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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    yes we do.

    this is a misrepresentation, a fallacy, of what we believe. The bible never said this world was created in perfection. In my other post I have explained the origin of our sufferings, look into it again. We cannot blame God for our mistakes.
    in the first place i can't blame your God because I don't believe he exists!




    The evidence of creation invalidates your argument.
    my what arguement?


    I rather choose God than believe on dumb chemicals. Evidence of Intelligent design requires an Intelligent Creator, not dumb chemicals,can chemicals think? no.
    typical theist denial! no matter how science explain the origin of life here on earth, you'd still deny and prefer religion as the main source of data for the creation of the universe! religion has data, yes! and those are fairies!

    Yes He will eradicate evil. Evil is an act of opposing God's standard, He did not create it. It's our choice, it was Satan's choice and soon He will destroy it.
    didn't you read isaiah 45:7?

    Isaiah 45:7 - Passage Lookup - King James Version - BibleGateway.com

    your God created evil!

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    . I also don't expect you to change your views on atheism. What i am hoping is that you will learn to respect each one of us.
    Agreed.

    We don't to force people to move to the other sides. we all respect each others opinions and beliefs. We just hope that you, who claims to be higher than everyone else, would actually act up to that claim and learn how to respect others' beliefs as well. Because in our eyes, you are no different than us, who holds a strong will on one's own belief. Just learn to respect not only yourself, as well as others. With that, you'll mature.

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by florida.blanca View Post
    in the first place i can't blame your God because I don't believe he exists!
    good, that's fair.




    my what arguement?
    that God is an invention of man.


    typical theist denial! no matter how science explain the origin of life here on earth, you'd still deny and prefer religion as the main source of data for the creation of the universe! religion has data, yes! and those are fairies!
    are you talking about evolution? Science has no empirical proof in terms of proving their theory on the origin of life and in cases like this I rely on logic. Is it logical to say that dumb,lifeless,emotionless chemicals can give rise to Intelligent Beings? No its not. how about Intelligent Creator giving life to intelligent beings? yes it is logical. it's your choice.

    didn't you read isaiah 45:7?

    Isaiah 45:7 - Passage Lookup - King James Version - BibleGateway.com

    your God created evil!
    done reading that part. Yes he did create that evil. My question to you is, did you read that part?

    The Hebrew word for evil used in Isa. 45:7 means adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery...and not moral evil or Satan.

    The context of Isa 45 is God rewarding Israel for their obedience and punishing Israel for their disobedience. when God brings punishment He brings evil (adversity,affliction,calamity...)

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    good, that's fair.



    that God is an invention of man.
    yes! as what i said, because people before weren't able to conclude a lot of things why it rains, why there are quakes, why the sun rises and sets. the reason why people before created the idea of deities! it was man who created and molded the idea that there is a God! that was why religion was set up!

    are you talking about evolution? Science has no empirical proof in terms of proving their theory on the origin of life and in cases like this I rely on logic. Is it logical to say that dumb,lifeless,emotionless chemicals can give rise to Intelligent Beings? No its not. how about Intelligent Creator giving life to intelligent beings? yes it is logical. it's your choice.
    are you sure? fossils are the evidences!

    done reading that part. Yes he did create that evil. My question to you is, did you read that part?

    The Hebrew word for evil used in Isa. 45:7 means adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery...and not moral evil or Satan.

    The context of Isa 45 is God rewarding Israel for their obedience and punishing Israel for their disobedience. when God brings punishment He brings evil (adversity,affliction,calamity...)
    dili pa ba obvious kung unsay gi-mean ni isaiah sa evil? diba calamity? distress? why such loving God will create distress? and he will allow millions of people die of calamity! just recently, the japan quake and tsunami is a proof! but don't give me that crappy reason that japan was struck by quake because japanese were atheists!

    if God is loving and cares for his creations he should've at least controlled the quake and avoided thousands of people homeless and dead!

    now you'll prolly say, fool is a man who says there is no God, and they haven't done good.

    einstein, is he a fool?
    the great mathematicians, scientists, they're atheists, are they fools?
    angelina jolie, an atheist, isn't she doin good? we know that angelina went to haiti to do some charity work!

