***truth about jesus christ!

[bearish]

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The problem of Atheism, what is Good or Bad is relative and is based on the individuals way of thinking.

this is kind of irrelevant argument. you are like giving a notion that theists, believe in a god just for the sake of universal morality. In this case, you are making your god just as a tool for it. you are not really asserting your point in contrast with the point of the atheists.

[bearish]

Who made the Universe? It did not appear right away without someone creating it. Would you say Big Bang? Then who created the Big Bang?

There must be a God who created all of this.

No matter what Religion you believe in, there always a Mention of a Creator of all of this.

Atheist don't believe in God. Maybe soon you will find the answer to all of this.

I'm not that Religious but I believe in God.

Just a thought....

you are igniting a never ending question. if I would ask also, who created god? for sure you will answer that he is not created and he is not bound by space and time. what a scapegoat answer. how can you defend that?

[butong101]

weh, di nga?

lemme ask you, who created the spiritual thingy?

it's religion! so no matter how you deny it, religion is still inclined

perhaps you don't get my point..
lemme give some example so as to make things a little bit clear..
some individual who has been very successful in their career have at some point feels very empty.. what could have been its reasons?
That unseen force, that abstract entity, which cause every individual to feel is what i have referred to as the "spirituality", "soul", etc.. etc..

Why would Kurt Cobain commit suicide? he has everything, we can all speculate, but one thing is for sure.. At some point he feels emptiness.. and i believed, those who do not have a god will feel the same with Kurt Cobain for God, whoever he is, if he exists or not, gives his believer the refuge of hope, when things are impossible..

[butong101]

this is kind of irrelevant argument. you are like giving a notion that theists, believe in a god just for the sake of universal morality. In this case, you are making your god just as a tool for it. you are not really asserting your point in contrast with the point of the atheists.

1.) yes God is created, for now i believed it that way
2.) the teachings of Christ has always been a very good source of morality
3.) yes, for me God is created as a tool

The atheist doesnt believed in God's existence. This is not an irrelevant argument for the theist, for how come an individual use something who doesnot exists, even just in their minds. This goes to say, that theist believes in god's existence. This is in ways a valid contrast to the points of the atheist..

[bearish]

1.) yes God is created, for now i believed it that way
2.) the teachings of Christ has always been a very good source of morality
3.) yes, for me God is created as a tool

The atheist doesnt believed in God's existence. This is not an irrelevant argument for the theist, for how come an individual use something who doesnot exists, even just in their minds. This goes to say, that theist believes in god's existence. This is in ways a valid contrast to the points of the atheist..

If so, then the relevant argument is to assert or defend your stand that god exists. we don't have to side step to morality.

[butong101]

If so, then the relevant argument is to assert or defend your stand that god exists. we don't have to side step to morality.

That was numbered precisely to emphasized that those were not dependent to each other. That numbered items are my beliefs. They may be related but not dependent, as for me.

Im not bringing morality cz sometimes i find myself confused about it...

Im just giving an observation in response to your response that what you considered irrelevant is in several ways relevant..

[bearish]

perhaps you don't get my point..
lemme give some example so as to make things a little bit clear..
some individual who has been very successful in their career have at some point feels very empty.. what could have been its reasons?
That unseen force, that abstract entity, which cause every individual to feel is what i have referred to as the "spirituality", "soul", etc.. etc..

Why would Kurt Cobain commit suicide? he has everything, we can all speculate, but one thing is for sure.. At some point he feels emptiness.. and i believed, those who do not have a god will feel the same with Kurt Cobain for God, whoever he is, if he exists or not, gives his believer the refuge of hope, when things are impossible..

is Kurt Cobain an atheist? A lot of religious people commit suicides too. This kind of thing can not be attributed to the view of being religious or not. So, that spiritual death you are introducing is not justifiable.

[bearish]

That was numbered precisely to emphasized that those were not dependent to each other. That numbered items are my beliefs. They may be related but not dependent, as for me.

Im not bringing morality cz sometimes i find myself confused about it...

Im just giving an observation in response to your response that what you considered irrelevant is in several ways relevant..

The main point of the post that I was responding was purely morality. He is just concerned about good and bad to be subjective to individuals own way of thinking. While being an atheist is not bound by his claims. We can share the same set of morality but not necessarily the same thought about the existence of a god. That's why I see it as irrelevant.

[SioDenz]

this is kind of irrelevant argument. you are like giving a notion that theists, believe in a god just for the sake of universal morality. In this case, you are making your god just as a tool for it. you are not really asserting your point in contrast with the point of the atheists.

You dont understand the idea.

If ikaw nga Atheist nagtuo nga ang pagpatay sa isa ka kriminal nga Tawo sala, nya ang isa ka Atheist nagtuo nga maayu nlang patyon ang isa ka tawo nga kriminal. Kinsa sakto ninyung duha? then Why?

[SioDenz]

The main point of the post that I was responding was purely morality. He is just concerned about good and bad to be subjective to individuals own way of thinking. While being an atheist is not bound by his claims. We can share the same set of morality but not necessarily the same thought about the existence of a god. That's why I see it as irrelevant.

So where do Atheist based their Morality? is it absolute?