***truth about jesus christ!

[wenlove24]

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We're always so adamant that we don't need God to do good, to love, to achieve peace, etc...but the core of all these arguments is, "persistence". How could we persist at all these virtues when we only rely on purely basic, natural human instinct? Someone hurts us, we hurt them. Someone hates us, then we also hate them. Thus creates a very disturbing thin line between order and chaos. Not so different from the animals right? Is that how we really want to perceive life? What then is the use of surviving within the realms of our physical capabilities when we're all gonna die in the end? I mean think about it. Is man's purpose just to merely live and die? Or is it that we are meant for something bigger?
A lot of people detest religion when the main object of it is not to get man to heaven but to get heaven unto him. Of course there are abuses within but it doesn't change its very nature which is to lead the way towards God's love. Just like the bible. We can hate it or even deny its existence but it still won't change its reality.
Now going back to the thread subject, the truth about Jesus Christ can be found in the bible. I encourage you all to get to know Him more before you judge for yourselves. In my own life, I've had my share of bitterness, disappointments and struggles but I always find solace in the God-Man who taught me these marvelous things:
*love my enemies
*love my neighbor as myself
*turn the left cheek when the other is slapped
*"For if the world hates you, remember that it Hated me first."
*forgive seventy times seven times
*"Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life?"

I don't know about you but I don't want to die. I dread it! So it got me thinking how could one Being come into the world knowing that He would just die? Then I found meaning in His dying, that we will someday be born into eternal life. I don't know a much more greater LoVe than that. I'd be lying if I said I'm not afraid to go to hell but then I realized that hell is a state of the soul. One could still be walking and breathing here on earth and he's already experiencing hell by the choices he makes, the utter chaos of his mind and the deliberate misuse and abuse of his freedom! Souls go to hell bec. they want to be there and they do not want to get out. I dread that more than the physical dying itself!

[tokidoki]

So where do Atheist based their Morality? is it absolute?

morality has always been subjective bro. It's not isolated to religion alone.

it depends on the culture and beliefs as it always have been. (Again, do not treat as if your church is the center of all humanity)

Example: In japan, rampant ang suicide because part na sa ilang ancient culture that suicide is an "honorable" gesture. Thus, the harakiri (ambot unsay spelling).

But to Christianity, death by your own hand is a sin and you're sent to hell for that.

If you're really open minded you will respect that belief and not condemn it based on your OWN beliefs. In short, walay but-anay.

[bearish]

So where do Atheist based their Morality? is it absolute?

so now we will talk about morality of atheists vs morality of the theists? so we move on to here without resolving if god really exists or not. so you are now amenable to the idea that god does not exists, but you are just skeptical as to how morality functions around the atheists?

For me, morality is really subjective. what you sow is what you reap. what you feel is more probably what you will do. who can see the immoral act of a person is another person and his judgement of immorality lies on his own way of thinking and his set of standards. it might be immoral to him but not to you because he does not know about your feelings.

morality subject is another topic to discuss and is too broad for here. you may create another thread for it.

[bearish]

Someone hurts us, we hurt them. Someone hates us, then we also hate them. Thus creates a very disturbing thin line between order and chaos.

what if someone hurts us because they knew we can not hurt them?
someone hates us because they knew we can not hate them.

if someone knew that we will fight back if being provoke, they will have second thought of doing what's in their mind. thus creating peace and order. ingon pa nila, way manglupig ug way magpalupig.

sa muslim pa, kung kinabuhi ang gi utang, kinabuhi sad ang bayad.

[butong101]

God exists in our minds, some in their hearts, some in their thoughts, some in their beliefs, some by practice..

the fact is, Jesus Christ is true and he is not a myth..
historical evidences supports it,
there is yet a decent Historian who would claim with sufficient historical proof that Jesus Christ never existed..

The truth about Jesus Christ is only limited to the 4 books, the gospel itself.

[wenlove24]

what if someone hurts us because they knew we can not hurt them?
someone hates us because they knew we can not hate them.

if someone knew that we will fight back if being provoke, they will have second thought of doing what's in their mind. thus creating peace and order. ingon pa nila, way manglupig ug way magpalupig.

sa muslim pa, kung kinabuhi ang gi utang, kinabuhi sad ang bayad.

Sorry ha but I thought I made my point when I said basic human instinct. If someone knew that their enemy is gonna fight back, I don't think it'll stop them from doing what their instinct tells them to. It's not just in the movies. It happens in real life too. Just bec. you know that that person will retaliate doesn't mean you're gonna cease from doing harm esp. if that is your intention. Way manglupig kung way magpalupig is exactly the main theme of pure, basic human instinct. This will never create peace and order.
And as for the 'eye for an eye' concept, He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. The bitterest end....

"To err is human but to forgive is divine."

[butong101]

is Kurt Cobain an atheist? A lot of religious people commit suicides too. This kind of thing can not be attributed to the view of being religious or not. So, that spiritual death you are introducing is not justifiable.

Kurt Cobain example was taken out of context..
i made that to clarify what i meant w/ my term "spirituality"
for me the spirituality of a being is the soul that is not religious but may choose so,
the soul that i am referring to are the unseen forces, abstract entity that keeps us living, e.g. motivations, feelings, anger, etc...

and im not saying Kurt Cobain is atheist, im only using him as an example to support my claim that the possible effect of being an atheist is spiritual death..
when you stop believing in a God, there will be no room for hope, and in times of feeling void no matter how successful you are, its like death itself.

[SioDenz]

morality has always been subjective bro. It's not isolated to religion alone.

it depends on the culture and beliefs as it always have been. (Again, do not treat as if your church is the center of all humanity)

Example: In japan, rampant ang suicide because part na sa ilang ancient culture that suicide is an "honorable" gesture. Thus, the harakiri (ambot unsay spelling).

But to Christianity, death by your own hand is a sin and you're sent to hell for that.

If you're really open minded you will respect that belief and not condemn it based on your OWN beliefs. In short, walay but-anay.

Based on Culture that believed in Supreme being. its different from Atheism. Atheism is More on 1 person = 1 set of his own Morality based on what he think.

Theist is more on Supreme being = Absolute Morality = Followed by people who believed in God.

[SioDenz]

what if someone hurts us because they knew we can not hurt them?
someone hates us because they knew we can not hate them.

if someone knew that we will fight back if being provoke, they will have second thought of doing what's in their mind. thus creating peace and order. ingon pa nila, way manglupig ug way magpalupig.

sa muslim pa, kung kinabuhi ang gi utang, kinabuhi sad ang bayad.

If there is another Atheist that thinks otherwise, kinsay sakto ninyu?

[florida.blanca]

So where do Atheist based their Morality? is it absolute?

morality is based depending on the approval of the majority

if people know it's wrong to kill then it's immoral, coz majority of the people would never agree that killing a person is moral