Questions for the Atheists

[kit_cebu]

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When you call your boss but your boss didn't answer your call, are you going to conclude that your boss does not exist?

What about the most basic scientific experiment that proves without any doubt that GOD does not exist? Di ba mahilig man gyud ang mga atheist sa science. Nganong hangtud karon wala man lagi silay na-produce nga scientific proof the proves beyond reasonable doubt that there is NO GOD?

Clearly, atheism is not logical nor scientific. It is based on faith alone.

Sa kalami nimo'g mga words ug storya, adto ra gihapon mapunta sa "interpretation" not or example nga mas matinuod kaysa example nga gipangayo ni toki nimo...

And for your god's sakes, again and again, it is on your burden to present a proof...why would your proof show to only 1 dude and 2 girls? A look-alike picture in a latte, a face on a banana shrub, a face in a concrete wall does not count as evidence/proof...

Same question again...what's more illogical in looking up praying for something that does not happen in that instant unless you work for it?

[kit_cebu]

Maybe....atheism has faith....but not on an imaginary person....
Faith in hope... Faith that what he has hoped for will happen...

Like I said on another thread, I'd stick my faith with lottery than prayer....



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[necrotic freak]

^^yea stick with that dude..

[pinoy_09]

In a material world, we verify the truth or falsity of a thing using the laws of logic. Logic itself trancends the material world (it is not bounded by space and time). Any transcendental thing cannot originate from a material source, it should come from a source that is also transcendental. This SOURCE should not be bounded by the material universe(s). This SOURCE is called GOD. Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything.

By this statement, aren't you admitting that anything unexplainable should be attributed to God. Isn't that a logical fallacy?

Second, you said "Logic itself trancends the material world" and that "This SOURCE should not be bounded by the material universe(s). This SOURCE is called GOD.". Just because you maintain that LOGIC is NOT dependent upon human minds, does not mean that there must be an absolute authority who is authorizing them (GOD). Again, that's a logical fallacy. It's called false dichotomy.

You're creating "God" in your imagination and defending him as tough as you can.

[yanong_banikanhon]

OT: Online gihapon ka, sir? Before ko natug ganihang tunga's gabii ga online ka, pag mata nako naa gihapon ka diri?

Maayong adlaw, diha bay. Gibiyaan man lang gud nako akong laptop ganina. Sensya na karon pa ko nakabalik sa akong laptop so karon pa nko nabasa imong reply.

Honestly, if you think about it, that question/statement seems silly. You're asking me to prove that LOGIC is the only way to examine the truth, yet you're using LOGIC itself to formulate that question/statement.

Is that a way of conceding that indeed, the basis of atheism and agnosticism is not logical and is therefore absurd?

[kit_cebu]

^^yea stick with that dude..

And that faith in hope will turn to faith in god it's still unanswered by hope?

Who knows? Right boss? I mean sayang ang tudlo nilang mam sabellano, mam ruela, mam tomaroyn ug uban pam diba?

[yanong_banikanhon]

By this statement, aren't you admitting that anything unexplainable should be attributed to God.

No. The last sentence of the proof is very clear: Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything. It doesn't talk about 'attributing the unexplainable to God'.

Again, let's assume the atheistic point of view. Without resorting to anything transcendental, can you prove the that the statement below is true?

Logic and reason is the only way to examine the truth.

You cannot, right? Unless you will resort to unreasonable analysis by using circular reasoning. But doing that doesn't prove anything. And without proving anything, the atheists and agnostics will remain in that absurd position.

If the basis of their belief is absurd (not logical nor scientific) yet the remain steadfast on that belief, then atheism and agnosticism is nothing but blind faith.

[pinoy_09]

No. The last sentence of the proof is very clear: Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything. It doesn't talk about 'attributing the unexplainable to God'.

Ok.

But you haven't even rebuked some of my points.

Again, let's assume the atheistic point of view. Without resorting to anything transcendental, can you prove the that the statement below is true?

Logic and reason is the only way to examine the truth.

You cannot, right? Unless you will resort to unreasonable analysis by using circular reasoning. But doing that doesn't prove anything. And without proving anything, the atheists and agnostics will remain in that absurd position.

I've said my reply. Your using logic to disprove logic. What other tools can one use to prove the truth, when in fact, logic evidently (as shown in your post) is the basis for everything. So far I haven't seen a rebuttal from you; just a repetition of questions. I think I'm seeing a pattern here.

[pinoy_09]

No. The last sentence of the proof is very clear: Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything. It doesn't talk about 'attributing the unexplainable to God'.

Again, false dichotomy.

[yanong_banikanhon]

Again, false dichotomy.

Sige i-assume nato nga false dilemma kining statement nga 'Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything'. Can you demonstrate that the contrary (Without GOD, it is possible to prove anything) is true?

What other tools can one use to prove the truth, when in fact, logic evidently (as shown in your post) is the basis for everything.

Actually you should ask that question to yourself because it is the atheist/agnostic position - that logic IS THE ONLY basis for everything. Theist doesn't share that position.

You still yet to show proof that logic is the only basis for everything. Lisud ba diay i-prove ang basis sa inyong belief? Kung dili na ninyo ma-prove, nganong nituo man mo ana? Tungod ba sa faith?