***truth about jesus christ!

[WordofGod]

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@Malic:

kasabot na lagi ko anang tanan, gi ingnan na bitaw tika nga nagtoon nako ana. hehe. mao ng nihawa ko kay nakasabot ko. o puede man divine si Jesus but not God.

hahahahah...ingna nuon nga dili ka makaallow to submit sa imong self God's who will rule over you!
If you regard Jesus as purely man, then it will degrade his personality to become the saviour and a perfect sacrifice for our sins. For his shadows cast a spotless life. Walay value ang purpose why the father sent him in this world.

huh? nisulti diay ko nga kong ang tao dili motobay nako pasabot sakto pod ko? and besides nag sige ba ko og preach diri? wa man. hehe.

of course kay unsa man sad imong ishare nga wala man sa imo ang kamatuoran? ingna nuon nga kung kinsa tong gusto ug gahum2, ibaligya imong kaugalingon ni Lucifer/Satan.

on the other hand ikaw maoy sigeg preach diri, feeling nimo ikaw ray sakto. mao ng im here to challenge you BUT unfortunately up until now sige lang ka og lihay lihay. ang imo hinoong gibuhat is imo gi gi butang butangan, nya sige ka og twist sa verses. nya daghan kaayo ka og logical fallacy. kanusa man ka magtinarong og tobag nako bai?

of course kay insakto man jud ang message ni Jesus sa akong kinabuhi. Why get bothered if I would like to share sad? share lang sad sa imoha diha kung unsa imong experience nga karon ginoo naka sa imong paminaw. simple anah.
hahahaha...gukod lang ka sa truth malic, discredit it!

I really want to engage you in a real debate ba, saon ingnon ra man ko nimo nga paminaw lang sa youtube,ahaha.

unsa man diay ni atong gibuhat? lalis? hahahhhahahaa....
imo pa kong palabad-labaron ug explain diri nga naa may one click ra nga tubag para nimo ang reader malic maka analyze sa insakto bisan pa ug dili nako ma explain diri ug taas. Of course, it takes time to stress out radical explainations. But the truth still remains the same malic. whether mouyon or against ka about anah!

ka hogot sa akong logic ah, di man gani ka maka penetrate sa akong exegesis. inig hatag nimo og verse akong korekan nya instead imo kong tobagon og imong depensa ang gibuhat hinoon niom is poro yawyaw nya youtubes, sakto ba gud na. haha.

di pahuway ka kung mao rana akong mahatag nimo. unsaon tusik2 raman ni ako diri sa istorya malic. Ang debate malic dili na makatabang sa mga wala pa makahibalo sa kamatuoran..kay pwede i-debate nato ang mga walay pulos bisan hangtud pata ugma exchanging arguments...dili jud ta mag daug.

basta importante is maka share lang ko sa truth. naay daghan nga link nga sila mga reader nalang ang mo explore.

o hala, toa napod palaban napod sa RZIM. kanang RZIM sa akong pagpaminaw pa lang sa ilang mga rason puerteng mabawa, wa maka guba sa argument nilang Dawkins. nganong mag sayang sayang man ko sa akong oras nila.

di palaban lang pud ug link sa occult.. san.
d e p e n d e kung makapenetrate and truth sa imoha. Kung dili pa kayo tanto sunog imong conscience.

tingali ma pareha lang ka ani oh..
YouTube - ‪Ravi Zacharias answers the big questions prt 2‬‏

YouTube - ‪Ravi Zacharias: Why I Am Not An Atheist 1‬‏

bai di ra ba ko insecure. haha. i know why I believe what I believe.

then show me that youre not! matarug man lagi ka aning akong mga posts? puro ka lang pangita ug sayop then dili gani ka makapresent diri sa imohang version of truth!

di kaha mosiga ilang mata bai?

