An Open Letter to God

[Shamash]

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A person can live a perfectly moral and good life without relying on religion. In fact, most developed countries where religion plays a lesser role are examples of this.

Very true. Religion plays a role somehow, and that's what's hindering our development as a country.

[vipvip68]

Wrong Concept, the purpose of Atheist is to remove the Concept of an Absolute God and thus remove the concept of absolute Morality. Morality for Atheist belief is Relative on each individuals own thinking.

You said about 'can live a perfectly Moral life', my question to you is in the concept of Atheism on which morality is Relative, what is a perfect morality that we will follow? based on what guidelines?

Religious morality is highly subjective as well.. .just read your history books.

Do I even need to mention the inquisition, the crusades etc?

There is no such thing as absolute morality because it is largely based on societal influences... again.. read your history.


The only constant in this world is change. THat's what the papal encyclicals are for... aren't you supposed to apply the teachings to the "sign of the times"...

Religion has to keep changing itself in order for it to be relevant to society.


Currently, what moral issue is religion faced with? Probably Homosexuality and Gay Rights.

Though we are still silently condemning Gay people here in the Philippines, other countries have moved on and have given then more rights.

[SioDenz]

So what is the difference between an Atheist who spends his life helping people through charities and foundations and a theist who does the same?

Given the act above, will the non-belief in God make the Atheist less of a person in your eyes?

Confused...
We are talking about the existence of God not the Acts of the Believers.
We are talking about the Concept of Atheism and Not the Atheists.

Whats the difference between the two person above? only God Knows. only God can see what we think and what we feel.

[nowpress*]

Confused...
We are talking about the existence of God not the Acts of the Believers.
We are talking about the Concept of Atheism and Not the Atheists.

Whats the difference between the two person above? only God Knows. only God can see what we think and what we feel.

O I like this.

[SioDenz]

Religious morality is highly subjective as well.. .just read your history books.

Do I even need to mention the inquisition, the crusades etc?

There is no such thing as absolute morality because it is largely based on societal influences... again.. read your history.


The only constant in this world is change. THat's what the papal encyclicals are for... aren't you supposed to apply the teachings to the "sign of the times"...

Religion has to keep changing itself in order for it to be relevant to society.


Currently, what moral issue is religion faced with? Probably Homosexuality and Gay Rights.

Though we are still silently condemning Gay people here in the Philippines, other countries have moved on and have given then more rights.

We are talking about effects of Absolute morality followed by Theist and its effect compare to Relative morality followed by Atheist.

Absolute morality will Not Change tru time because its absolute. Its the Law given by absolute being which is God and should be followed by his believers. If you change the basis of morality according to the sign of times then its already a Relative basis of Morality which is the concept of Atheism.

Wala lagi ta nag lalis sa ACTS sa mga believers, ang Concept atung gi discuss diri.

[vipvip68]

All you said here are merely your own theories and interpretations which Don't have any Physical or Scientific Proof. Just because you have your answer presented Doesn't make it Scientifically or Physically TRUE. Therefore what you said here are the same BS stories as the Theist stories you are arguing with.

If you Cling on basing your belief on Science, Then you should present Scientific Facts and Physical Evidence when you argue because WALA Kay kalahian sa Mga Theist if mugamit ra diay ka ug mga Theories ug personal interpretations.

Why don't you do your research on Religiosity vs Per Capita GDP or Religiosity vs. IQ...

better back read the thread nalang sad.

I've posted it several times already and I don't want to keep on repeating myself...

The figures I gave are based on actual surveys and statistics.

[SioDenz]

Very true. Religion plays a role somehow, and that's what's hindering our development as a country.

We are talking about being Good Not being Rich.

[vipvip68]

Confused...
We are talking about the existence of God not the Acts of the Believers.
We are talking about the Concept of Atheism and Not the Atheists.

Whats the difference between the two person above? only God Knows. only God can see what we think and what we feel.

Many religious people feel that they NEED religion in order for them to do good...

Are they not capable of doing good without religion ?

Atheists are proving that it is possible.

[vipvip68]

We are talking about being Good Not being Rich.

Being good and being rich don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Infact, being rich allows you top help more people like what philanthrophists are doing.

Also, religion does not own the exclusive rights to a person living a good life.

[nowpress*]

Many religious people feel that they NEED religion in order for them to do good...

Are they not capable of doing good without religion ?

Atheists are proving that it is possible.

slide ko ha.

of course they can. pero kasagarang religious people sir motoo sila sa Religion because they want to honor God and not of some feeling of wanting to be good. Some they asked God for help para mabootan sila just like how some athiests read books to help them cope up stress and relationships.