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    Because it was God's plan, a perfect plan, and Jesus was in on it.

    Jesus took on the weight of our sins but had no sin Himself. So death had no power over him.

    In our own human understanding it's beyond us. If something dies it's dead, finished, the end, kaput. But to God it's different. He knows Jesus will over come death so it's a different story.

    If you really want to follow Christ's commandments then you must follow all his commandments which include...
    "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
    John 3:7
    In John 3:3-7 Jesus answers Nicodemus that for eternal life he must get rid of his old self and become new in the spirit.

    When you believe that Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice that washes your sins away making you Holy. A new you in the spirit. And you will be filled with the Holy Spirit and He will stay because your body becomes the new temple.

    Following commandments is very hard on your own. You know the commandments. And Jesus takes it further in that you not only have to follow them in works but also in your heart. You may not have commit the act of murder but merely the thought of it already makes you guilty. On your own you could probably follow in your heart for a while... but all the time? It's really hard.

    When you are filled with the Holy Spirit you are filled with the strength and compassion to do what's right.

    You keep mentioning Jesus FIRST and FOREMOST commandment. I don't remember you even mentioning what that was... unless that was one of the parts I skipped reading.

    It is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    If you love the Lord thy God why do you question Him? Why do you question Him sacrificing His only Son? That is not loving with all thy soul and mind.

    I am not jumbling words here. Why are you so focused on one commandment?

    I've said before if Satan can turn you away from the truth with religion then he will.

    He is a false doctor telling you in order to live you have to eat healthy food and exercise. Then you die because what he did not tell you is you really needed a heart transplant.

    I am not her arguing to prove who's right. I'm here because I'm led to reach out and help you find answers. And the answer is Jesus.

    Sorry, I am not a follower of the Catholic Church. If you've been reading the headlines do you really think they can give you guidance?

    Can I sleep now?

  2. #532

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    alien daw ni si jesus... from other planet with advance technology capable of manipulating the molecules.. gave moses the sacred arc that enables the user to split the sea... with angels boarded on a saucer like objects with bright lights appearing like falling stars and interpreted by some ignoramous homosapeins as angels from heaven.

  3. #533

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    Quote Originally Posted by abortretryfail View Post
    Because it was God's plan, a perfect plan, and Jesus was in on it.

    Jesus took on the weight of our sins but had no sin Himself. So death had no power over him.

    In our own human understanding it's beyond us. If something dies it's dead, finished, the end, kaput. But to God it's different. He knows Jesus will over come death so it's a different story.

    If you really want to follow Christ's commandments then you must follow all his commandments which include...
    "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
    John 3:7
    In John 3:3-7 Jesus answers Nicodemus that for eternal life he must get rid of his old self and become new in the spirit.

    When you believe that Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice that washes your sins away making you Holy. A new you in the spirit. And you will be filled with the Holy Spirit and He will stay because your body becomes the new temple.

    Following commandments is very hard on your own. You know the commandments. And Jesus takes it further in that you not only have to follow them in works but also in your heart. You may not have commit the act of murder but merely the thought of it already makes you guilty. On your own you could probably follow in your heart for a while... but all the time? It's really hard.

    When you are filled with the Holy Spirit you are filled with the strength and compassion to do what's right.

    You keep mentioning Jesus FIRST and FOREMOST commandment. I don't remember you even mentioning what that was... unless that was one of the parts I skipped reading.

    It is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    If you love the Lord thy God why do you question Him? Why do you question Him sacrificing His only Son? That is not loving with all thy soul and mind.

    I am not jumbling words here. Why are you so focused on one commandment?

    I've said before if Satan can turn you away from the truth with religion then he will.

    He is a false doctor telling you in order to live you have to eat healthy food and exercise. Then you die because what he did not tell you is you really needed a heart transplant.

    I am not her arguing to prove who's right. I'm here because I'm led to reach out and help you find answers. And the answer is Jesus.

