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  1. #181

    Default Re: Questions for the Atheists


    hmmm let us hear from them
    gusto sad ko makabaw unsa ila tubag ^_

  2. #182

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    1. Logic, reason, and FACTS should come together...oh, I completely forgot...Common Sense....

    2. Murag putol imo question... Is there a law of logic? Like laws of gravity and all? This is a legit question ha...
    There should be. Without it, we cannot verify if your statement in item #1 is true or not.

    So, motuo ba ka nga ang laws of logic universal (it applies to all) ug immaterial (not made of matter, atoms, particles)?

  3. #183

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    Mao pud ni sagad nakong masinatian. Second question pa gani, maglikay2x na og tubag ang mga atheist.

  4. #184

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    So, motuo ba ka nga ang laws of logic universal (it applies to all) ug immaterial (not made of matter, atoms, particles)?
    This is a confusing question. Like kit said, murag incomplete imong question.

    How can the laws of logic be immaterial? Care to elaborate more?

  5. #185

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Duna koy nahibal-an nga pipila ka questions nga hangtud karon wala pa gyu'y atheist nga nakahatag og satisfying answer.

    1. Do you believe that the use of logic is the only valid way to examine the truth or falsity of any statement?

    2. Do you believe that the laws of logic are universal (it applies to all) and immaterial (not made of matter, atoms, particles) ?
    This questions are answerable by YES or NO. You must be referring the reason behind their answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    1. Logic, reason, and FACTS should come together...oh, I completely forgot...Common Sense....

    2. Murag putol imo question... Is there a law of logic? Like laws of gravity and all? This is a legit question ha...
    Yes there is.
    Last edited by treize; 06-15-2011 at 09:59 PM.

  6. #186

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    How can the laws of logic be immaterial? Care to elaborate more?
    Simple ra gyud baya na, bay. Let me rephrase that part:

    Mouyon ba ka nga ang laws of logic DILI ginama sa atoms or uban pang butang nga dunay physical dimensions (space, weight, etc...)?

  7. #187

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    for me Ang logic wala nay physical properties kay tool, pamaagi or system ra man na . kung nakuha nako imo gipasabot.

  8. #188

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Simple ra gyud baya na, bay. Let me rephrase that part:

    Mouyon ba ka nga ang laws of logic DILI ginama sa atoms or uban pang butang nga dunay physical dimensions (space, weight, etc...)?
    I'm still sort of confused by this question, but let me take a stab at this hoping I could answer your question in the process. Take note that I am NOT an atheist but I found your questions interesting.

    Are laws of logic universal?

    No. The only reason it's called "universal" is because a lot of people happen to agree with it. Morality is a good example. Majority of us thinks Racism is wrong, but that's only because it is accepted as the universal law. 1 + 1 = 2, but who said this is correct? Almost all of us, because that's the "accepted universal law". I can say that my keyboard exist, this is fact, but that fact is my opinion. Therefore, fact is relative to opinion.

    Are laws of logic immaterial?

    Yes. Laws of logic are based on opinion, therefore they are not material. Logic is in our heads. Physical laws are observable, but only because we make those laws and conclude something based on our observations, whether they are "facts" or not.

  9. #189

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Mao pud ni sagad nakong masinatian. Second question pa gani, maglikay2x na og tubag ang mga atheist.
    ug mao na pirme imo nasinati pasabot ana way klaro imo pangutana.

    ex. "immaterial" usually means "not relevant" or "of no importance".

    dili kay ma link ug atom or something

    --------------------
    ug regarding sa "satisfying answers" depende ra gyud na nimo.
    Last edited by Devian; 06-15-2011 at 11:10 PM.

  10. #190

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devian View Post
    ug mao na pirme imo nasinati pasabot ana way klaro imo pangutana.

    ex. "immaterial" usually means "not relevant" or "of no importance".

    dili kay ma link ug atom or something

    'Usually', BUT NOT always
    . Here have a look, especially the second point:

    immaterial

    adj.

    1. Of no importance or relevance; inconsequential or irrelevant.
    2. Having no material body or form.

    src: immaterial: West's Encyclopedia of American Law (Full Article) from Answers.com



    Gawas pa, klaro man kaayo ang context sa akong pangutana. Kana imong reply sa taas, mao na usa ka example sa akong nasinatian.

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