Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

[tokidoki]

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i couldn't resist on your hate campaign.. not the billions of the church..

In short, you still couldn't resist. I never asked for the detailed explanation. :P

and i'll tell you even this thread will reach a thousand pages, the church will still have their Billions.. unless you will follow my advice.

That's what you tell yourself. Fortunately, that is NOT what is happening.

Every year, the collections drop. Mahurot ra gihapon na ang billions bro, or shall we say what your priests say: Dili na madala ang kwarta sa langit.

it's little posts like these bai that eat away at the world.

[necrotic freak]

In short, you still couldn't resist. I never asked for the detailed explanation. :P



That's what you tell yourself. Fortunately, that is NOT what is happening.

Every year, the collections drop. Mahurot ra gihapon na ang billions bro, or shall we say what your priests say: Dili na madala ang kwarta sa langit.

Irresistible man ko ka basta bahin sa church ang topic.

di man gani madala sa imperno.. aw kahibaw man diay ka mahurot raman diay ngano maguol paman ka? abi man gud nako nag sakit jud imong buot tunod sa billions nga ilang gi invest.. i-ampo nalang na kanunay nga mahurot gyud...

[vipvip68]

okay, let me enumerate the logical consequence.

ang pobre muadto sa pari mo ask assistance kay naay namatay. conflict of interest kay muadto ang member sa Church ngadto patay to verify. check the death certificate if authenticated bah. the hussle and everything.

another one, nasakit ang pobre and needs assistance, adto sa pari ngayo tabang. ang pari klarohon if tinuod bah. if ma confirm nga tinuod mupakita sa resita ang nangayo sa tabang. the next day, same thing will happen, mubalik pakita nasad sa laing resita or lain nasad nga poor manuktok sa Simbahan. then mahimo nang part sa ilang routine.. the hussle ang everything.. isn't it a conflict of interest?

assuming nga naay daghan kwarta ikahatag ang Church, do you think naay time ang mga taga Church mo cater anang mga butanga. that's a big risk, gubot pa sa lukot kay daghan ang mudasmag sa Church to ask assistance.

wa nay time sila to focus sa ilang objective, mao bitaw ang priest single jud para maka concentrate..

great... so the church should just close its doors to the harsh realities our people are faced with.

Maypa diay ang mga politico... at least mang hatag ug hinabang... bisag ingon ka nga gi kurakot ang kwarta.... pareha ra man na' nga kwarta sa kawtawhan ang ilang gi balik. In that example mas naa pay mu balik sa pobre sa ilang kwarta sa gobyerno kaysa sa simbahan...

Mas grabe pa diay ang kurakot sa simbahan kaysa gobyerno... tsk tsk

[tokidoki]

Irresistible man ko ka basta bahin sa church ang topic.

di man gani madala sa imperno.. aw kahibaw man diay ka mahurot raman diay ngano maguol paman ka? abi man gud nako nag sakit jud imong buot tunod sa billions nga ilang gi invest.. i-ampo nalang na kanunay nga mahurot gyud...

ahak baya nimo oi.

wala man nagsakit akong buot. ang ako lang iminimize lang ba. If you can't eliminate greed, you might as well control it.

[vipvip68]

Anyway, yeah, that is my observation, without religion, most men would be lost. What does religion do? Give hope. Give direction. Of course, again, black and white, if you have none of those then obviously low self-esteem. Hinanglan pa ug pari mosulti nila unsay buhaton sa ilang kinabuhi.

Seriously, do you REALLY need someone to tell you what to do with your life? Whatever happened to the concept of free will? Oh, wait, the church doesn't preach that! They preach the concepts of predestination. In short, you are not in control of your life.

Can I say then that religion is a guide for those people who are not intellectually mature enough to realize that they can live moral lives without it?

[necrotic freak]

great... so the church should just close its doors to the harsh realities our people are faced with.

Maypa diay ang mga politico... at least mang hatag ug hinabang... bisag ingon ka nga gi kurakot ang kwarta.... pareha ra man na' nga kwarta sa kawtawhan ang ilang gi balik. In that example mas naa pay mu balik sa pobre sa ilang kwarta sa gobyerno kaysa sa simbahan...

Mas grabe pa diay ang kurakot sa simbahan kaysa gobyerno... tsk tsk

ang imong pagtuo wala nalang jud diay naka tabang ang simbahan sa mga pobre finacially? pag research pod oi sa activities sa church.. naputos naman kas kalagot sa simbahan bai..

mao siguro wala ka kahibaw kay dili man gud parihas sa polittiko nga naa dayon dako kaau karatula. Project of tongressman vipvip.

[necrotic freak]

ahak baya nimo oi.

wala man nagsakit akong buot. ang ako lang iminimize lang ba. If you can't eliminate greed, you might as well control it.

di pa jud ka mo angkon bai.. ka klaro sa purpose sa imong thread nag sakit jud imong buot.. aminin bai aron dili ka maunay sa imong gi ingon nga mga hypocrites..

[redhorse1L]

bai, stop playing the "i am in the gray area" crap. There's only black and white in an argument. If you are not wrong you are right. If you are not smart you are stupid.

So in this case smart people go to church. That is one side. The other side, do no go to church. if the smart people go to church then obviously the stupid ones don't. That is and was always what you were trying to say. Dili na assumption. You can't be in the middle of your argument. Either you pick one side or the other.

Anyone can go to Church. The poor, the rich.. The dumb, the wise. The sick, the healthy. The bad, the good. Low self esteemed, or the high self esteemed.

Likewise, anyone may not go to Church.. The poor, the rich.. The dumb, the wise. The sick, the healthy. The bad, the good. Low self esteemed, or the high self esteemed.

Now, if you someone like you "claims" that a person is stupid by going to Church, does that make you smart?

Anyway, yeah, that is my observation, without religion, most men would be lost. What does religion do? Give hope. Give direction. Of course, again, black and white, if you have none of those then obviously low self-esteem. Hinanglan pa ug pari mosulti nila unsay buhaton sa ilang kinabuhi.

Typical argument for non-believers. I'm not going to discuss on the importance of religion.. Not on this thread.

Seriously, do you REALLY need someone to tell you what to do with your life? Whatever happened to the concept of free will? Oh, wait, the church doesn't preach that! They preach the concepts of predestination. In short, you are not in control of your life.

Now your talking about theology.
Probably you're thinking about a Calvinistic view of predestination, not the Catholic view.

What is the Roman Catholic view of predestination? | Answers Encyclopedia: Facts and answers verified with sources like Encyclopedia.com

[koontz_circle]

great... so the church should just close its doors to the harsh realities our people are faced with.

don't misinterpret. sa aku nang giingon conflict na sa ilang interest. that's not their main goal.

Maypa diay ang mga politico... at least mang hatag ug hinabang... bisag ingon ka nga gi kurakot ang kwarta.... pareha ra man na' nga kwarta sa kawtawhan ang ilang gi balik. In that example mas naa pay mu balik sa pobre sa ilang kwarta sa gobyerno kaysa sa simbahan...

Mas grabe pa diay ang kurakot sa simbahan kaysa gobyerno... tsk tsk

financial obligation na sa gobyerno so dapat lang mu assist sila sa poor.

ang sa Church kay mainly moral ang spiritual. dili nila sapawan ang government kay they have different purposes.

[tokidoki]

di pa jud ka mo angkon bai.. ka klaro sa purpose sa imong thread nag sakit jud imong buot.. aminin bai aron dili ka maunay sa imong gi ingon nga mga hypocrites..

haha... ang purpose sa akong thread bai was to share the current news. LOL

ka funny ba nimo woi. mao gani sa politics and current events siya. LOL