    It is now accepted by the scientific community that rocks have been blasted from both the Martian and Lunar surface during impact events, and that some of these have landed on the Earth as meteorites.[136][137] However, the first Antarctic lunar meteorite was found in 1979, and its lunar origin was not recognized until 1982.[138]"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    I'll take some rocks there or find some lunar meteorites
    and expose it to radiation.
    And claim it came from the moon.
    from wikipedia:
    "Conspiracists argue that Marshall Space Flight Center Director Wernher von Braun's trip to Antarctica in 1967 (about two years before the Apollo 11 launch) was to gather lunar meteorites to be used as fake Moon rocks. Because von Braun was a former SS officer (though one who had been detained by the Gestapo),[134] the documentary film Did We Go? suggests[90] that he could have been pressured to agree to the conspiracy to protect himself from recriminations over his past. NASA said that von Braun’s mission was "to look into environmental and logistic factors that might relate to the planning of future space missions, and hardware".[135] NASA continues to send teams to work in Antarctica to mimic the conditions on other planets.

    It is now accepted by the scientific community that rocks have been blasted from both the Martian and Lunar surface during impact events, and that some of these have landed on the Earth as meteorites.[136][137] However, the first Antarctic lunar meteorite was found in 1979, and its lunar origin was not recognized until 1982.[138]"
    So you're saying that the Soviet Union is in on the conspiracy, yes? The Soviet Union Space Program, arch-enemy of NASA, is actually part of the conspiracy?

    Why do I say this? It's because the Soviets actually made several unmanned sample-return missions in the 1970's:

    Luna 16 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Luna 20 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Luna 24 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Take note that there were NO other umanned sample return missions from the moon, even the US didn't have one.

    And when the Soviet communists analyzed their lunar soil samples taken from the Luna missions, they found out that these samples proved to be identical to samples they requested from the NASA laboratories for collaborative scientific work. Now the soil samples given by NASA to the Soviets can't obviously be faked, otherwise the Soviets could have easily detected the fakery and since they were RIVALS, the Soviet Union could have announced to the world that NASA indeed fake the manned lunar landings. But they DIDN'T, because they knew that the soil taken back by the Apollo astronauts were indeed authentic, and cannot have come from Antarctica (oxygen isotopes in lunar rocks are different when exposed to Earth's atmosphere).

    So now I believe Sour Doctor is implying, that these well known ENEMIES (Capitalist and Communist), who were the ones fighting the cold war (which was the reason why they were having the "moon race" in the first place) are in fact, in conspiracy. Ridiculous.



    ADDENDUM:

    Another good question is, does this so-called conspiracy still exists nowadays in the modern-day NASA? This is a good question because some might think, basin sa una ra tong conspiracy, during the Apollo missions, basin karon since mga batan-on naman ang mga tawo sa NASA, basin dili na ni sila mga co-conspirators...

    ...now we go to the LROC issue:

    Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera

    Launched on 18 June 2009, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) is a NASA robotic spacecraft currently orbiting the Moon on a low 50 km polar mapping orbit.

    Now the interesting thing is, LROC has been taking shots of the surface of the moon in magnificent detail, such as this:

    Oblique view of portion of Tycho Crater:


    So it also has the ability to find any man-made objects that landed on the moon. Like the Soviet Luna 20 pod:
    Soviet Union Lunar Sample Return Missions - LROC News System


    What about the Apollo missions? Are there any signs that it really landed where it should have? YES:
    Exploring the Apollo 17 Site - LROC News System


    In the center of that image is the descent stage of the Apollo 17 LM "Challenger". You can even detect signs that the regolith (lunar soil) around the site has been disturbed (by human activity, i.e. footmarks and rover tracks).

    Sigh, but of course, Soul_doctor and THE_SKULLS has an easy explanation--the entire LROC team is IN on the conspiracy--until this day, 42 years after the first Apollo landing, NASA employees are still conspiring, and let me predict, that the photo I posted above, they will claim is only a Photoshop image (and they will even claim it WITHOUT producing ANY proof why they believe it's faked, or if they provide any reasons at all, the reasoning will be skewed and forced just to confirm with their belief that the above-photo is a fake, or a product of fiction). Predictable kaayo ang mga conspiracy theorists.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 07-08-2011 at 05:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Kung kulang gani ang tubag.
    dawat na lang ka?
    Not necessarily pero tabla ra ni ingon ka na feeling pod niom KUMPLETO ang ANALYSIS nimo lol . Complete ba DOK ?

