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    Default Re: Filipinos are Rude. True or False?


    Quote Originally Posted by wire View Post
    I think this is because of the DRUGS that have been shipped from CHINA... CHINA gihapon ang hinongdan sa tanan... nyaaaaaahahaha..


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    Tinood jud na brad.

    When we were young students, we often heard or read about the so-called Filipino Traits such as bahala na, pakikisama, ningas cogon, hiya, mañana habit, etc. Maybe our very own elementary teachers then pointed it to us that these traits were the culprits, the scapegoat of the Filipino failures, or basically the weak characteristics of being Filipinos.

    When I was in secondary, although there were no Values Education taught as a subject, our Homeroom Adviser would inculcate the values of hard work and teamwork. I remember, however, distinctly in a Social Studies class that these same Filipino traits—bahala na, ningas cogon, hiya, etc.—were made the explanation for lagging behind more successful Asian neighbors.

    My own martinet father instilled in me the value of discipline, palabra de honor [word of honor], attention to details, persistence, and hard work; while my mother gave me the sense of cleanliness is next to godliness. Meanwhile, while attending a military academy, the values of courage, loyalty and integrity were part of the academy creed.

    Quito (1994) notes:

    “It is very Filipino to stress our minus points, to find fault in our behavior, to compare us unfavorably with Westerners by using Western standards. . . It seems that we take pleasure in underscoring our weaknesses, faults, defects, etc. Our standards are smallness, averageness, mediocrity; grandeur or grandness is not in the Filipino vocabulary. . . There is something strange in the very way we look upon success. A person is not supposed to exert effort at the expense of sanity. . . Success to the Filipino, must come naturally; it should not be induced or artificially contrived. One should not be successful at an early age because that would mean exertion and hard work. Success must come very late in life, if it is to come at all.”

    In Quito’s paper, she presented an exposition of the Filipino traits as an ambivalence of positive and negative aspects. I quote here only the positive aspects:

    “Hiya (shame): it contributes to peace of mind and lack of stress by not even trying to achieve.”

    “Ningas-cogon (procrastination): in a way, it makes a person non-chalant, detached, indifferent, nonplussed should anything go wrong, and hence conducive to peace and tranquillity.”

    “Pakikisama (group loyalty): one lives for others; peace or lack of dissension is a constant goal.”

    Annotation: What is greater than peace? Peace of mind, peace with oneself, and peace with others. Peace is what most people pray or crave for.

    “Patigasan (test of strength): it is assign that we know our rights and are not easily cowed into submission. It is Occidental in spirit, hence in keeping with Nietzsche’s "will to power."”

    “Bahala na (resignation): one relies on a superior power rather than on one’s own. It is conducive to humility, modesty, and lack of arrogance.”

    “Mañana or Bukas na (procrastination): one is without stress and tension; one learns to take what comes naturally. Like the Chinese wu-wei, this trait makes one live naturally and without undue artificiality.”

    Annotation: Strength that comes from within ourselves, or from a belief that something is more superior than us? It makes us more human and humane.

    “Kasi (because, i. e., scapegoat): one can see both sides of the picture and know exactly where a project failed. One will never suffer from guilt or self-recrimination.”

    “Saving Face: one’s psyche is saved from undue embarrassment, sleepless nights, remorse of conscience. It saves one from accountability or responsibility. This trait enables one to make a graceful exit from guilt instead of facing the music and owning responsibility for an offense.”

    Annotation: Why delve into a guilt-trip? Guilt is unhealthy if it becomes our only passion. With hiya, at least we truly know our own faults and failings. That should be enough!

    “Sakop (inclusion): one cares for the family and clan; one stands or falls with them. This trait makes a person show concern for the family to which he belongs. ”

    “Utang na loob (indebtedness): it is a recognition of one’s indebtedness. This trait portrays the spirit behind the Filipino saying, "He who does not know how to look to the past will never reach his destination."”

    “Kanya-kanya (self-centeredness): one takes care of oneself and one’s family: "Blood is thicker than water."”

    Annotation: Families make communities, without which nations cannot exist. As Dancel (2005) notes: “the Filipino is nothing if he is not grateful. . . The Filipino sense of gratitude is uniquely Filipino, just as we are uniquely Filipino because of our sense of gratitude.”

    In conclusion, Quito asks:

    “If for the Filipino smallness, meekness, and humility are ideals, could it not be that he is not this-worldly? Could he not perhaps be aiming, consciously or otherwise, at the life in the hereafter where the last will be the first, the weak will be strong, and the small will be great?”

    Annotation: Should we be ashamed, that’s hiya again, of our Filipino behaviors, or as some researchers label them as Filipino values? All these, without exception to the color of our skin, makes us unique. Without them, are we still Filipinos? Or the question should be: Are we Filipinos because of or despite of these?

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    ts dont generalize .not all filos are as bad as you think some of them can just be a victim of circumstance. and you,yourself know that better than anyone for i assume that you have lived in philippines and have seen what's life in philippines is really like. it doesnt mean that you already have been to other countries and is now living there, then you can just forget where you come from and start dragging the country and its people through mud. its not fair and its very embarassing .

    wherever you go, there are idiots out there and not just in philippines some country has worse than you can imagine!
    Last edited by nitwit; 06-09-2011 at 03:32 PM.

