Koreano ug ubang foreigners NAGPAHIMOLOS SA ATUNG EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM KAY BARATU KAAYO

[sadik]

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freem n kaayo cla makanhi sa atong country any time gud but hope ma strict unta regarding sa health condition kay u know na kasagaran nila magdala raba og sakit labina inig night life ay spread the virus gyud dayon

[Metz]

foreigners pay additional when they study here, wala pa labot gikan sa DFA.

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kita kaha noh mo skwela pud og koreano nga language sa korea, barato ba kaha?nyahahha

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

If the school is public I can see justification for charging more to foreign students, since it is local taxpayers who support these schools.

However I see no reason why private schools should be allowed to charge more to foreign students. It's discrimination and they have no right to do so because not only are they not receiving taxpayer funds, they are also tax-free so the entire tuition fee goes into the pockets of the owners, either the priests or private owners. How would you like it if you were charged 2x the price for a product just because you come from out of town? It's discrimination pure and simple though I know discriminating against Koreans is the cool thing to do nowadays.

Its as simple as take it or leave it . Foreigners do pay more because of the quality of education they get , that is not discrimination . If they chose to study here , they are already aware of their individual financial obligations . This is not about TAXES , this is about the EDUCATION they get . And this is probably something you can find out that its not about " ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES " because this is a practice around the globe .

[monroy]

Its as simple as take it or leave it . Foreigners do pay more because of the quality of education they get , that is not discrimination . If they chose to study here , they are already aware of their individual financial obligations . This is not about TAXES , this is about the EDUCATION they get .

The foreigners aren't getting a superior education compared to the locals, so there is no justification for having them pay more than local students. They are getting the same education as locals, so they should pay the same fees, not more.

And this is probably something you can find out that its not about " ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES " because this is a practice around the globe .

This isn't a matter of numbers, even if other countries did it, there's no justification for our private universities doing it. In the U.S. private universities charge the exact same fees whether you are local or foreign, even their scholarships are open to all qualified students regardless of citizenship. Their public universities charge more to out-of-state students, whether Americans or foreigners, but this is because state taxes pay for their schools, not the federal government.

I'm not aware of any other countries that allow their private universities to charge more to foreign students. If you can name a few, I'd be interested to know. I think it's illegal in many first-world countries. I know for a fact that in Australia, all private universities charge the same amount to local and foreign students. Even public universities charge the same amount to locals that they charge foreigners if they fail to qualify for a state-supported spot.

I think our government should step in and put an end to this discriminatory practice because it's going to do more harm than good to our education system in the long run especially once foreigners start realizing what a bad deal they are getting.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

The foreigners aren't getting a superior education compared to the locals, so there is no justification for having them pay more than local students. They are getting the same education as locals, so they should pay the same fees, not more.

You are not getting the drift here . They can always get the education back home if they want to but the education here is probably better or cheaper than backhome .

This isn't a matter of numbers, even if other countries did it, there's no justification for our private universities doing it. In the U.S. private universities charge the exact same fees whether you are local or foreign, even their scholarships are open to all qualified students regardless of citizenship. Their public universities charge more to out-of-state students, whether Americans or foreigners, but this is because state taxes pay for their schools, not the federal government.

I am not aware of the public universities you are talking about unless you are referring to the community colleges . Ang free education hantod ra na sa highschool which is shouldered by the state . Still , locals pays the least , out of state pays more and the foreigners pay the most and you just answered about the taxes although twisted gamay ... its because foreigners and the families attached to it dont pay taxes at all .

I'm not aware of any other countries that allow their private universities to charge more to foreign students. If you can name a few, I'd be interested to know. I think it's illegal in many first-world countries. I know for a fact that in Australia, all private universities charge the same amount to local and foreign students. Even public universities charge the same amount to locals that they charge foreigners if they fail to qualify for a state-supported spot.

If youve been to Australia and went to school there , I would believe you . Otherwise , it is still in the open air ang information which of course I am not discounting it on you . Well to start , sa Europe 2 ka universities didto based on 1st hand knowledge , one in Germany and one in Spain . A relative actually enrolled and paid more than the locals because she is not German nor Spanish respectively . I just dont know if the university was a private institution or a " public " institution but the point is , naa extra fees for being a foreigner even if it was only a short course .

