***truth about jesus christ!

[malic_2]

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What I mean wa kahibalo ug unsa Jud imu Buhaton or unsa imu decision although kabalo siya sa tanan Possiblities, i correct to nko an first Post

Unsay Sense if kabalo siya unsay Buhaton nimu or unsay decesion if ghatagan ka ug total freedom...?

Another example is when God spoke about his Commandments, it always starts with the word IF:
-That if you confess…and believe…you shall be saved (Rom 10:8-11).
-If you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off (Rom 11:22-23).
-By which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word (1 Cor 15:1-2).
-Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith…unless indeed you fail the test (2 Cor 13:5-7).
-If you stand firm in the Lord (1Thes 3:8-9)

If he knows unsa jud exactly imu buhaton or unsa imu decision WHY use the Word IF? - Mugamit unta siya sa word nga "WHEN.. you do this" since kabalo nman diay siya unsa imu decision or buhaton.

Again he knows all the possibilities pero kita ra ghapon mag buot unsa atu buhaton kay naa tay Total freedom.

Omniscience is one of the reason why people calls God, God, isn't it? so you saying nga di siya makabalo onsa ato buhaton runs in opposition to this doctrine. asa man ni nimo gikuha nga pagtolonan bai?

kanang IF shows nga naay condition or consequence ang osa ka agreement o command sa Ginoo, sayop ng imong pagpasabot nga ang paggamit sa IF means was siya kabalo kong onsa imo buhaton.

[malic_2]

WordofGod: bro, try to understand deeper truths about the first verse in the bible and God's eternal plan of salvation. If you have the mind to fathom it, then you'd come to fall on your knees and worship HIM!

YouTube - ‪Genesis 1 verse 1 - Part 1 - Bereshiyt‬‏

Malic: mana ko og toon ana bai,elementary kaayo na. doctorate na gud ko.


That is your concept of your god it's because you are blinded from the truth!

i don't know pero ikaw may naglisod og defend sa truth, daghan kaayo ka og sipyat sa imong pag depensa so I guess ikaw ang blinded.

nag ka incoherent naman ka.

[Lyle V.]

When I do good things, its out of principle. I dont even think of God when I give to beggars. I give because I feel the need to do it. Not because there's a God who will quantify my kindness or qualify my actions. If you are a good man, it shouldnt be because of religion, or faith, or other fanatical influence's but because it's innate in you and your satisfaction lies in seeing that you make other people happy not God.

I dont think that if there is really a God, he will throw me to hell just because I am not acknowledging him. The basic concept of Religion I think is to promote kindness and goodwill to mankind, if you're already living up to being kind and good, with or without the belief in God, it should be all that matter.

[malic_2]

WordofGod: shifting sand man gud ka...beh, tell us frankly unsa ug kinsa jud imong belief about GOD? unsa may angay nimo ikauwaw anah? para makita jud ang katag bah...

Malic: imo ra ng hona hona oi nga nag shift shift ko. ka diretso og klaro sa akong mga ponto. igo ra gud ko motobag sa imong mga tomo tomo. mao sigoro pananaw nimo mag shift shift kay incoherent man gud ka mo depensa bisag asa abot , di ra ba ka mopatoo kong ingnon ka nga wa na ka mo sunod sa flow sa topic.

like I said di lagi ni baligya akong knowledge. di gyud ko mo advertise ani akong belief. kita ang katag? haha. di man gani ka kabalo mo depensa sa imong so called truths, ga katag man gani na. taronga sa ng imo.



maayo kay nalingaw ka...ako wala jud koy nakitang truth sa imoha bro, puro lang ka argue bisan wala na sa point! bunga ra sa imong kalibog...

natural wa kay makita kay di man pa qualified gud. ang bata bisan onsao og todlo og calculus di pa gyud na kasabot kay bata pa man. graduate sa bai haron makasabot ka. Natural mo argue gud ta, imong claim gud kay naa nimo ang kamatooran nya sayop mi so kana lang daan gahatag naka og challenge, so igo ra ko ni respond sa challenge nya karon,tikay ang man imong apologetic kay di man ka kabalo, imo na lang hogaw gawan ang debate haron matabonan imong sipyat.



unswahhhh? mura'g ikaw tingali na bro..