unswahhh? ginoo na jud diay ka sa imong paminaw? hahahahahhaha..naay ginoo sa istorya.net, nakig away ug elementary

huh? mao bitaw nangutana ko nga unsay nagdaug? pataka naman lang ka og tobag oi. wa gyd ko naghunahuna og kinsay daug og kinsay pildi, ikaw ra man ang nag raise ana nga ponto. haha. Di man gani ka maka balo mo present og mo spot og logical fallacy,tana-awa imong mga post daghan kaayo og fallacy nga akong gi korekan, nya mo ingon ka nga hungaw akong logic, haha. onsaon man nimo pagkorek sa osa ka botang kong ikaw mismo daghan og sayop ni anang dapita.

i-trace back doktor kung kinsang logic ang hungaw
imong expectation nga ginoo ka, then wala nakay need of a saviour then madutlan paka ug kalibang or hilanat. asa man imong pagka ginoo anah? imo rang hunahuna ang gahimong ginoo nimo!

sige kag oppose nga sayop ang truths sa bible nga akong gipost then ako na hinuon ang imong pangayuan ug rason nganong truths nah? ikaw maoy discredit anah. but imong tubag wala jud katarug doktor.

nakasogat na pod baya ko og doctor nga pareho nako. di man gihapon siya makatobag,baliko gihapon mao bitaw confident kaayo ko nga sayop mong mga fundamentalists. mao lagi tusik pero pataka lang ka og tusik.

unswahh? ka maayng laki diay nimo..dili diay ka angay motubay nako kay bag-o pa baya ko nagkat-on ani.

hahahhahha...imong style doktor, murag mangingilad sa colon! dili matunto ang mga tawo nimo oi. OCCULT = SATANIC! aware nami anang imong belief malic. Sorry, youre a loser!

1Tm:4:1: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

daghan kaayo og liko liko si Ravi oi, haha. di maka bulls eye sa topic pareho nimo. ang mahitabo hinoon layo ang tobag sa question.

hahahah...kataw-anan dok! only the reader knows

at least na proven na nga naay gravity,ahaha. kanang imong satanas na proven nana? asa man ang proof beh,pakita ayun. gi ilad ra mo sa inyong pastor bai. mao ng osbon nako og sulti nga lisod ng tao nga magsige og hisgut og entity nga wala diha makita. daghan na sila sa Rehab bai.

then how about sa unang panahon nga wala pa kabalo about sa gravity? then karon sa imong knowledge, do you think you have grasp everything? mao nay problema nimo dok, kay tungod sa imong delusion thinking nga ginoo naka, imong paminaw nakabalo naka sa tanan butang. Youre fooling yourself doktor! WAKE UP!

Then makatuo kaha if wala kay knowledge about the early state sa universe as plasma then condenses into a solid form which is now the physical world? this is impossible for those who are unlearned and have not experience its reality. same thing with the believers, we have experienced that working of the Holy Spirit in our lives nga maoy naka encourage namo to know Jesus more. This thing is foreign to you who are blind!

too lang wa may nipogong nimo lagi. hehe. but to judge a group nga satanic sila kay naka attend ka og kaosa sa ilang seminar is very wrong. ga too too ra ka og tsismis nga unfounded. kasabot naka? but imong pagsabot is not based on real evidence but on tsismis. kosog ba ka maminaw ni Boy Abunda?

wala koy hilig minaw anang showbiz bro! samot na kung bali ug siko..hehhe.
mao jud, very wrong para nimo its because kamo ang subject nga gi opposed sa bible. And I have not intention to know deeper about the occult coz nakabalo nako about its roots and we are warned through the word of God as well. no need to step into satan's labyrinth.

sakto ba gud ng wa pa gani ka naka study sa tanang lessons nya mosolto dayun ka nga sayop man na ilang tanang Data? di na sakto oi, ang tao nga tarong og otok magtoon sa osa siya mohatag og conclusion.