I think our government should step in and put an end to this discriminatory practice because it's going to do more harm than good to our education system in the long run especially once foreigners start realizing what a bad deal they are getting.

There is no definition applicable about your DISCRMINATION , do you know what is discrimination ? You are probably referring to EXPLOITATION although still I dont see anything wrong with it if ever you are referring to exploitation . That system didnt exist last year , dude ... its been like that for decades .

How can they realized something that they got ripped off ? If you put yourself in the shoes of the Koreans , once you finish schooling say here in the Philippines and you go home , you have all the advantages over the rest of the locals who still relies the Korean language as a mode of communication as the Korean who studied here knows how to speak English if not fluently .

Anyways , sa side pod sa Americans and other foerigners who needs no ESL education , theys till would prefer to study here knowing how cheap it is .

Although you see it that way , that it i wrong ... you have to remmeber also that INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS are taking up the seats of the citizens . Dont forget that they are here for the PRIVILEDGE instead of their right for EDUCATION .

[monroy]

You are not getting the drift here . They can always get the education back home if they want to but the education here is probably better or cheaper than backhome .

I get the drift but you still haven't provided a justification for why private universities should be allowed to charge more to foreigners. I'm not sure why Koreans are studying here, but it might be similar to Japan where it's very hard to get into the local universities so the ones who come here might be studying here because they can't get into a school back home.

I am not aware of the public universities you are talking about unless you are referring to the community colleges . Ang free education hantod ra na sa highschool which is shouldered by the state . Still , locals pays the least , out of state pays more and the foreigners pay the most and you just answered about the taxes although twisted gamay ... its because foreigners and the families attached to it dont pay taxes at all .

I'm talking about every single public university in America. There are only two fees, resident and non-resident fees and both out-of-state Americans and foreigners pay the same non-resident fee. There's no such thing as a foreign student fee. I don't know where you get your information, but it's wrong.

If youve been to Australia and went to school there , I would believe you . Otherwise , it is still in the open air ang information which of course I am not discounting it on you . Well to start , sa Europe 2 ka universities didto based on 1st hand knowledge , one in Germany and one in Spain . A relative actually enrolled and paid more than the locals because she is not German nor Spanish respectively . I just dont know if the university was a private institution or a " public " institution but the point is , naa extra fees for being a foreigner even if it was only a short course .

All German universities are publicly funded, e.g. they are paid for by taxpayers. There are no private universities in Germany. I've been to Australia and did go to school there. But that's not relevant, even if you don't believe me all the information can be found online at these school's websites.

There is no definition applicable about your DISCRMINATION , do you know what is discrimination ? You are probably referring to EXPLOITATION although still I dont see anything wrong with it if ever you are referring to exploitation . That system didnt exist last year , dude ... its been like that for decades .

Discrimination is treating people a certain way without justification for being of a different class of persons. If there were a good justification for why foreigners should be charged more than locals in a private university, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise it's all semantics. Discrimination can include exploitation.

How can they realized something that they got ripped off ? If you put yourself in the shoes of the Koreans , once you finish schooling say here in the Philippines and you go home , you have all the advantages over the rest of the locals who still relies the Korean language as a mode of communication as the Korean who studied here knows how to speak English if not fluently .

Are you sure about that? I think they would be at a very big disadvantage to other Koreans because they will have graduated from somewhere the local employers are not familiar with. Besides I'm talking about being ripped off in simpler terms, paying more than locals while getting the exact same education.

Anyways , sa side pod sa Americans and other foerigners who needs no ESL education , theys till would prefer to study here knowing how cheap it is .

Most Americans would never study here, unless they planned to live here. They'd be at a serious disadvantage when they go home and tried to find work with a diploma from a school they don't recognize. Most Americans work while studying in college, so the cost difference is immaterial since if they studied there they'd be earning in dollars and can easily pay their fees.

Although you see it that way , that it i wrong ... you have to remmeber also that INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS are taking up the seats of the citizens . Dont forget that they are here for the PRIVILEDGE instead of their right for EDUCATION .