    Sorry, I am not a follower of the Catholic Church. If you've been reading the headlines do you really think they can give you guidance?

    Can I sleep now?
    God is called GOD because nobody is equal or superior to him. And regarding love, I have no idea what kind of love you are pointing out. For me, Jesus' sacrifice for mankind was to descend to this world and teach us that only by doing the will of his Father and loving his Father is our ticket out of here. Don't you get it? If it was to die on the cross, he would have said, "My first and foremost commandment is that you stick me on the cross until I die so that all of you can be saved." But did he say that? No. If Jesus truly died for everybody, then why the heck are you and every Bible fanatic continue to claim that unless we believe in Christ, we won't be saved? Don't you get it? It contradicts your statement that Christ died for mankind. What constitutes mankind then? Only those that believe in him? So what does that make the others who have not even heard of him? Animals? I don't blindly follow a theory that also contradicts itself. And why am I focused on that one commandment? READ. It says FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT. You don't jump to commandment no. 2 or whatever commandment before you've actually done or are following the first one, do you now? Once you follow that First and Foremost Commandment, then the other commandments would follow, wouldn't it?

    And regarding your point of love, it's nothing more than a sadistic love because a Father is cruel enough to his Son to save others. Where's the love in that? So his Son is no longer important then? Screw his Son, as long as mankind is saved, is that it? Bottom line is: You want Jesus to suffer on the cross for you. I DON'T. I love Jesus so much that the thought of him suffering on the cross is unbearable. But you don't. You glorify it. You want to bathe in his blood. So much for your "love" for Jesus. You are just in league with the Pharisees and all those who crucified Jesus out of envy.

    Jesus only taught to love his Father and do his will. I have a personal relationship with Jesus and God. And that makes me happy, more than anyone or anything in this world can give. You want Jesus dead so that you may be saved? I don't. I am serving him more by serving his Father. And that is by loving a living Christ, not a dead and suffering one.

    Since you claim that Jesus triumphed over death, you are saying that it's OK to crucify him because he won't die anyway. Where's the "love" in that? Is it love when you see someone that you love so much suffer for you, it's OK? Some love you have sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Bro, we are not the saviour! Don't get burdened by it. Mind your own salvation and if you'll have the time share it with others that they may know him also.

    Leave that question to GOD!
    Saved nman kha ka sir? Since saved nka, ngano nag.mind pman kag share anang mga nahibaw.an nmo? According to you, I and everyone should mind our own salvation. Dba narcissistic rman na? Whew.

    Let God do the preaching about his Son then. Since you and all the new-age preachers proclaim yourselves to be saved, then you folks should remain silen, right? As you said, mind our own salvation.

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    So today is the 21st of May. Where the hell is the rapture and why aren't I seeing people flying into the sky? Damn it Jesus, you let me down again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Bro, evaluate what i presented here. That's all. Don't expect too much from me. Unsay akong mashare mao rana.
    well its your fault don't blame me. you came here with your so called infallible truths,you left us no choice but to challenge you and forgive me I have to say this, you FAILED.


    Mahimuot jud ko nimo bro, nagbuhat na bitaw ka ug thread against sa mga Christians then karon ari nasad ka ani nga thread kay dili jud ka mahimutang? So be it, wala koy nahibaw-an. Don't be bothered with the truths i shared lang.
    what's wrong with it? hahaha. does the thread have a no enter sign? di ko mahimutang? LOL, you amused me bai kay assuming kaayo ka?

    Kasabot ko sa imong pasabot bro. Mao ni ai..tungod kay mas kamao paka nako, gusto nimo ipakita jud sa tawo nga insakto ka. But you lose credibility in that ground bro, dili na mao ang basis sa tinuod or bakak.Wala pa jud ko makabasa sa imong version sa TRUTH nga imong gitago-tagoan. I dont know nganong mahadlok jud ka mahibaw-an na sa public!
    oh God please help this poor soul. now you can read minds? everything you said is wrong. I'm here to challenge you, if it wasn't for your arrogance I wouldn't be insisting a debate with you.



    terms mana sa mga istambay bro!
    so? ayaw ug kalikoy bai.

    at first maayo kaayo ka mo stroya nya kong ma challenge na gani ka molikoy ka mo resort dayun ka og ad hominem. ako pa nimo no repent oi sa imong mga sala.