do not play with the devil coz he will not play fair with you! ang nakanindot bro kay I already have the truth. My faith was already founded in the Lord Jesus Christ, so the power of satan was not able to defy it. unless kung unbeliever pako.
dili nimo mabutang sa imong bulsa bro ang truth sa Ginoo...your mind is not capable of grasping his fulness. It will only leave you down and frustrated. kung imong natugkad na ang ginoo nimo, meaning mas dako paka niya. Simply open your heart and you will experience his presence.

onsaon man gud nga gi ilad man gud mo sa inyong pastor nga ang tanan nga dili apil sa inyong gropo mga ila na sila sa demonyo. pero kong pangitaan mo og ebidens sa demonyo di mo makahatag. haha, delusion man na bai koyaw na.

wla paka kasabot ana malic. know the truths of Christ before making conclusions like that.

naa pod bitaw koy kaila nga Christian nga sigeg na lang og panaway kay taas na lagi siya og moralidad. di na gud managad sa iyang mga amigo hasta iyang pamilya di na kasabot niya kay di na kaayo mo apil apil sa ilang tipon tipon kay feeling niya taas na kaayo siya og moralidad.

aw wala ka kasabot unsay morality. ayaw himoa nga excuse to discredit the truth if tawo lang ang imong gamiton. Try to compare that man with the Lord Jesus Christ.

hasta si Nostradamus ni coincide pod sa mga events karon. kana gobat linog og oban pang katalagman dogay nana oi wa pay bible naa nana. naunsa baya ka. ayaw lagi pailad ana.

Nostradamus? hahahaah...nag refer raman pud tawn na sya sa bible malic
Dugay nani ang mga panghitabo karon? try daw ask your parents if mao naba ni ang sitwasyon like sa ilang panahon. ang imong kinaiya about morality i compare sa ilaha nga panahon. How about global warming, frequent earthquakes, intense disasters, mass killings everywhere, immorality abounds...mao nani pareha sa unang panahon? hahahahha...ka ignorante gud nimo bro.

PAGMATA BRO OI! samot ang tawo makasabot na jud sa tumong sa imong occult if that is your perception about sa current events.

lalison pa diay na gosto man kaha mo moserve? hala serve mo ako pa diay ng e counter? haha. serve lang mo pareho nilang Apollo Quiboloy.

Know what is true Christianity bro. That is your assignment kay ang imong mga accusation about it wala jud sa mga teachings found in the bible.

basta ma open ang 3rd eye ginoo naka? hahaha. taka lang ka og konek da. akong pangutana bai kong nakakita ba si Paul nga ni transformed si Satan into an angel of light? mao na ang pangutana. Asa man diha beh ipakita kono sa verse kong ni ingon ba si Jesus Christ ni Paul nga si Satan ma transformed into an angel of light, eng eng eng.

bro...di na kinahanglan ipakita sa imoha kay dili manka importante tingali nga tawo. Enough na nga gi reveal sa ginoo through the Holy Spirit ang mga panghitabo ug miracles.

Lu:10:17: And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
Lu:10:18: And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
2Co:11:14: And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

kung mas nakahibalo paka about Jesus bro kay sa mga apostles, makatuo ko nimo.

kabalo ka bai osahay magboot boot ra ba ni si Pablo...hala basa... mao ni sulti ni Paul bai ay... To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.

at least, we are informed that it is his word and not the Lord's. Mas nindot galing na kay maka determine ta that this statement is subject to fail. But if it is the words of the Lord, then wala kay excuse to discredit it.

i am for the truth bai why shoud I suppress it,hehe. imong truth maoy sayop and I have proven it so far.

then present your truth! unsa mana imong truth naa ra sa hunahuna?

rock on bai...

hahaahhahahah....natug ko malic aig saba2 diha.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

@reurgence

What "Jesus" are you portraying then?
You are very confusing. Akala ko bah isang Jesus lang? So what you portray Jesus is, is the right one? Is that it? When I say what Jesus' teachings are, is what I quoted from the Bible. Ilang Jesus nga bah ang meron?? Nkakalito ka eh.
= See? The verses that I posted proved that there are other Jesus' and that you are not aware of it.The reason why I was asking you the veeery first time I quoted you is at least for me to know, what kind of Jesus' you are following. Where he came from. Is he God or Human. But for you it is trivial.