That's a common misconception that people have about schools. It's a false dilemma that doesn't really exist. There's no shortage of seats in private universities because if the demand is there, they simply build more buildings, classrooms and hire more teachers. And they don't need the extra tuition they are charging foreigners to build these schools. Think about how they are able to expand and build more infrastructure even with just the tuition fee from locals. That's because the tuition fee the locals pay already provides these schools with fat profits, enough to build new classrooms if needed, maintain existing infrastructure and hire teachers. Some of the richest businessmen in the Philippines own universities and got rich way before the Koreans started coming, because of these fat profits from tuition fees locals pay.

All education past high school is a privilege, not a right, even for locals like us. That's why it's not free. If two people get the same education, they should pay the same fee.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I get the drift but you still haven't provided a justification for why private universities should be allowed to charge more to foreigners.

Let me ask USC then I will come back . I dont run an institution hehehe so I really would not justify anything , just a thought that nothing is wrong with it .

I'm talking about every single public university in America. There are only two fees, resident and non-resident fees and both out-of-state Americans and foreigners pay the same non-resident fee. There's no such thing as a foreign student fee. I don't know where you get your information, but it's wrong.

Are you sure of that ? Again , I am not sure of it though I have asked and I have read that locals pays the least , out of state pays more and foreigners pays the most .

All German universities are publicly funded, e.g. they are paid for by taxpayers. There are no private universities in Germany. I don't know about Spain but I imagine a similar system. I've been to Australia and did go to school there.

So that explains so Australia is not " DISCRIMINATING " at all . When you say publicly funded through taxes , that should explain more that FOREIGNERS should pay more than the locals .

Discrimination is treating people a certain way without justification for being of a different class of persons. If there were a good justification for why foreigners should be charged more than locals in a private university, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise it's all semantics. Discrimination necessarily includes exploitation.

Not necessarily , you can exploit a person without discriminating . One thing I am not certain but makes sense , specially in provate institutions .... foreigners are obliged to get INSURANCE which covers LFIE , MEDICAL , DENTAL and VISION . As to how much and if sa case sa USC na 70K more than the locals is kung taas ra ba na siya or fair rate lang I would not know .

Are you sure about that? I think they would be at a very big disadvantage to other Koreans because they will have graduated from somewhere the local employers are not familiar with. I'm talking about being ripped off in simpler terms, paying more than locals while getting the exact same education.

Wrong analogy ka . Say the ESL course alone . Do you think they would be paying the same amount of tuition fees in the Philippines if they take it in the UK , AUSTRALIA or the USA when in fact when they go back home , they simply carry the same degree of accomplishment which is how to read and write english ?

AFAIK ... at least 60 to 70 percent of the foreigners are EXCHANGE STUDENTS or SPONSORED STUDENTS whom the local instituiton has ties with their local university back home . So there is no reason why it is a disadvantage from local employers because these students are aiming high just like us Filipinos .

Americans would never study here, unless they planned to live here. They would be at a serious disadvantage when they go home and tried to find work.

Pataka man lang ka oi , kadaghang Amerkano ga skwela sa Pilipinas specially those people availing the grants and MOntgomery GI BIll . What made you say that its a disadvantage ? Not all courses but a lot of institutions now are tapping couterparts in regards to accreditation . Example on my case ... When I finish school here and get my license , I can go to the US and take the state exams without any refresher courses like nursing or any other medical course yet ironically I am enrolled to a medical course .

That's a common misconception that people have about schools. It's a false dilemma that doesn't really exist. There's no shortage of seats in private universities because if the demand is there, they simply build more buildings, classrooms and hire more teachers.

Hehehehe ... you took my statement literally . When I said about SEAT , its not the CHAIRS hehehe . I am referring to the position . Filipino teachers should be sharing and educating the knowledge to the citizens but because these foreigners can afford , they are left with no choice but to educate the foreigners also since they have all the priviledges .

All education past high school is a privilege, not a right, even for locals like us. That's why it's not free. If two people get the same education, they should pay the same fee.

If two people get the same education , they should pay the same fee ... of course if these both individuals are locals .