  5. #65

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    yes! as what i said, because people before weren't able to conclude a lot of things why it rains, why there are quakes, why the sun rises and sets. the reason why people before created the idea of deities! it was man who created and molded the idea that there is a God! that was why religion was set up!
    basing from what you said, that religion is made up because people before were not able to conclude some things, i think you just ate your words because until now, people have still things that can't be explained.

    have we discovered the cure for aids?
    how come there are still idiopathic illnesses?

    if you always believe in science, how can your science not answer everything?

    i think you are just wasting your time trying to prove yourself that you are right.

    i wish you well and i hope they can cure your illness

  6. #66

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    na aabot man ni paring einstein tawn ug ni angelina jolie wui.....pero kindly read more about those guys that you called atheist para dili ka mauwawan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    basing from what you said, that religion is made up because people before were not able to conclude some things, i think you just ate your words because until now, people have still things that can't be explained.

    have we discovered the cure for aids?
    how come there are still idiopathic illnesses?

    if you always believe in science, how can your science not answer everything?

    i think you are just wasting your time trying to prove yourself that you are right.

    i wish you well and i hope they can cure your illness
    The answer is simple....science does not CLAIM to know everything and provide explanation for everything.

    It only limits itself as to what can be observed, tested, verified and proven.

    Religion on the other hand Claims to know everything. It does not concern itself so much with what can be observed , tested, verified and proven and relies instead on faith (in God) as enough to satisfy man's questions about the world around him.

    I admire science in its humility and admission that it does not claim to know the answers to everything. But this does not mean that it will stop there as science allows man to become curious and seek the answers to life's questions.

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    basing from what you said, that religion is made up because people before were not able to conclude some things, i think you just ate your words because until now, people have still things that can't be explained.

    have we discovered the cure for aids?
    how come there are still idiopathic illnesses?

    if you always believe in science, how can your science not answer everything?

    i think you are just wasting your time trying to prove yourself that you are right.

    i wish you well and i hope they can cure your illness
    good thing you brought this up

    when science has discovered HIV, there were no treatments which can diminish the effect of the virus! when a person is diagnosed with HIV during the 80's, it's like death sentence. no treatment which could control the proliferation of the virus, and no way for medical experts to control the HIV patient to be advancing to the AIDS stage

    but just two decades, and look what science has contributed.

    science has discovered new treatments like Nucleoside Reverse Transcriptase Inhibitors (NRTI)

    and that's, with no doubt a product of science, not a product of religion!

    science has helped aids patients live a quality life like a normal person would do!

    you have to thank science, coz without them, you won't be able to surf here at istorya!

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_hard View Post
    na aabot man ni paring einstein tawn ug ni angelina jolie wui.....pero kindly read more about those guys that you called atheist para dili ka mauwawan....
    einstein


    Most mortals believe in a "personal God", in heaven and souls, in idols and all kinds of sacred follies - - - and they also believe that Einstein believed in God.

    Not only Einstein's personal God had been dead all along. In fact God was never even alive according to Einstein.

    According to Einstein, God is "a product of human weakness".

  10. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    The answer is simple....science does not CLAIM to know everything and provide explanation for everything.

    It only limits itself as to what can be observed, tested, verified and proven.

    Religion on the other hand Claims to know everything. It does not concern itself so much with what can be observed , tested, verified and proven and relies instead on faith (in God) as enough to satisfy man's questions about the world around him.

    I admire science in its humility and admission that it does not claim to know the answers to everything. But this does not mean that it will stop there as science allows man to become curious and seek the answers to life's questions.
    so meaning your science is limited. it depends on how you discover it. It depends on humans. If it solely depends on humans for it's discovery, so it means that there are more things to come, that there are things out there that we cannot explain. If there are things out there then there is someone making them or have made them already and we have to discover it.

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