"Better to follow what he taught rather than concern yourself on such trivial matters. Which is more important, knowing when he came or following his instructions?" - RESURGENCE

Obviously, you haven't heard of Disciplic Succession. Your so-called "PASTOR" then? Did he have a Teacher who taught him what he taught you? Because obviously, a lot of people can just pick up a Bible and say they were taught by Jesus.
Where did you learn what you are preaching then? From Jesus? Heck, anyone can say that sir. You can't even answer my question whether you are following Jesus' First and Foremost Commandment. If you can't answer that, then you belong to the throngs of people that just pick up a Bible and say they are preaching in Jesus' name. You say Jesus' Divinity and Teachings are one and the same, you aren't even following them.

=ha? Disciplic Succession? Eto sagot ko haba eh…
https://www.istorya.net/forums/10000735-post425.html

At nag-imbento ka na naman, kelan ko na naman sinabi na Divinity and teachings are one and the same? Sabi ko magkasing-importante lang. Imbento ka eh.

I point out this verse: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt 7:21-23. Now, are you doing the will of Jesus then? If not, then you don't have any right to preach to me.

=Can you tell me more about your Jesus? Is it the Jesus from the Bible? I don't think so, cause Jesus in the bible is not human like yours. Oh is he? You have to prove it then. That's how important his divinity is. If you think you are taught right prove it then. You should have all the bullets to prove that.

An BTW, I've heard you do not have any religion? Does that mean you were not baptized? Isn't baptism a doctrine of Christ?

[charmedlexa]

hmmm grabeha basta religion or religious icon maoy istoryaan daghana jud masulti sa mga taw.. kalevel lang sa politics - daghan kaayo ug moclaim nga mao ni tinood or kani dili.. hahayz

but one thing ray klaro - one or the other don't give a damn RESPECT to what each other believes in.
bisan unsa pa na inyo gitohoan - usa ra man ang klaro natong buhaton since we know man jud unsay sakto ug sayop - one thing lang ato i-avoid which is to intentionally hurt any one or cause pain to anyone physically, mentally, emotionally or whatever - though naay instances nga dili malikayan jud dili tuyoon mosabot lang sad ta. also we should learn to forgive lisod pero at least we should try

kapoy basa aning taas nga litanya oi. pero ako lang masulti - No PERSON can say if one will go to hell for sure! though gigamit sa pagsulti to mean bad but wa juy nakabalo if adto ba jud sa impyerno siya padung.. makakita diay ta?

kung ikaw naay gitohoan ayaw lang sad tawn pamugos nga ipatoo sa laing taw... if ikaw sad di ganahan sa iya gipangsulti nga tinood kuno.. aw ingna lang gud nga naa kay solid belief.. OPEN MINDNESS is the key char... ug RESPECT should be the virtue

[petjay]

love this.....

[WordofGod]

i agree bro..we have the right to share what we believe as the truth. naa ra sa tawo kung motuo or dili.

[WordofGod]

@reurgence

What "Jesus" are you portraying then?
You are very confusing. Akala ko bah isang Jesus lang? So what you portray Jesus is, is the right one? Is that it? When I say what Jesus' teachings are, is what I quoted from the Bible. Ilang Jesus nga bah ang meron?? Nkakalito ka eh.
= See? The verses that I posted proved that there are other Jesus' and that you are not aware of it.The reason why I was asking you the veeery first time I quoted you is at least for me to know, what kind of Jesus' you are following. Where he came from. Is he God or Human. But for you it is trivial.

