***truth about jesus christ!

[malic_2]

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what's the point of debating doktor? unsa naman diay ni? asa naman ang imong gipresent nga truths? i present sa ang imong truths then i will challenge you for a debate. Tell me first what is your stand! shifting sand man gud ka...karon occult then if wala nay ikashare mag atheist nasad?

ikaw man kaha ang gakopot sa truth? so ipakita na mao na atong e debate. wa man ko nag claim nga naa nako ang absolute truth.

ikaw maoy wala kasabot doktor! dili pwed nga ang Christian God himuon nimo ug parehas sa occult nga mga ginoo2 sama nimo. In ana ka powerful and mysterious ang Ginoo doktor...dili siya masulod sa imong utok nga limitado ra. Ang ginoo nga imong ma explain ang iyang kinatibuk-an, finite god rana sama nimo nga nag assumed nga ginoo nah tungod sa imong meditation ug pabuka2 sa mata. Balikon nako doktor, dili ka ginoo kung madutlan ka ug kalibang ug hilanat lagi.

naa ra man diay na nya nganong maka ingon man mo nga mao na gyud ni ang ginoo nya matud pa nimo dili siya ma grasp. way klaro nimo.

YouTube - ‪The One True God-(part1b)-"God Is A Trinity"‬‏

YouTube - ‪GOD THE TRINITY PROVEN LOGIC REASON TRUTH !‬‏

...Father, Son and the Holy Spirit ai liboga imong lubog na nga hunahuna doktor kay mosamot ka ma-deceived anah! wala ka maglisud sa occult ug sabot, ma explain ra nimo?

1+1+1=1

[malic_2]

it is very dangerous to be a fundamentalist. That is what Pacquiao is. He reads the Bible and he interprets it literally. The Bible, as you know, was not written by God. The Bible was written at least 17 years after the death of Jesus Christ, so it was not even written by any of the eyewitnesses to Jesus. They are quoting Jesus liberally throughout the Bible because none of them were living when he was around. Plus, they are quoting God, but the Bible says that none of them has ever seen God. In fact, if you have claimed to have seen God, as I've said, you are in urgent need of psychiatric care. The Bible was written first in Aramic and then interpreted into Hebrew, and then into Latin, and from Latin, into all the Latin based languages of the Western world, including English. So it is very dangerous to quote the Bible and apply it literally as Pacquiao is doing.

dangerous indeed.

[malic_2]

what's the use of this forum if we are all teachers? everyone has the right to know and voice his opinion dok! The sad thing is that, you are assuming you are at a higher level and could not exchange ideas if it doesn't fit your own thinking.

Adto sa RZIM lagi para matagbaw jud ka ngadto....ug sagang bah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxr3H0R-DUU

ikaw gauna una og teach diri ako lang kang gi korekan. ingnan lang ng RZIM nga pa email lang si Dawkins nila og si Bart Ehrman. ikaw pod pag email pod didto.

[THE SKULLS]

I wonder if the basis of faiths llike Bible and other books are really WordofGod.
Obviously, they're all written by men.
Imagine!!!

[bearish]

I wonder if the basis of faiths llike Bible and other books are really WordofGod.
Obviously, they're all written by men.
Imagine!!!

kasagaran sa mga tawo dali ra kaayo mo tuo kung unsay mabasa sa libro. once ma convinced na, lisod na sad kaayo bakwion ang napatik na sa utok. mao nay gitawag ug brainwashed.

sa mga panghitabo sa kalibutan, unsa man ang mga ni coincide sa bible?

[Crimson_Viper]

and you even quoted a verse from the bible

do you even have a joke detector.?






this is why threads, should have an IQ test before people can post.. (that includes me)

[THE SKULLS]

kasagaran sa mga tawo dali ra kaayo mo tuo kung unsay mabasa sa libro. once ma convinced na, lisod na sad kaayo bakwion ang napatik na sa utok. mao nay gitawag ug brainwashed.

sa mga panghitabo sa kalibutan, unsa man ang mga ni coincide sa bible?

Uu, motu-o na unta gani ko sa kang Dan Brown nga gipangsulat.

Ako lang jud nasabtan bahin aning Jesus, amigo nato Siya.
Kung Siya man gani dapat sundon para magkahi-usa ta, pwede kaayo.

Daghang mga panghitabo tingali nga ni-coincide sa Bible, pero wa koy sure. Dili man sad ko tigbasa ug Bible gud. Maminaw ra ko sa wali sa Pari.

[WordofGod]

@malic:

kay haron alegre ba nya matud pa sa bible...answer a fool according to his folly. mao na akong gibuhat nimo.

Hehhe…occultic bible na dok?

Sa Christian bible dok ai…

Proverb:26:4: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

[WordofGod]

Sorry for this lengthy article ha...but it's a worthwhile e-book I just want to share.

