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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Kaning mga atheists pareha ra ni sa tawo nga human makahigop og sinabaw'ng baka nga paskang lamia pagkatimpla, iya dayong gi-research sa google ang mga ingredients niini. Pagkakita niya sa mga ingredients, niingon dayon siya: "Aw, baka ug mga gulay raman diay ang ingredients ani. Therefore I conclude nga walay intelligent being nga nagtimpla aning maong sabawa. Everything happened in a random fashion'.
    Wrong analogy--soup may indeed be delicious, but whoever ever told you that life or existence in this universe was "delicious"?

    I want to do a fast tirade on stupid design. Look at all the things that just want to kill us…Most places in the universe will kill life instantly – instantly! People say that the forces of nature are just right for life. Excuse me? Look at the volume of the universe where you can’t live. You will die if you're put in outer space or the surface of Venus, or Mars, or Pluto at this very instant. You will die instantly. That’s not what I call the garden of Eden.

    This is all stupid design. If you look for what it intelligent, yeah you can find things that are really beautiful and clever – like the ball socket of the shoulder – there are a lot of things you can point to. But then you stop looking at all the things that confound that revelation. So if I came across a frozen waterfall and it just struck me for all its beauty, I would then turn over the rock and try to find a millipede or some kind of deadly newt, put that in context, and realize of course that the universe is not here for us – for any singular purpose.
    - Neil deGrasse Tyson

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Proof? ikaw diay? do you think you are here because you were created randomly from a single celled organism? if you cannot explain how did you came here on earth exactly and where your intelligence came from, that's the solid proof that you were created by an intelligent being. so its your burden to present facts that you came here by random.
    Though we may all want to feel special... that's what the evidence tells us... that we came from a single celled bacteria..... or better yet... We came from Dust and will return to dust.... sounds familiar?

    Maybe that should teach us all the value of humility...
    Last edited by vipvip68; 06-28-2011 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badjaw View Post
    wow.. so just because it can't be explained 'yet', you immediately conclude that there's a creator? hmmm let's see. ancient people can't really explain natural phenomenon during their times, they assume that someone out there is causing it.. right? and you're nothing different compared to them.

    theists basically argue on the 'god of the gaps', lots of mysteries out there that can't be explained (yet) by science, so you just conclude "therefore, god exists" -- nice
    NO we already believed that there is God even without your Science, Its written all over the Bible. All the Explanation naa dha - Wala lang mu ni agree. Nisamot nuon amung pagtuo sa Ginoo Tungod sa discovery sa Science nga nagpamatuod nga naa jud diay Intelligent being nagbuhat natu.

    Daghan kaayu basihan ang Theists para mutoo nga naay Ginoo, naa sa Bible tanan explanation if nahan ka - Its Just that ang mga Atheist sama nimu WALA gi accept ang mga reason sa Bibliya, Because of WHAT? YOUR LIMITED SCIENCE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    Though we may all want to feel special... that's what the evidence tells us... that we came from a single celled bacteria..... or better yet... We came from Dust and will return to dust.... sounds familiar?

    Maybe that should teach us all the value of humility...
    What evidence? You mean your Theories that dont have the absolute Scientific Facts? or You mean your never ending search for the Missing Links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    NO we already believed that there is God even without your Science, Its written all over the Bible. All the Explanation naa dha - Wala lang mu ni agree. Nisamot nuon amung pagtuo sa Ginoo Tungod sa discovery sa Science nga nagpamatuod nga naa jud diay Intelligent being nagbuhat natu.

    Daghan kaayu basihan ang Theists para mutoo nga naay Ginoo, naa sa Bible tanan explanation if nahan ka - Its Just that ang mga Atheist sama nimu WALA gi accept ang mga reason sa Bibliya, Because of WHAT? YOUR LIMITED SCIENCE?
    limited science vs infallible bible. very nice

    if you use the bible as your basis, fail naka daan. you embrace bible as the proof of the existence of god but do you know who wrote the bible in the first place? what do you know about those scribes? that they wrote the bible as an inspiration from what they claim 'god'. but they never had any personal accounts or encounter with god, not even with jesus. the OT was written several thousand years before the 'claimed' birth of jesus and the NT was written several decades after the 'claimed' death of jesus. (i quoted claim since there are also arguments that jesus never existed). you see, this bible (especially the OT) was created as their attempt to explain the natural happenings around them during their time. one good example is genesis, it was their way of explaining how things started. this is a flawed 'biblical science' and you know that. and there are many books in the bible that is really flawed--big time. using the bible as your argument is a failure. all i can say about the bible is nothing but a literary piece with religious agenda. too bad, daghan jud nailad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Wrong analogy--soup may indeed be delicious, but whoever ever told you that life or existence in this universe was "delicious"?