"Better to follow what he taught rather than concern yourself on such trivial matters. Which is more important, knowing when he came or following his instructions?" - RESURGENCE

Obviously, you haven't heard of Disciplic Succession. Your so-called "PASTOR" then? Did he have a Teacher who taught him what he taught you? Because obviously, a lot of people can just pick up a Bible and say they were taught by Jesus.
Where did you learn what you are preaching then? From Jesus? Heck, anyone can say that sir. You can't even answer my question whether you are following Jesus' First and Foremost Commandment. If you can't answer that, then you belong to the throngs of people that just pick up a Bible and say they are preaching in Jesus' name. You say Jesus' Divinity and Teachings are one and the same, you aren't even following them.

=ha? Disciplic Succession? Eto sagot ko haba eh…
https://www.istorya.net/forums/10000735-post425.html

At nag-imbento ka na naman, kelan ko na naman sinabi na Divinity and teachings are one and the same? Sabi ko magkasing-importante lang. Imbento ka eh.

I point out this verse: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt 7:21-23. Now, are you doing the will of Jesus then? If not, then you don't have any right to preach to me.

=Can you tell me more about your Jesus? Is it the Jesus from the Bible? I don't think so, cause Jesus in the bible is not human like yours. Oh is he? You have to prove it then. That's how important his divinity is. If you think you are taught right prove it then. You should have all the bullets to prove that.

An BTW, I've heard you do not have any religion? Does that mean you were not baptized? Isn't baptism a doctrine of Christ?

bro sorry, haba kasi pag i transcribe pah
btw, yes i was baptized bro twice. when i was born as a Roman Catholic and now as being a Christian. Im not so particular about christian denominations. I am with any group as long as their teachings are inline with what the bible says and help my Spiritual life flourish too.
What's important for me is my faith in Jesus Christ!

YouTube - ‪Ravi Zacharias many religions claiming to be the true path‬‏
YouTube - ‪What is Truth? Ravi Zacharias, Os Guiness, RC Sproul‬‏

who is Jesus Christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2SqQ7XAdA&feature=related
YouTube - ‪IS JESUS "GOD?" - In 5 Minutes - the matter is SETTLED - Indisputable!‬‏
YouTube - ‪The Real Jesus: Opening (1 of 10)‬‏

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

^ the questions not for you though

[WordofGod]

^ the questions not for you tho haha

hhahahah..oo nga pala peace bro! nagmamadali kasi eh.

[Resurgence]

@reurgence

What "Jesus" are you portraying then?
You are very confusing. Akala ko bah isang Jesus lang? So what you portray Jesus is, is the right one? Is that it? When I say what Jesus' teachings are, is what I quoted from the Bible. Ilang Jesus nga bah ang meron?? Nkakalito ka eh.
= See? The verses that I posted proved that there are other Jesus' and that you are not aware of it.The reason why I was asking you the veeery first time I quoted you is at least for me to know, what kind of Jesus' you are following. Where he came from. Is he God or Human. But for you it is trivial.

"Better to follow what he taught rather than concern yourself on such trivial matters. Which is more important, knowing when he came or following his instructions?" - RESURGENCE

Obviously, you haven't heard of Disciplic Succession. Your so-called "PASTOR" then? Did he have a Teacher who taught him what he taught you? Because obviously, a lot of people can just pick up a Bible and say they were taught by Jesus.
Where did you learn what you are preaching then? From Jesus? Heck, anyone can say that sir. You can't even answer my question whether you are following Jesus' First and Foremost Commandment. If you can't answer that, then you belong to the throngs of people that just pick up a Bible and say they are preaching in Jesus' name. You say Jesus' Divinity and Teachings are one and the same, you aren't even following them.

=ha? Disciplic Succession? Eto sagot ko haba eh…
https://www.istorya.net/forums/10000735-post425.html

At nag-imbento ka na naman, kelan ko na naman sinabi na Divinity and teachings are one and the same? Sabi ko magkasing-importante lang. Imbento ka eh.

I point out this verse: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt 7:21-23. Now, are you doing the will of Jesus then? If not, then you don't have any right to preach to me.

