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  1. #291

    Default Re: An Open Letter to God


    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    I guess, they find it absurd that people place so much stock on a book yet they just take the validity and accuracy of that book on faith.

    History has shown how the bible was formed and the circumstances surrounding it. It is not some mystical event but just a bunch of people collating different other books and voting en committee on what to put in or out.

    The source of the bible being God is a pretty hard sell to people who are students of history and are familiar with the formation of the bible books.

    To be honest. I've only read like 5% of the bible.
    Before i ever read anything from the bible, i already believed in god.

  2. #292

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    We did Not say that we are better than you are because we are the same humans and have the same Brain. But Theist believe in GOD, GOD which is WAY BETTER THAN WE ARE. Mao nay wa ninyu nasabti.

    WE don't give explanation based on what we think, We give our explanation based on what we know from the Holy Books that we believe came come the Absolute and powerful God.

    If ang mga Theist nag based palang entirely if unsa maabot sa ilang huna huna, tanan tawo puro na Athiest guro.
    It's the same thing. Theists feel that since they believe is something which is better than everyone, that would in turn elevate their status and make them in turn better than everyone else.

    I know your trying to give the impression that equal ra ta tanan but honestly, religious people feel that they are better off than non-religious people because nag salig sila nga their God is behind them.

    Why else do religious people think negatively of Atheists. Obviously they feel nga they are and know better than Atheists...

    Again, Why do you still consider those books HOLY given the historical circumstances of their formation? Is it because you have invested so much of your lives in the belief that the Bible is the Word of God that you don't bother anymore to look at the historical aspect of the bible's formation? That in turn would mean that your faith in that Book has shielded you from all common sense and logic to make sense of the world around you and you merely resign yourselves to the thought that it is just simply greater than your limited comprehension.

  3. #293

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    I think Atheists want to prove that people don't need to burden themselves by thinking that they have a cross to carry.

    A person can live a perfectly moral and good life without relying on religion. In fact, most developed countries where religion plays a lesser role are examples of this.
    that is really presumptuous of you knowing that you have never even experimented on a life without religion. Yes, there are people who are living a good life with out religion but has the human race ever experienced a life without one? as you said, it is because they were curious that religion was made. As you can see, man wants answers. They don't want answers like "I don't know."

    Q of a man in a hospital with a grave disease: Am i going to die?
    A: I don't know yet, we will see.

    And besides, do you really believe that it can erase greed and pride or stop the poor from getting poorer and rich from getting richer?

  4. #294

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    To be honest. I've only read like 5% of the bible.
    Before i ever read anything from the bible, i already believed in god.

    That's like signing a contract you haven't read fully yet....

    So what then is the basis of your faith?

    Was it just pounded on to you since birth?


    Like they say, the fastest way to become an Atheist is to read the bible.

  5. #295

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    That's like signing a contract you haven't read fully yet....

    So what then is the basis of your faith?

    Was it just pounded on to you since birth?


    Like they say, the fastest way to become an Atheist is to read the bible.
    so had your interpretation of the bible and we don't have the same interpretation cause we don't think the same. It's not just how you read the bible but on how you apply it. The main point of christianity is not what you read but what you do with what you read.

  6. #296

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    And I thought you'd be able to identify a sarcastic remark when you see one.

    You see sis, by that statement about you guys knowing what God the Almighty thinks, that wasn't from an agnostic point of view, but from a Roman Catholic's.

    I am sane enough to understand that no one knows what God thinks. If you claim that you do, because yiennahs, then that's like putting yourself above in a level higher than every other Roman Catholic. That statement about being able to talk to God makes them think that, apparently, you have some special powers to make chika with the Almighty himself. And if you tell them that they did not experience what you just did, that makes it worse. In the modern world, these people have come out to TV and radio and told the world about what God Himself told them, and they end up looking like *****s.

    That's why I despise some Church leaders who think they know everything about God. They use their influential power and this lie to manipulate the faithful ones.

    But don't get me wrong, I've nothing against using one's spirituality to encourage another person in crisis. I know you mean well, but you better watch how you formulate your words if you don't want to sound crazy. Because if you keep that up IRL, other RCs who know better might hear you, might give you the high eyebrows, or worse, laugh at you in your face for acting like Moses.

    Another thing, even if you say that God answered your prayers through some other way like, perhaps, giving you what you prayed for indirectly, it is unwise to attribute it all to God. There are circumstances that may have lead you to achieving that request. Either you yourself worked your a$$ for it, or some good hearted soul knew what you wanted and helped you out discreetly. Chance may have something to do with it as well. Luoya sad sa friends and family nga nitabang unya si God ra makadawat sa tanan TYs.

    And if you give me the argument that God's voice is found in the Bible, then you will be subjecting the Bible to scrutiny again, just like any other religion debate. If you wish to go down that path, I'll leave it up to you.

  7. #297

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    That's like signing a contract you haven't read fully yet....

    So what then is the basis of your faith?

    Was it just pounded on to you since birth?


    Like they say, the fastest way to become an Atheist is to read the bible.
    When i read that 5% of the bible. That 5% made my faith even stronger. Imagine reading the entire book.

    You people are just not looking at the right directions. Or perhaps refuse to look at the right direction.