huh? ingon ko a hundred years from now. nganong ako man na, kong ako na, ako ontang name akong gibutang diha nga ingon ko nga divinely inspired ang harry potter. wa naman kay matobag bai, obvious kaayo.


waahhahha...di madala nga kaklaro na anang inyong occult nga satanic? dili pa madala ang mga tawo anah? aw depende nana kung moapil sila ug pailad sa occult!

aw di gyud madala. angay ra na sa mga walay education. kita ka anang mga tao nga dali ra ilaron, pakiton lang og sine motoo dayun nga molopad si Cris Angel(of mindfreak show), mao nay mga tao nga di kabalo mo timbang timbang kong onsay sakto o dili. di pod sila mo apil pero di pod sila motoo. ana ra na bai, pero sige lang padayon lang gud ana imong links kay nagpakita ra na nga onsa ka ka dali mailad. wa man gani ka makaila sa mga gabuhat ana, yango ra gyud ka og yango.

1Tm:4:1: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

sa bagay it has prophesied naman sad nuon...mao nga pangilad lang mo ug maayo diha. kay kami share ra sad mi sa teachings of Jesus.

aw opinion pod na ni Timothy iya pod na. pero sa tinood lang ang oban ni depart sa faith kay they find the bible unreliable naman gud. nya some discovered nga daghan pod mga fables sa bible like the talking snake. mao na bai ang obang rason nganong nihawa sila, dili tungod sa mga evil spirits, aw hinoon matud pa sa imo bible...states, "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee."
Devil? aw hinoon kinsa man pod gahimo anang Lucifer ba, kong wa pa na himoa wa untay samok.



bro ang content maoy importante...if it coincides with the teachings of the bible, why not accept it? mura man ka ug ignoy nuon...mas nindot gani nang graphics or videos kay mas makasabot jud ang tawo anah!

intawn ka ignoy nimo. dali ra kaayo maghimo himo og istorya nya e coincide dayun sa mga storya sa bible. kato bitaw si Nostradamus puede man to ma coincide sa bible. Kamo man gani lahi lahi inyong doktrina,ngano man na? tungod kay lahi lahi inyong pag interpret sa bible, inyong e coincide sa inyong bias. ana pod na sa mga youtube videos. so kong di ka dali mailad kinahanglan ma vouche nimo ang mga naghimo ana. kaila ka nila? wa man gani na sila sigoro kaila nimo, biktima ka bai. kalooy pod.

hehehhe....don't get bothered by it bro. wala mana manglabot sa imoha ang mga videos. If youre really into the occult, then pasabot nga sakitan jud ka sa mga truths about sa imong belief. If dili na sya tinuod, share daw sa imong tinuod about sa occult nimo? mahadlok gihapon ka?

wa man ko ma bothered ana, kita ba gud ka nako nga nag preach about sa akong beliefs diri? wa gyud sa. kay di man ko ma bothered ana kong motoo ba mo o dili.
wa sad ko masakitan sa video kay kabalo man ko nga sayop na tanan, haha. ang ako lang ba nga ma save imong face ba kay malooy pod baya ko nimo. morag ikaw hinoon bothered kaayo ka sa truths sa occultism sigoro kay sige man mo og preach haron kono ma "SAVE" ang mga tao from occultism. lol!

any more questions?

[malic_2]

WordofGod: tawn pud noh? heheh..ai nalang pagbinata kay wala jud ko kakita ug truth lagi sa imoha. Doktorit ka sa imong hunahuna rana! doktor2 hinuon tuo ko. mao bitaw, sige ka pangita ug verse sa bible then i-twist dayon ang meaning not knowing nga para diay sa imoha...diba? you're always professing to be wise, and yet you are fool?