    I want to do a fast tirade on stupid design. Look at all the things that just want to kill us…Most places in the universe will kill life instantly – instantly! People say that the forces of nature are just right for life. Excuse me? Look at the volume of the universe where you can’t live. You will die if you're put in outer space or the surface of Venus, or Mars, or Pluto at this very instant. You will die instantly. That’s not what I call the garden of Eden.

    This is all stupid design. If you look for what it intelligent, yeah you can find things that are really beautiful and clever – like the ball socket of the shoulder – there are a lot of things you can point to. But then you stop looking at all the things that confound that revelation. So if I came across a frozen waterfall and it just struck me for all its beauty, I would then turn over the rock and try to find a millipede or some kind of deadly newt, put that in context, and realize of course that the universe is not here for us – for any singular purpose.
    - Neil deGrasse Tyson

    -RODION
    hmmm
    then you'll agree with me that you are included in that STUPID DESIGN?
    since d man kaha ka mo tuo we were created thru "Intelligent Design"
    Last edited by kajrot1; 06-28-2011 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badjaw View Post
    limited science vs infallible bible. very nice

    if you use the bible as your basis, fail naka daan. you embrace bible as the proof of the existence of god but do you know who wrote the bible in the first place? what do you know about those scribes? that they wrote the bible as an inspiration from what they claim 'god'. but they never had any personal accounts or encounter with god, not even with jesus. the OT was written several thousand years before the 'claimed' birth of jesus and the NT was written several decades after the 'claimed' death of jesus. (i quoted claim since there are also arguments that jesus never existed). you see, this bible (especially the OT) was created as their attempt to explain the natural happenings around them during their time. one good example is genesis, it was their way of explaining how things started. this is a flawed 'biblical science' and you know that. and there are many books in the bible that is really flawed--big time. using the bible as your argument is a failure. all i can say about the bible is nothing but a literary piece with religious agenda. too bad, daghan jud nailad.
    Unya asa mas FLAWED ana run sa inyung TINUHUAN nga Mu ingun mu nga way Ginoo kay WALAY Physical Evidence or Dili ma Prove sa Science UNYA MUANGKON mu nga ang Science nga inyung gibasihan LIMITED ug DILI ka explain tanan butang.

    Tabla ra na inyung Tinuhuan if Mu ingun ka nga - "Sayop ang formula nga gi hatag sa isa ka Professor about Quantum Physics kay DILI ma explain sa isa ka Grade 1"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    Though we may all want to feel special... that's what the evidence tells us... that we came from a single celled bacteria..... or better yet... We came from Dust and will return to dust.... sounds familiar?

    Maybe that should teach us all the value of humility...
    tana lang ko bro ha.
    give us a Solid evidence that we came from a single-cell organism?
    if all of us(all species) came from a single organism that would only
    tell that all of us are the same.. there would be no human, there would be
    no cat no dog no dinosaur etc since we are all came from that single cell organism so why there are varieties of species in this planet if we only came from that same single cell organism..

    curious lng .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kajrot1 View Post
    tana lang ko bro ha.
    give us a Solid evidence that we came from a single-cell organism?
    if all of us(all species) came from a single organism that would only
    tell that all of us are the same.. there would be no human, there would be
    no cat no dog no dinosaur etc since we are all came from that single cell organism so why there are varieties of species in this planet if we only came from that same single cell organism..

    curious lng .
    natgeo already showed a documentary about this. All living things have intertwined DNA. To some who haven't seen it yet, it would surprise you to know that even plants contain similar DNA to humans.

    that is the evidence you seek.

    the scientist who found it was, of all people, a native american whose earlier beliefs was that we are all related in this world.

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    ^
    ^
    ok wala pako kita anang natgeo
    pero a similar in DNA doesn't make it as the same DNA
    and i never heard that DNA evolve ambot lang

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