    It was not pounded on me since birth. (Lol)
    I attended church. And learned every sunday as i grew up.
    I listen, observe and learn. Thats pretty much it.

  8. #298

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReikoChan View Post
    And I thought you'd be able to identify a sarcastic remark when you see one.

    You see sis, by that statement about you guys knowing what God the Almighty thinks, that wasn't from an agnostic point of view, but from a Roman Catholic's.

    I am sane enough to understand that no one knows what God thinks. If you claim that you do, because yiennahs, then that's like putting yourself above in a level higher than every other Roman Catholic. That statement about being able to talk to God makes them think that, apparently, you have some special powers to make chika with the Almighty himself. And if you tell them that they did not experience what you just did, that makes it worse. In the modern world, these people have come out to TV and radio and told the world about what God Himself told them, and they end up looking like *****s.

    That's why I despise some Church leaders who think they know everything about God. They use their influential power and this lie to manipulate the faithful ones.

    But don't get me wrong, I've nothing against using one's spirituality to encourage another person in crisis. I know you mean well, but you better watch how you formulate your words if you don't want to sound crazy. Because if you keep that up IRL, other RCs who know better might hear you, might give you the high eyebrows, or worse, laugh at you in your face for acting like Moses.

    Another thing, even if you say that God answered your prayers through some other way like, perhaps, giving you what you prayed for indirectly, it is unwise to attribute it all to God. There are circumstances that may have lead you to achieving that request. Either you yourself worked your a$$ for it, or some good hearted soul knew what you wanted and helped you out discreetly. Chance may have something to do with it as well. Luoya sad sa friends and family nga nitabang unya si God ra makadawat sa tanan TYs.

    And if you give me the argument that God's voice is found in the Bible, then you will be subjecting the Bible to scrutiny again, just like any other religion debate. If you wish to go down that path, I'll leave it up to you.
    You didnt have to post an essay REIKOCHAN. roflmao.
    Go read the bible

  9. #299

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReikoChan View Post
    And I thought you'd be able to identify a sarcastic remark when you see one.

    You see sis, by that statement about you guys knowing what God the Almighty thinks, that wasn't from an agnostic point of view, but from a Roman Catholic's.

    I am sane enough to understand that no one knows what God thinks. If you claim that you do, because yiennahs, then that's like putting yourself above in a level higher than every other Roman Catholic. That statement about being able to talk to God makes them think that, apparently, you have some special powers to make chika with the Almighty himself. And if you tell them that they did not experience what you just did, that makes it worse. In the modern world, these people have come out to TV and radio and told the world about what God Himself told them, and they end up looking like *****s.

    That's why I despise some Church leaders who think they know everything about God. They use their influential power and this lie to manipulate the faithful ones.

    But don't get me wrong, I've nothing against using one's spirituality to encourage another person in crisis. I know you mean well, but you better watch how you formulate your words if you don't want to sound crazy. Because if you keep that up IRL, other RCs who know better might hear you, might give you the high eyebrows, or worse, laugh at you in your face for acting like Moses.

    Another thing, even if you say that God answered your prayers through some other way like, perhaps, giving you what you prayed for indirectly, it is unwise to attribute it all to God. There are circumstances that may have lead you to achieving that request. Either you yourself worked your a$$ for it, or some good hearted soul knew what you wanted and helped you out discreetly. Chance may have something to do with it as well. Luoya sad sa friends and family nga nitabang unya si God ra makadawat sa tanan TYs.

    And if you give me the argument that God's voice is found in the Bible, then you will be subjecting the Bible to scrutiny again, just like any other religion debate. If you wish to go down that path, I'll leave it up to you.
    Thank God i am not like you.

  10. #300

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    It's the same thing. Theists feel that since they believe is something which is better than everyone, that would in turn elevate their status and make them in turn better than everyone else.

    I know your trying to give the impression that equal ra ta tanan but honestly, religious people feel that they are better off than non-religious people because nag salig sila nga their God is behind them.

    Why else do religious people think negatively of Atheists. Obviously they feel nga they are and know better than Atheists...

    Again, Why do you still consider those books HOLY given the historical circumstances of their formation? Is it because you have invested so much of your lives in the belief that the Bible is the Word of God that you don't bother anymore to look at the historical aspect of the bible's formation? That in turn would mean that your faith in that Book has shielded you from all common sense and logic to make sense of the world around you and you merely resign yourselves to the thought that it is just simply greater than your limited comprehension.
    Base sa imung post, I think you Dont believe in God because you dont like the religious people. We are talking about God Here Not his Followers. You question the existence of God based on what you see on the Believers? i think sayop ka ana nga part bro.

    Dili lagi ka mutoo sa Bibliya kay puro ra Physical Evidence ang imu gibasihan. Ang bibliya naay aspect dha nga spiritual pero di ka mutoo ana kay way ebedinsya so di ta magkasinabot.

    Nag mention nsad ka ug Common sense ug Logic nya Limited baya na imung Knowledge so lisod ghapon.

    Ayaw i general ang mga believers kay lahi lahi man na sila, same sa mga Atheist - di mu pariha tanan ug huna huna ug pamatasan . But For me, all are equal in the eyes of God. I may disagree with your belief but I never condemn you or the other Atheist because Atheist or Not, God will Judge Us equally and he will have the Last say for all of us.

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