Questions for the Atheists

[nowpress*]

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your analogy is not impressive. i don't even think it is valid. you are basically using the watchmaker analogy, again, if we use that analogy, the question arises, who created the creator? gets bay? you can basically conclude nga naay inventor/maker sa usa ka nindot nga butang, though wala ka kita giunsa paghimo but by observation by watching tv/movie, ads, word of the mouth and what nots, it is safe to arrive to that conclusion. but can you use the same strategy to conclude that a god exist? i don't think so.

im not here to impress you bai.

why not? Logic can accept that.

now for the question who created the watchmaker? this is a faulty analogy sir. you cannot compare God to a watchmaker. God is eternal, He is the beginning and the end. He is the uncaused cause for infinite regression is impossible. there have to be a first cause.

[KlaytoN]

Im a Christian: Evangelical ,Non-cessationist.

Thanks sa reply..

[KlaytoN]

..continuation from Post #1076

People here may have accused me of plagiarism but this won't stop me from spreading the voice of the scientific community. I will be posting a series of statements or scientific opinion as given by scientific bodies of international standing in response to the "intelligent design" agenda.

American Astronomical Society

--2005 letter sent to President George W. Bush by society President, Dr. Robert P. Kirshner. "'Intelligent design' isn’t even part of science – it is a religious idea that doesn’t have a place in the science curriculum."

Source: http://www.aas.org/education/pressreleases/maran_PR.pdf

--2005 statement on the Teaching of Evolution: ""Intelligent Design" fails to meet the basic definition of a scientific idea: its proponents do not present testable hypotheses and do not provide evidence for their views that can be verified or duplicated by subsequent researchers. Since "Intelligent Design" is not science, it does not belong in the science curriculum of the nation’s primary and secondary schools."

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/200612060...hevolution.pdf

I'm copy pasting only the important parts of the statement only. This is to prevent accusations of plagiarism kuno from believers who do anything just to discredit science. I want istoryans to read the source page to fully understand the issue.

The scientific community has spoken. So it's up to you to decide whom to believe: The ID or Creationism proponents like Kent Hovind or Michael Behe? or the Scientific Community as a whole? You be the judge. End of debate.

[nowpress*]

..continuation from Post #1076

People here may have accused me of plagiarism but this won't stop me from spreading the voice of the scientific community. I will be posting a series of statements or scientific opinion as given by scientific bodies of international standing in response to the "intelligent design" agenda.

American Astronomical Society

--2005 letter sent to President George W. Bush by society President, Dr. Robert P. Kirshner. "'Intelligent design' isn’t even part of science – it is a religious idea that doesn’t have a place in the science curriculum."

Source: http://www.aas.org/education/pressreleases/maran_PR.pdf

--2005 statement on the Teaching of Evolution: ""Intelligent Design" fails to meet the basic definition of a scientific idea: its proponents do not present testable hypotheses and do not provide evidence for their views that can be verified or duplicated by subsequent researchers. Since "Intelligent Design" is not science, it does not belong in the science curriculum of the nation’s primary and secondary schools."

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/200612060...hevolution.pdf

I'm copy pasting only the important parts of the statement only. This is to prevent accusations of plagiarism kuno from believers who do anything just to discredit science. I want istoryans to read the source page to fully understand the issue.

The scientific community has spoken. So it's up to you to decide whom to believe: The ID or Creationism proponents like Kent Hovind or Michael Behe? or the Scientific Community as a whole? You be the judge. End of debate.

bai ang theistic worldview dili madawat sa Science so anything nga involve ang Ginoo ila jud ng kontrahan. mao ng ayaw na lang kahibolong kong mo kontra sila sa I.D, ang ang naman pod ilang dawaton pildi na sila kong dawaton nila.

puede man sila mo sulti ana ba no one is stopping them but when it comes to evidence pildi sila. bahalag pila pa na ka pages ilang depensa basta when it comes to evidence wa jud sila.

dumb=chemicals nahimong philosopher? lisod tohoan walay logic. kini hinoo...Intelligent Design requires Intelligent Creator.

[SioDenz]

bai ang theistic worldview dili madawat sa Science so anything nga involve ang Ginoo ila jud ng kontrahan. mao ng ayaw na lang kahibolong kong mo kontra sila sa I.D, ang ang naman pod ilang dawaton pildi na sila kong dawaton nila.

puede man sila mo sulti ana ba no one is stopping them but when it comes to evidence pildi sila. bahalag pila pa na ka pages ilang depensa basta when it comes to evidence wa jud sila.

dumb=chemicals nahimong philosopher? lisod tohoan walay logic. kini hinoo...Intelligent Design requires Intelligent Creator.

And to think of it, Some Great Scientist Believed in Intelligent design and Even God. So therefore the Scientific Community is Not absolute about their Laws kay dili man sila tanan ni Agree.

[nowpress*]

And to think of it, Some Great Scientist Believed in Intelligent design and Even God. So therefore the Scientific Community is Not absolute about their Laws kay dili man sila tanan ni Agree.

exactly!

[nowpress*]

Atheism is Declining all over the world!

2 reasons posited for this...

1. atheism is losing its scientific underpinnings

2. like religion, atheism has produced its own share of lunatics, frauds, and psychopaths (Siemon-Netto, 2005)


Siemon-Netto, Uwe (2005), “Science, ‘Frauds’ Trigger a Decline in Atheism,” Washington Times, March 4, [On-line], URL: Science, 'frauds' trigger a decline in atheism - Washington Times.

[kit_cebu]

Pwede nimo i-share ang logical proof nga tinuod nga invalid ang existence of GOD unless proven otherwise? Unsa ma'y basis nimo ana nga statement?

look around you, champ.....

couldn't he have done something to make our lives better?
how can he stand people suffering?
does he really have to wait for another "Moses" to lead us?

[kit_cebu]

Atheism is Declining all over the world!

if you consider the people that goes to mass every Sunday that don't listen to the gospel or just stay outside the church or kanang minaw/lusot pikas dunggan-type of church-goer as atheists, then atheists outnumber the people INSIDE the church....


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[SioDenz]

Atheism is Declining all over the world!

Because they realize that they are Really Anti-GOD in real sense because what they believe and argue is Not in accordance with the definition of True Atheism.