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    that was long.. o nanghilum man lagi ang uban when Lord_Ac posted his opinion?

    affected?

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    hmmm dont know unsa history aning TS ug ngano daghan au ni palag sa iyang post pero....

    the article itself has some truth in it, like katong...
    "Filipinos Don’t Know How to Fall In Line and Yield to Right Way"

    I am not sure if "rude" is the correct term to use but yes, naa jud mga places na paunhanay jud labi na sa mga terminals...

    I remember sauna sa south bus terminal naa na mga tao ga atang gawas sa terminal, mosaka gali sa bintana para lang makauna sa lingkuranan.

    and then katong "Karaoke singing in the wee hours"...

    yes, tinuod ni xa labi na sa kanang mga sigkit-sigkit na lugar.
    yes, this can be irritating at times...

    pero, maka miss ni siya ba....
    I've been living in japan for 2 years now and I miss it, i miss the joyful nature of filipinos....

    na no matter daghan kaau ug problema... we still manage to smile, laugh and sing our hearts out.

    like any other race, we have our faults and short-comings but its how we strive to improve as better individuals not as a race that matters.

    and yes.. im proud to be pinoy ^__^

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    @nitwit
    I have known your coolness from your previous threads
    your better than this...ayaw padala don't stoop that low
    don't even stress yourself out
    don't let such low-life drag you down to the dark abyss of a$$holeness
    sorry sir if i have lost my temper,its just very hard sometimes to put up with someone whose as hypocrite as this one . but i will keep that in mind and back to the topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    ts dont generalize .not all filos are as bad as you think some of them can just be a victim of circumstance. and you,yourself know that better than anyone for i assume that you have lived in philippines and have seen what's life in philippines is really like. it doesnt mean that you already have been to other countries and is now living there, then you can just forget where you come from and start dragging the country and its people through mud. its not fair and its very embarassing .

    wherever you go, there are idiots out there and not just in philippines some country has worst than you can imagine!
    You see, you have a point. I should've typed in the thread title, MOST FILIPINOS are rude.

    Now that I consider, is valid.

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    And by the way, if you disagree then just disagree and state your reasons. Why is there a need for personal attacks? That's just childish and stupid. Keep it clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floppy View Post
    hmmm dont know unsa history aning TS ug ngano daghan au ni palag sa iyang post pero....

    the article itself has some truth in it, like katong...
    "Filipinos Don’t Know How to Fall In Line and Yield to Right Way"

    I am not sure if "rude" is the correct term to use but yes, naa jud mga places na paunhanay jud labi na sa mga terminals...

    I remember sauna sa south bus terminal naa na mga tao ga atang gawas sa terminal, mosaka gali sa bintana para lang makauna sa lingkuranan.

    and then katong "Karaoke singing in the wee hours"...

    yes, tinuod ni xa labi na sa kanang mga sigkit-sigkit na lugar.
    yes, this can be irritating at times...

    pero, maka miss ni siya ba....
    I've been living in japan for 2 years now and I miss it, i miss the joyful nature of filipinos....

    na no matter daghan kaau ug problema... we still manage to smile, laugh and sing our hearts out.

    like any other race, we have our faults and short-comings but its how we strive to improve as better individuals not as a race that matters.

    and yes.. im proud to be pinoy ^__^
    thats a true blooded filo there! not ashamed of where he/she come from! tuod pobre ang pilipinas ug daghan boang ug walay disiplina sa pinas pero dili tanan pilipino ingon ana ang uban biktima ra gyod tawon sa sitwasyon.

    honestly na miss nako ang pagsakay ug jeep nga maghuot sa pinas, ang baho sa tambutso sa jeep ug ang never ending karaoke. .

    my point here is ayaw lang palabi ts ug naa kay personal grudges sa pinas ha or kay pacman .ayaw amonga ang uban sa imong kalagot diha .basin ma muted member napod unya ka,lain napod clone

    @ts: stand your ground . your not a filo remember so why are liking his comment?dont tell me you have changed your mind now and becoming one of us?lol
    Last edited by nitwit; 06-09-2011 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Ac View Post
    And by the way, if you disagree then just disagree and state your reasons. Why is there a need for personal attacks? That's just childish and stupid. Keep it clean.
    mao jud! dba nitwit? and mokilo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maldita.chuva View Post
    mao jud! dba nitwit? and mokilo?
    i dont consider that as a personal attack sir but thats basing from his/her previous thread thats been now closed by one of the moderators. you badly need the attention ts dont you? and people to agree with your thoughts about being an anti pinoy?why dont you just join in the website i told you? that would be your best place

    ts im done here and im not gonna argue with a low life nor stoop to your level i think i have said enough and i have made my point, and my point is your just a hypocrite delusional child whose been wanting the attentions of the people here im sorry to burst your bubbles ts but you dont deserve any sympathy. anyways have a good life ts and enjoy being delusional . not a filo eh?and have donated 3m. and yet very jealous of pacmans achievements and the mums hermes.lmao! you might wake up and realize one day ts that being a filipino is indeed a pleasure and something you can be proud of one day. pero basin anha naka makamatay ug maligsan naka diha ug jeep
    Last edited by nitwit; 06-09-2011 at 03:46 PM.

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