An Open Letter to God

[vipvip68]

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i think kaning verse imo gipakita para ni sa mga taw sa Israel saona and not to
christians today

exodus 31:17
17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’”

So it was okay to kill people who worked in the sabbath Sauna but it's not anymore okay now?

What does that say about "Absolute Morality"?

[SioDenz]

I just follow the law... not as basis for my belief... but because it is what is socially/morally accepted.

This and of course the golden rule.

Most of the Laws in our constitution is created and is based on the Concept that there is a God, most of the Laws in our country were Based on the Laws of the Bible/Theist. Do you agree that your following the Law based on the concept of God?

By the way, Bible also teach about the Golden rule

How do you explain that of the 4% of atheists in the world, only 0.04% of inmates in the prison system are atheist?
So an Atheist is less likely to kill you than a theist.

But if your a Jew in Europe during WWII, 66% chance you will be killed by an Atheist.

I'm open to God's existence or non-existence.... and frankly, it doesn't matter and bother me..
what does that make me?

can I say that you're Confuse on what to believe?

[SioDenz]

I take it that you are a Christian then? or what Catholics refer to as "protestants" although I find it a derogatory term as I have a lot of Christian friends.


From my understanding, the requirement is that for Myself to be saved I have to accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior right?

I talked to my friend about this and we had a difference of opinion on this point:


Person A does not believe in God but does good things all his life.

Person B believes in God but does bad things all his life.

Now, between the two, who would most likely go to heaven?

My Christian friend said it was Person B while I believe it would be Person A.


Does it matter so much what we believe as to what we do on this earth?

I would like to hear other people's opinion on this also on how they perceive God's judgement.

The Requirement is to Believe in God and follow what he said and then HE will Judge you if you can enter heaven or Not - its that simple. You see, the purpose of the word of God in the Bible is for us to Live here on earth according to his will, so meaning for us to follow and be a witness.

The Bible was Not Given to us so that we can Judge other people if they will be saved or Not.

[kajrot1]

Were not talking about our own lives but the lives of the people we can help...

Selfish sad kaayo and self serving ra kaayo to think only of ourselves....


Bahala na na' imong God nako basta I will just help other people and I find it a waste of time nga mu kiss up niya through worship. I'll just let my actions do the talking.... for me they mean more than any form of worship.

in what way will you help other people, by telling them they're wrong? do you think that can help??

[vipvip68]

Most of the Laws in our constitution is created and is based on the Concept that there is a God, most of the Laws in our country were Based on the Laws of the Bible/Theist. Do you agree that your following the Law based on the concept of God?

By the way, Bible also teach about the Golden rule

I beg to disagree, most of our laws were based on laws that existed prior to the bible. Example is the Hammurabi Code and many other laws that existed that predate Christianity.

But if your a Jew in Europe during WWII, 66% chance you will be killed by an Atheist.

Was it really Atheism per se that caused people to kill the jews or was it the Nazi movement of hitler?

I think you got your facts twisted up big time. Hitler was against Jews and Commuists (which were Atheists) and the Church did not condemn this as Germany was largely a Catholic state and the Church's enemies were Jews and Atheists / Communists.

Adolf Hitler was baptized in a Catholic Church in 1889 and was never excommunicated or in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church. Hitler frequently referred to God and Christianity in his various speeches and writings. In one 1933 speech, he said that "To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk." In another he said: "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."

Hitler Was an Atheist Who Killed Millions in the Name of Atheism, Secularism? Was the Nazi Party Based on an Atheist, Anti-Christian Ideology?

[vipvip68]

The Requirement is to Believe in God and follow what he said and then HE will Judge you if you can enter heaven or Not - its that simple. You see, the purpose of the word of God in the Bible is for us to Live here on earth according to his will, so meaning for us to follow and be a witness.

The Bible was Not Given to us so that we can Judge other people if they will be saved or Not.

So based on your understanding...

Who is more likely to go to Heaven?

Person A who does not believe in God but does good all his life ?

or

Person B who believes in God but does bad things all his life?



It's a simple choice between A or B

I'm clearly choosing A... what about you?

[kajrot1]

So it was okay to kill people who worked in the sabbath Sauna but it's not anymore okay now?

What does that say about "Absolute Morality"?

then give me a passage or a verse na naay gipatay ato?
kay d man ko sweto og bible basin matabangan ko nmo?

[vipvip68]

in what way will you help other people, by telling them they're wrong? do you think that can help??

By telling them to stop wasting their time with religion and telling them that they each have the power to shape their future and to uplift their lives.

By telling them that in the end, it matters not whether you believe or not in one religion or another or whose religion is right or wrong... what matters is what you do with your Life.

To tell them that If God did exist, he will judge you not on your worshiping or believing in him but on your actions towards your fellow man.


If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't be any religious conflict. and humanity would be more progressive.

[SioDenz]

I beg to disagree, most of our laws were based on laws that existed prior to the bible. Example is the Hammurabi Code and many other laws that existed that predate Christianity.

First line of the Philippine Constitution Preamble:
"We, the sovereign Filipino people, imploring the aid of Almighty God,..."

Ingun ka musunod ka sa balaod sa isa ka nasud so kini di lang na nimu apilon pag sunod kay di man ka mutoo ug Ginoo, right?

Was it really Atheism per se that caused people to kill the jews or was it the Nazi movement of hitler?

I think you got your facts twisted up big time. Hitler was against Jews and Commuists (which were Atheists) and the Church did not condemn this as Germany was largely a Catholic state and the Church's enemies were Jews and Atheists / Communists.

Hitler Was an Atheist Who Killed Millions in the Name of Atheism, Secularism? Was the Nazi Party Based on an Atheist, Anti-Christian Ideology?

Hitler is like you, Baptized as a Catholic but don't believe in God. So your saying You're Not an Atheist? Hitler killed millions because he doesn't believe in God anymore.

So how about Stalin and Lenin that killed millions of people also, di sad to sila Atheist?

[vipvip68]

First line of the Philippine Constitution Preamble:
"We, the sovereign Filipino people, imploring the aid of Almighty God,..."

Ingun ka musunod ka sa balaod sa isa ka nasud so kini di lang na nimu apilon pag sunod kay di man ka mutoo ug Ginoo, right?

That simply shows religion's influence in our society at the time of the drafting of the constitution...

You're jumping the argument here because your premise was religion predates and is the foundation of our laws... I gave you the reply that the Hammurabi Code predates the founding of Christianity and most of the laws in the Hammurabi code and those before it were adopted by Christianity later on....

Hitler is like you, Baptized as a Catholic but don't believe in God. So your saying You're Not an Atheist? Hitler killed millions because he doesn't believe in God anymore.

"The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Manheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 562.

Is the statement above something an atheist would say?
Tell me, what did the Catholic Church do against Hitler and the Nazi movement?

So how about Stalin and Lenin that killed millions of people also, di sad to sila Atheist?

They may have killed people but they didn't kill them in the name of "Atheism". The atrocities had more to do with political and cultural differences than "Atheism" per se.

This is a far cry from the inquisition and crusades which actually Kill people In God's name.