    kulang gani!
    Naunsa man ka? kinsa man na si GORYO?
    Kulang pa ang ANALYSIS nimo dok . Dili pa man ko satisfied gud . Si GORYO ? Obvious ba na ikaw na ? pa GORYO GORYO ba .

    minaliit nimo ang mga conspiracy theorist sir?
    They know what they are talking about. Kung wala pa. dugay ra na sila nahilom.
    Lol ... are you sure that they know what they are talking about ? in the first place , if you or say they KNOW what they are talking about , then dili na siya CONSPIRACY THEORY but FACTUAL EVENTS na siya unta . Funny ayo ang analysis nimo dok oi !

    They are far smarter and even better than you and me.
    How did you know ? You dont know me . They dont know you . Most of all , you dont know them . How did you end up with that comparison ?

    Some are respectable intellectuals who used to work for the NASA or from the NASA contractors like Rocketdyne..
    But they got fired because of their inquisitive nature.
    Nice analysis again . Thats yours to keep , ayaw lang mi ingna na mao gyud na because it remains like that . A CONSPIRACY THEORY .

    By the way ... I am not LOCKING the THREAD for RODSKY . If I do , sa una ra unta , ngano mag agad man ko ni RODSKY ? This is my SUB FORUM . This is not SCIENCE . You are in GENERAL CHIT CHAT .
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    im closer to cast away all my doubts that we did land on the moon..

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    No stars on the pictures and the video.
    Stars can pin point your actual location.
    If they showed you the stars then you probably would know that that scene is not actually on the moon.
    They have to cover the stars!
    In an environment where there is no atmosphere, in this case: "the moon"
    the stars should be MORE VISIBLE.
    balik-balik man ni imong mga pangutana mr. intelligent...hagbay ra man ni na de-bunk sukad pa page 1...

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    Then why would they resign 2 years after they've been from a successful mission?
    Explain that!

    If I was Armstrong, I'd be busy getting rich.
    Commercial ad endorsements.

    I could even sell my hair for a lot of money

    "6.)In May 2005 Armstrong had a strange battle with his barber who had sold his hair after cutting them and made money in the name of Armstrong."

    I can write book about my experience of the whole moon landing.

    I can sell posters of my photos and sign it.

    I'd be getting all the girls who wants to be with the man who just came back from the moon.

    But why would he go on hiding away from the press.
    He refused interviews.

    If I came from the moon, I'd make money just giving interviews.
    Why will he hide from the press?
    Don't you find it odd? or strange?
    And what about his speech?
    What did he mean by "TRUTH's PROTECTIVE LAYER"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavisimao View Post
    balik-balik man ni imong mga pangutana mr. intelligent...hagbay ra man ni na de-bunk sukad pa page 1...
    even your script is not original.
    comment comment. blah blah.

    DO something. and THINK!
    Stop being the kid in your avatar.
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 10:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Then why would they resign 2 years after they've been from a successful mission?
    Explain that!

    If I was Armstrong, I'd be busy getting rich.
    Commercial ad endorsements.

    I could even sell my hair for a lot of money

    "6.)In May 2005 Armstrong had a strange battle with his barber who had sold his hair after cutting them and made money in the name of Armstrong."

    I can write book about my experience of the whole moon landing.

    I can sell posters of my photos and sign it.

    I'd be getting all the girls who wants to be with the man who just came back from the moon.

    But why would he go on hiding away from the press.
    He refused interviews.

    If I came from the moon, I'd make money just giving interviews.
    Why will he hide from the press?
    Don't you find it odd? or strange?
    And what about his speech?
    What did he mean by "TRUTH's PROTECTIVE LAYER"?
    The problem is, you're not Armstrong and Armstrong is not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    The problem is, you're not Armstrong and Armstrong is not you.
    are xavimao and pinoy_09 sisters or something?
    i cant seem to have an intelligent discussion with these girls.

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    @ SOUL DOKTOR ...

    Why are you resulting to AD HOMINEMS now ? Cant take the HEAT ? That is not " COMMENT COMMENT " , that is an awareness of how you bring yourself in a discussion .

    What he posted makes sense . You are not ARMSTRONG and vice versa . Mag buot ba diay ka ? I thought SCIENTIST ka , BOY ABUNDA man diay ka .... chismoso .
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