Malic: unsa bai, nagkasalimoang naman imong dila,haha. di ko magbinata kay wa kay nakitan nga truth? haha, di naman ka masabtan oi. onsa gud ng ayaw na pagbinata kay wa ka kita sa akong truth, incoherent na kaayo ka bai. magbinata lagi ko kay haron makasabot ka nya besdies ang solti sa bible ba kay...answer a fool according to his folly...mao na akong gibuhat nimo. okay ba?



hhhahha.....that's from the bible bro! ai pag quote ug verse nga wala ka kasabot. mao ni angay nimo i-ponder. Romans chapter 1.

kabalo man ko nga sa bible na. hehe. di naman ka masabtan oi, akong tan.aw nimo sa kakayo na imong olo sa kalagot kay di naman magka dimao imong mga rason. tan.awa ha...nganong mo ingon man ka nako nga its from the bible? nga from the very start imo man ng gi quote nya kabalo ko nga gikan na sa bible. wa na gyud ka nagkadimao bai. ni agree lagi ko ana pero para na sa imo kay basing sa atong exchanges daghan kaayo ka og sayop, mora ka or korek kong mo quote og verses pero kong e question naka sayop sayop imong mga interpretation. so fit kaayo na nimo nga verse bai.



dili mana for sale doktor kay mawagtang man ang power ana kung iyagyag sa public, diba? tell us honestly daw... peace dok.

youtube plus the word of God doktor, absolutely katuhoan jud! unsa man diay anha ko motuo sa imoha nga hadlok manka moyagyag gani anah? hunong tawn mo ug practice anang satanic doctrines dok oi.

mawagtag ang power? hahaha. abot naman ka og power power bai. lagpasa gyud nimo oi. hahaha. unsa diay ang power ana? youtube plus the word of god katohoan? unswaaaaa? asa gud ka ana. daghan youtube with the word of god ah nga gikan sa mga katoliko pero nganong di man lagi ka motoo ana? sipyat na pod imong logic bai.

nag practice ko og satanic doctrines? hala ka bai naka sala na pod ka, nagtomo tomo napod ka. kaila ka nako para makasulti ka nga nagtoon ko ana? kong gosto ka makabalo ana e google lang morag daghan na sa internet.

ikaw ba nagduda na hinoon ko nga ikaw man sigoro ang hilig anang satanic doctrines kay sige man ka og advertise ana. indirect advertisement man ng imo bai. koyaw ni da. sa sige nimo og hisgot anang occult ma curious ang mga tao ana, hala ka bai, dakong sayop kaaayo na sa inyong simbahan.



aw..sunod2 lang diha! just like you gud, trying hard kayo to suppress the truth! hehhe...normal rana dok nga naa jud modaut but it cannot dent the resolve of the Christians. The more mo magdaut, the more magkafulfill ang prophecies of the bible. For us Christians, solved nana tanan doktor. All we have to do is to tell the truth and spread the gospel.

good bai nga ni approve ka sa akong pagsunod nimo. ako nag suppress sa truth? wala ra ba. ako hinoon ang nagpakita nimo nga sayop imong truth. di man na pangdaot bai oi, naunsa man ka. reaction na sa mga tao nga dili mga Christians nga inyong gipangtomban ang ilang katungod. Sige gud mo og ingon nga naa ninyo ang truth og kami sayop, that alone bai is a challenging statement, syempre ang mga intelligent nga tao nga dili myembro sa inyong gropo mo react jud ana, ila pod e present kong onsa ilang views ana. and on the process magka debate gyud. pero para nimo gi suppress na namo ang truth, haha, dili oi, b0g0 ra kaayo ka bai kong mao na imong pagtoo.

M't:24:14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

sure mao pod bitaw nay sulti nila Apollo Quiboloy.

if mauwaw ka sa imong occult beliefs, then it means it is of darkness! share daw beh....dugay na jud ko sige hagad nimo anah.

oi ga tomo tomo na pod si christian oi. kinsa gud tawn ga ingon nimo nga na owaw ko. imo ra ng interpretation bai, kapila nako ga ingon nimo nga di na for sale akong knowledge og wala koy compulsion nga mo preach sa akong beliefs.

ayaw lagi pamogos,hehe. hilig kaayo ka mamogos sa.


whatever you say against the word of God, still you are following satanic doctrines!

nigawas na gyud ang tanood sa. ang imong pagka fundie nigawas na gyud. so dili na lang diay mi puede mo go against your beliefs? hahahaha. ni apil na lang onta ka sa mga Crusaders og mga Mujahideen. wa na na maoso ron bai, kay ang tao karon independent na og otok, aw hinoon naa pay nagpabilin nga nga tao nga medieval gihapon og otok. sama nimo.