=Can you tell me more about your Jesus? Is it the Jesus from the Bible? I don't think so, cause Jesus in the bible is not human like yours. Oh is he? You have to prove it then. That's how important his divinity is. If you think you are taught right prove it then. You should have all the bullets to prove that.

An BTW, I've heard you do not have any religion? Does that mean you were not baptized? Isn't baptism a doctrine of Christ?

Hay nako, no use replying to you. Eh ano bah meaning nang kasing-importante? Ano bah? Puro nlng imbento ang pinagsasabi ko eh pra sayo? What's the use of explaining to someone who already believes that what I am saying is pure speculation? Wew.

What I follow is a PHILOSOPHY. If you don't know what PHILOSOPHY is, might I suggest Google?

Backtrack your posts boy. And ponder on them LOGICALLY. Your answers are illogical and devoid of Love for God and reason IMHO. You can practically say the same thing to me. You have your beliefs and I have mine. And I have pondered and studied what I believe for a very long time. And I had help from God and Scripture. I asked the same questions to a Priest when I was a kid, and what did he do instead of answering me? He cast me out of the church and called me a heretic? What's so heretical about asking a question?

And regarding baptism, I was was baptised. But not according to the general term for baptism. Baptism for me is when you devote your life and everything you do for God, not thinking for your own pleasure. You think that baptism is just some ritual? And after that, it ends there? Your kind really like salvation to be real easy, now don't you? Well, it doesn't work that way. And to preempt you from saying it to me, "Imbento mo nanaman yan!"

Eh salita lang naman nang Dios pala ang dapat sundin eh. Bat kapa nagsasalita sa akin? Sino kaba? Dios kaba? Sumusunod nman ako nang Bibliya eh. Isn't the Bible the word of God? Then why are you preaching? You don't believe in disciplic succession anyway. I can always point out as well sir, "Imbento mo lang yan." Bat di nlng magbasa nlng nang Bibliya? Total, salita nang Dios din naman yan eh. Bat kakailanganin pa kita? LOGIC lang yan. DIOS ka ba pra paniwalaan pa kita?

Jesus for me sir? His divinity lies in the fact that he came to this world to teach people that only by loving God can one actually be FREE from Sin. That's Jesus to me. I don't have to take note of his power. I don't have to read of him feeding 5 thousand people in order to believe in him. His WORDS AND TEACHINGS ARE IMPORTANT. THAT IS WHERE HIS DIVINITY COMES FROM. BECAUSE HE IS A PURE SERVANT OF GOD, THAT MAKES HIM DIVINE. ANYONE WHO IS A PURE SERVANT OF GOD, WHO ACTUALLY PREACHES TO PEOPLE LOVE FOR GOD, WHO THINKS OF GOD 24/7, WHO DOES EVERYTHING IN GOD'S WILL, THAT MAN IS TO BE HELD IN HIGH REGARD. Isn't that what Jesus did during his time here? To dovetail one's life in God's service, that is a hard thing to do. But by following Jesus' teachings, we can come to that POINT. Isn't that simple enough to understand? Puro ka word JUDO eh. You can't get directly to the point. THAT IS MY ANSWER TO YOUR SENSELESS QUESTION REGARDING JESUS. NO SIDESTEPS, NO WORD JUDO, DIRECT TO THE POINT.

Anyway, this is the last time I am responding to any of your "posts". Continue your preaching. You don't win me over, you just made me even more confused about what you are actually pointing out is the Truth. You can't even tell me who imparted the beliefs you have to you. I don't blindly follow something which is not logical. Period.

[nowpress*]

@WordofGod are you a Christian sir? tho i admire your determination to defend the truth but I'm afraid you're doing it in the wrong way. We should share and defend the Gospel aggressively,yes, but pls refrain from insulting people. If you can't control it, its better you stop from arguing people, you are giving the whole Christian community a bad image.

pls follow the advice of Paul.. control your tongue, in this case your temper and pls don't deny it, just admit that you lost it then start something new.