  8. #538

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    yah, as i said you are very welcome to raise up questions and scrutinized any christian doctrine ngadto sa RZIM. Mao jud na ang purpose sa ilang ministry bro. I encourage you to do that. They got dozens of high-caliber Apologists there. Dili paman ko sweto bro kay estudyante pa lagi
    why there? you're here? you know what,this statement you made implies that you are not ready for battle. your truth cannot stand against scrutiny. i have heard debates of Ravi and most of it are weak.


    ingon ka dili ka accept anah. sagdi lang na ug sayon ra. Ask Ravi Zacharias anything about Christianity.
    my goodness can someone pls help this guy. The rule wasn't written by me but by people who have studied apologetic. you know kini imong Ravi bai himoon man tawn ni nimo og excuse sa imong disability oi. kong mao na bai sige ikaw pangutana lang pod ni Dawkins kong nganong sayop si Ravi.



    hehhe..kasabot ko bro that the Roman Catholic is only covering its true identity, putting a cloak being a "christian" religion. But sa tinuod bro, it is controlled by the Luciferians (freemasons, etc..) Don't you know that the catholic have just announced not long ago about the identity of Lucifer? seems they are going to publicly pronounce that being at the appointed time.
    hahaha, pure non-sense. show me your proof, dali ra man diay ka mailad pod bai, mahimoot man ko nimo oi. since sige ka og accuse ana, its time you show me your proof? basin wa pod kay proof kay FAITH ra pod imong basis.

    kani maoy basihi bro oh para at least makasabot ang mga ignoy ani no offense ha?

    YouTube - ‪Apostolic Teaching - Bro. Gilbert Meņoza - Intro to Lucifer Part1 (1-5) Visayan Version‬‏

    YouTube - ‪Illuminati Freemason III New World Order 2012 Part 1‬‏

    Bear in mind bro nga only those nga nakabalo sa prophecies of the bible about the great tribulation, antichrist,etc. ang nakasabot aning mga butanga.

    YouTube - ‪Daniel 2 #7 The EU Revelation 17 Woman Rides The Beast‬‏
    huWhat? this is your basis? FACEPALM. youtube videos are your basis? you don't even know the guys behind these videos nya motoo ka nila? how gullible can you be? tsk tsk...



    The rest are blinded from the great deception!

    Re:17:4: And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    Re:17:5: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
    sorry bai you haven't proven yet that your bible is the word of God.

  9. #539

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod
    What's the fun with it bro? taas na kayo ang imong huna2 sa imong self bro. Do not think of yourself too highly!

    Proverb:16:18: Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
    oh God, please look yourself in the mirror and say this verse to yourself, okay? I'm simply going with your rhythm. don't blame me if you can't take it.

    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod
    If you'll belive the bible bro, you will never ask that question. Same thing bro if Im going to ask if you really have seen your 5th great, great grandfather. Surely, you cannot prove it cause wala sad ka makaabot niya. But does it mean that he didn't exist?
    did i ask you about Jesus? nope. I was referring to the bible, prove it that's it's the word of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod
    Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever! what he said 2000 yrs ago, is true to things that will happen in the future.
    the question is what kind of Jesus do you have? there is nothing in the bible where Jesus said that he is God.

    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod
    Let's encourage people to search the TRUTH bro.
    but you can't defend your truth, so is it worth believing? nope.

  10. #540

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    What we have here is a never ending stupidity.

    We have "Links", "Verses", "Quotes", and worst stupid people who keeps convincing.

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