koyaw ni bai kay kong naa pa ta sa early centuries osa sigoro ka sa mopotol og olo sa mga tao nga di motoo sa inyong Religion sa?

go back to the tower of babel...consider Nimrod!

ngano diay to? morag ikaw man lagi ang sweto aning mga botanga. ayay basin ikaw ang satanic bai.

sa imong pagtuo dok, sa akoa sad kay wala jud kay truths nga gi-present! sige lang ka ingon sayop... normal raman nuon na if against ka.

dili ra na sa akong pagtoo bai oi. bisan e review pa nato ang mga posts, pwerteng daghanan nimo og sipyat sa imong apologetic in fact imong gi angkon nga di ka maayo ana mao ng youtube videos na lang ka palaban.
normal ra bitaw na,kinsa diay ga ingon nimo nga di na normal?



sa imo ra gihapon nang hunahuna doktor..
Ang luoy kadtong nangailad ni Lucifer dok! nagtuo sila nga ginoo nasad sila sa ilang kaugalingon...

sorry dok ha but dili jud nimo ma suppress ang truth bisan unsaon pa ninyo diha ug diskarte!

hinoon doctorate naman ni akong hunahuna sa maglisod gyud ka og dawat nga sayop ka kay you don't have the eyes to see your folly man gud. your hate has eaten you alive mao ng nagtoo ka nga wa kay sayop but the fact is pwerteng daghana.

d gyud bitaw na ma suppress ang truth mao ng sige lang ka kasayop gud.

lobong napod ka ani bai. try harder!

[Resurgence]

When I do good things, its out of principle. I dont even think of God when I give to beggars. I give because I feel the need to do it. Not because there's a God who will quantify my kindness or qualify my actions. If you are a good man, it shouldnt be because of religion, or faith, or other fanatical influence's but because it's innate in you and your satisfaction lies in seeing that you make other people happy not God.

I dont think that if there is really a God, he will throw me to hell just because I am not acknowledging him. The basic concept of Religion I think is to promote kindness and goodwill to mankind, if you're already living up to being kind and good, with or without the belief in God, it should be all that matter.

This is better than the common concept fanatics show.

[pinoy_09]

Dedicated to all the people who believe in bullshits.

YouTube - ‪Irrational Nonsense Blues‬‏

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

@resurgence
so in your "preaching", we should only believe God? = assumption mo lang yan,

Then why the heck are you and every evangelist "preaching"? Dios ba kayo? = this question came out because of your assumption above ^

Mas delikado yata "teaching" mo. Alanganin? Anong alanganin jan? So what if Jesus was human or not? Does that save you?
= the divinity of Jesus can enlighten anyone to make him believe , to have faith and follow Christ. It’s a crucial factor para maniwala ang tao sa teachings. At kung hindi ito maipapaliwanag, baka hindi mag-patuloy nang pag-susuri ang isang tao - ikapamahak pa niya. So malaki kinalaman nito sa kaligtasan.

And regarding whether Jesus is God or not, he AINT God. He said it specifically.
"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." John 5:37. The Jews were there, and yet Jesus said that they had never seen his Father's shape or heard his voice. Well?

=Sinabi talaga ni Jesus yan, ang katunayan nasa itaas lang ng verse mo:
Joh 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Joh 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

=hindi naman kasi si Jesus ang magpapatotoo ng pagka-Dios niya eh. Ang mission ni Kristo, ipakilala ang Ama. Yung Ama naman ipinakilala yung Anak niya.

Eh anong sabi nung Ama sa Anak?
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
=sabi nung Ama yung anak niya Dios din eh.


Eh ano sabi nung mga alagad tungkol kay Kristo?
2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Eto pa sabi ng alagad:
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matt. 28:19.
See the word GIVEN? If he were God, why did his POWER have to be Given?
=Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
=binigay pala talaga sa kanya yung kapangyarihan eh, bago pa gawin lahat ng bagay magkasama na sila ng Ama. Kaya importante na malaman ang divinity. Walang TAO kailanman ang nakakita sa Dios. You have to know kung saan nagsimula si Jesus. Sadly for you, trivial lang ito.

God means someone who has NO EQUAL nor IS ANYONE SUPERIOR TO HIM.

=Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
=Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Your theory is just "Believe that Jesus is God". Then what? What comes after that? Dead end nlng na?
=Believing that Jesus is God is not a theory. It is a biblical fact which is trivial for you. An I never stated that all you have to do is to believe. You have to follow his teachings, but do not ever say his teachings are more important that his divinity.

[Resurgence]

@resurgence
so in your "preaching", we should only believe God? = assumption mo lang yan,

Then why the heck are you and every evangelist "preaching"? Dios ba kayo? = this question came out because of your assumption above ^

Mas delikado yata "teaching" mo. Alanganin? Anong alanganin jan? So what if Jesus was human or not? Does that save you?
= the divinity of Jesus can enlighten anyone to make him believe , to have faith and follow Christ. It’s a crucial factor para maniwala ang tao sa teachings. At kung hindi ito maipapaliwanag, baka hindi mag-patuloy nang pag-susuri ang isang tao - ikapamahak pa niya. So malaki kinalaman nito sa kaligtasan.

And regarding whether Jesus is God or not, he AINT God. He said it specifically.
"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." John 5:37. The Jews were there, and yet Jesus said that they had never seen his Father's shape or heard his voice. Well?

=Sinabi talaga ni Jesus yan, ang katunayan nasa itaas lang ng verse mo:
Joh 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Joh 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

=hindi naman kasi si Jesus ang magpapatotoo ng pagka-Dios niya eh. Ang mission ni Kristo, ipakilala ang Ama. Yung Ama naman ipinakilala yung Anak niya.

Eh anong sabi nung Ama sa Anak?
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
=sabi nung Ama yung anak niya Dios din eh.


Eh ano sabi nung mga alagad tungkol kay Kristo?
2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Eto pa sabi ng alagad:
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matt. 28:19.
See the word GIVEN? If he were God, why did his POWER have to be Given?
=Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
=binigay pala talaga sa kanya yung kapangyarihan eh, bago pa gawin lahat ng bagay magkasama na sila ng Ama. Kaya importante na malaman ang divinity. Walang TAO kailanman ang nakakita sa Dios. You have to know kung saan nagsimula si Jesus. Sadly for you, trivial lang ito.

God means someone who has NO EQUAL nor IS ANYONE SUPERIOR TO HIM.

=Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
=Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Your theory is just "Believe that Jesus is God". Then what? What comes after that? Dead end nlng na?
=Believing that Jesus is God is not a theory. It is a biblical fact which is trivial for you. An I never stated that all you have to do is to believe. You have to follow his teachings, but do not ever say his teachings are more important that his divinity.

Hay nako, from what you are implying, you are obviously not following his teachings. Let me give you an analogy of what your theory points to. There are tribes in the Papua New Guinea that have never seen an airplane. When they do see one fly overhead, they worship it as if the airplane were God. Eh kng mas importante ang divinity nya kesa sa commandments nya, bat ka pa nagsasalita? Bat pa kami pupunta sa simbahan? Kng theory mo ang masusunod, kng naniniwala kami na ang divinity ni Jesus ay dahil Dios xa, eh di tumahimik ka na, dba? And if divinity is important sir, you don't have any right to preach. As you said, we should only believe in Jesus because he is God. Why do you have to preach then? I can read the Bible, I can follow Jesus' precepts. Then each and everyone of you evangelists should just shut up. Are you Jesus then that I should believe in you? Aren't you human as well? Then you don't have any right to preach what is right then, according to your theory. And that completely destroys your theory. If his divinity were more important than his teachings, you and every other evangelist should stop preaching here and go somewhere in Africa or some other place where people have never heard of Jesus Christ. And that is NO ASSUMPTION sir. THAT IS PLAIN COMMON SENSE, which your theory obviously lacks. Any intelligent person would see the point I am trying to make.

I have nothing against you sir. Don't get me wrong. What I am against is your theory, which lacks common sense and the basic principle that binds Jesus and the Father, LOVE.

Pilay pusta, ingnon nsad ni mr. D.A.M.A.S.O nga "assumption mo lang yan" ang tanan sa akng gpanulti. I LOL at this sir.

[pboi]

taasa na ani nga thread oi. kapoy man basa. ehhe ako maingon. basa lang tag bibliya.