Jesus Among Other Gods by Ravi Zacharias

“The purpose of this book is to lay out for you, the reader, why I firmly believe Jesus Christ to be who He claimed to be –the Son of the living God, the One who came to seek and to save a lost humanity”

The world in which we live today can summarized by:

• Religious pluralism; all religions are the same, or lead to the same destination

The claim that all beliefs are true, from the outset, is clearly wrong. Consider:
• To deny this statement would also then be true, and all beliefs then are not true
• Even other religions themselves do not say that all religions are the same (e.g. Islam)
• If all religions are the same, then why do religious elders get so upset when people convert to Christianity? Every religion at its core is exclusive… but not all can be true.

Jesus said in John 14:6:
“I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Can the exclusive claim of Christ be true? What gives Jesus the authority to say such things, and why should we believe Him?

Addressing a Heavenly Home: Where was Jesus from?

Read John 1: 35-46
“The next day John was there again with two of his disciples. When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, "Look, the Lamb of God!" When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus. Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, "Rabbi"(which means Teacher), "where are you staying?" "Come," he replied, "and you will see." So they went and saw where he was staying, and spent that day with him. It was about the tenth hour. Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus. The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, "We have found the Messiah" (that is, the Christ). And he brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas" (which, when translated, is Peter)

The next day Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. Finding Philip, he said to him, "Follow me." Philip, like Andrew and Peter, was from the town of Bethsaida. Philip found Nathanael and told him, "We have found the one Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote--Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." "Nazareth! Can anything good come from there?" Nathanael asked. “Come and see," said Philip.”

Jesus claimed that He was from a heavenly dwelling, from above (John 3:13,John 8:21-23).

Jesus’ disciples were obsessed with His origins

• When Jesus’ disciples encountered Him, they asked “Where are youstaying?” or “Where are you from”?

• Disciples were curious about Christ’s earthly home; Jesus wantedto show them His heavenly dwelling… “Come, and you will see”

• “In the East, the home was (and still is) a defining cultural indicator. Everything that determines who you are and what your future bodes is tied to your heritage and your social standing. Absolutely everything.” -Zacharias

Christ’s heavenly dwelling is unique among any world religion

• All other leaders who claimed for themselves divine status had a beginning, but Christ did not. Preceding His birth was eternity.

• Islam claims that at one point in his life, on one particular night, Mohammed was transported to heaven on a single journey, to be given a glimpse of what heaven was like. Heaven was foreign to Mohammed, and that is point of significant difference.

[WordofGod]

Two main points of evidence that support Jesus’ claims of heavenly origin:

• Jesus was conceived without consummation (i.e. born of a virgin)

• He led a life without blemish

Addressing a Heavenly Home: Where was Jesus from?

Conception without Consummation

“In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you." Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end." "How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.

So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. For nothing is impossible with God."Iam the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.”

–Luke 1:26-38

“When one is searching for evidence to confirm a startling claim, it is necessary to look for some other source that gives creedance to it, even though it would not be in its own best interests to do so.” -Zacharias

Jesus’ virgin birth was a claim that had clear possibility of being verified along many lines. This was claim that would have been easy to disprove… had it not been true!

• For Mary to claim such an outlandish conception would have been not only to risk her own life, but also to have put her baby’s life at risk

• Particularly significant because this was predicted long before Christ was born… Perfect fit of hundreds of prophecies with fulfillment (Passages?)

• Testimonies of Zacharias and Elizabeth; in their culture, having your own child as ‘second fiddle’ to someone else’s was social suicide, especially a younger cousin

•Islam, which for centuries stood against Christianity, affirms the virgin birth of Christ (Surah19.19-21)… yet despite this miraculous conception, Muslims deny that Jesus is the Son of God

A Life without Blemish

Jesus’ life has always been regarded as the purest, not just by Christians. His adversaries tried but were never able to bring any contrary proof against Him (Luke 23:1-4, 13-16).

• By contrast, no other individual has ever elicited such claims. By their own admission, this includes Mohammed, Buddha and Krishna. Their lives and struggles are recorded within their own scriptures.
• There are many more differences and contrasts between the lives of Mohammed and Jesus. Mohammed’s marriages to eleven wives is difficult for Muslim scholars to explain: clearly establishes the gradual need to die to one’s self so that the two can become one, a process of failing an picking up, never one of perfection.

Never even a hint in the life of Jesus that He was ever driven by sensuality or needed to seek forgiveness for anything (Hebrews 4:15; Luke 4:1-13).

• Hinduism: account of Krishna’s exploits with milkmaids an embarrassment to many Hindu scholars

• Buddhism: fact that Buddha endured rebirths implies a series of imperfect lives. He went in search of an answer. Jesus came with the answer

• Jesus alone emerges as the spotless One, untainted by any error of omission or commission

��Also, contrast the way that Mohammed and Jesus understood their call

• Mohammed claimed to have been confused he first ‘received revelation’

• Jesus from birth knew exactly who He was and where He came from (Luke 2:49)