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  1. #471

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    naa man kay point bro and I respect that. Lisod lang ayo mo claim nga kita ra gyuy palanga sa Ginoo kay tungod kita Kristiyano. Ing ana man lang gyud grabe ka unfair si God nga kita ra man jug maluwas. Si Jesus niingon man gani sa mga gentile nga siya ray bahala sa pag luwas nila. Pero kung gi view nimo ang Ginoo nga naay boundless love sa ato ngano ibutang man ta niya dayon sa impyerno kung di ta kristiano. Ang Ginoo lahi nato pangutok. KUng ang ginikanan nga tawo maningkamot man gani pag dala sa mga anak nga unta fair how much more ang God nga gi view nato nga supreme being.

    Laktod pag ka istorya ang absolute truth dili nato ma tugkad but ang mga simple nga kamatuoran sa kalibutan, like justice, love, mercy are comprehensible to us di ba.
    Bro laktud pagka istorya, padayon lang kung unsa ang imohang belief about God and salvation. I never said that only we christians ang gipili sa ginoo or maluwas. Dili tanan christians maluwas nor tanan nga dili Christians dili maluwas.

    Fix the gap first between you and God through Jesus Christ. For He is the only one who made that startling claim!

  2. #472

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    I was not given by God the authority to have the absolute answer bro. Jesus knows his sheep and they will hear his voice and will follow him.

    Matubag tingali na nato kung magmeet ta in his kingdom

    Bro nakit an na nimo ang answer.

    Matubag ang ubang question bro but dili ang absolute.
    dili nimo na matubag kay wala ka simbahan nga gi tagaan ug authority ug knowledge. dikubrehe ng simbahan nga gitagaan ug authority ni Jesus through Peter 2000 years ago.

    Hinumdumi Church is not a product from protest but done through primacy of Peter and apostolic succession. Its is not a product of private interpretation of the bible but the authority of the church as shes the bride of Jesus. As what the bible says we are not all teachers, priests, prophets that are authorize to preach. We dont have authority to create a church based on our understanding of the scripture. Learn the history of Christianity and you will not go astray. As what Cardinal Neuman said "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.

    Thanks sa sharing bro. bye

  3. #473

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    naa man kay point bro and I respect that. Lisod lang ayo mo claim nga kita ra gyuy palanga sa Ginoo kay tungod kita Kristiyano. Ing ana man lang gyud grabe ka unfair si God nga kita ra man jug maluwas. Si Jesus niingon man gani sa mga gentile nga siya ray bahala sa pag luwas nila. Pero kung gi view nimo ang Ginoo nga naay boundless love sa ato ngano ibutang man ta niya dayon sa impyerno kung di ta kristiano. Ang Ginoo lahi nato pangutok. KUng ang ginikanan nga tawo maningkamot man gani pag dala sa mga anak nga unta fair how much more ang God nga gi view nato nga supreme being.
    Bro, you misinterpreted Christianity. Our God is a personal God! He is Holy and just.
    Si Satanas bro, nakasala sa ginoo by using his pride, gi cast down siya tungod lang sa usa ka sala. Adam and Eve, they disobeyed the only commandment of God for them ug nawala ang ilang glory nga gihatag sa ginoo. Kita nga descendants of Adam we have that stained blood nga naglatay sa atong lawas and we are bound to sin. If we die and God will judge us, unsa kaha ang iyang judgment for us kung basihan kapila ta nakasala sa iyaha?

    If we try to analyze bro, in the early years of man, God already have the law given to him. Kang Adam ug Eve since they have less knowledge pa about sa nature and the world around them, they were given a very simple law nga makaya ra sad sa ilang development. Dili mohatag ang ginoo ug kalisud sa atua when he tests us. It’s only a matter of obedience to him. Then comes the development of man as years gone by…from simple law he made it 10 commandments to equate man’s capability in order to maintain morality.

    2000 yrs ago, God executed his last and final plan to redeem mankind from his wretchedness. Man in his autonomous and self-centered nature has always tried to transgressed God. Despite of that, God still shows his great love for us. He sent his only begotten Son who was with him since from the beginning. Remember, there already exist communication and affection within the trinity before the creation of the universe. That’s why we long for that unity within us til now. As they say, the greatest search of man in history is the search for Unity in Diversity. Lines I got from one of the brilliant Christian Apologist today.

    With this bro, can man still say that "you are unfair God!" Don't you know that the sacrifice given to us is the one dearest to Him and who lives in eternity? What do you think, still unfair?

    Laktod pag ka istorya ang absolute truth dili nato ma tugkad but ang mga simple nga kamatuoran sa kalibutan, like justice, love, mercy are comprehensible to us di ba.

    Sakto ka bro nga dili jud tinuod matugkad nato its because weve been separated from God since the fall of man. So this means, that ang truth nga imong giila mismo imo sad madudahan kung truth ba jud nah. That’s why Jesus was sent from God who brings the TRUTH in order for us to be reconciled to HIM.

    Just be careful with what you considered as truth. God bless!

  4. #474

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    What's the purpose of Jesus' FIRST AND FOREMOST COMMANDMENT sir? If "belief" is all that is needed for salvation, why are you preaching to people here that already believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus. Then why are you still "sharing"? And since you are so fond of Bible verses, explain this sir:

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matt 8:21-23)

    Where does your claim that "belief in Jesus" fit in with salvation now? Answer me directly. No sidesteps. No beating around the bush. A direct answer sir.


    I agree with your statement bro that our belief in Jesus is needed for our salvation. Let me clarify this. Believing in our mind is different from believing in our heart!

    Believe in the LORD with all your heart…what does it mean? It means to believe him at the very core of our being, our heart is the seat of our emotions and feelings. Once we believe on something and we put our heart to it, everything will follow.

    Yes that verse bro (Matt 8:21-23) points to each one of us who believes the Lord Jesus Christ. What is the will of the Father bro? is it to open your third eye for you to elevate your ego and feel to be like god? Or is it these…

    (John 8:28-29) So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. {29} The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
    (John 14:6-21) Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. {7} If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." {8} Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." {9} Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? {10} Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. {11} Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. {15} "If you love me, you will obey what I command. {21} Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."

  5. #475

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    Believe in the LORD with all your heart…what does it mean? It means to believe him at the very core of our being, our heart is the seat of our emotions and feelings. Once we believe on something and we put our heart to it, everything will follow.
    mao ba ni resulta sa sige'g basa bible?

    bro ang brain is the seat of our emotions and feelings particularly the Hypothalamus

  6. #476

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    mao ba ni resulta sa sige'g basa bible?

    bro ang brain is the seat of our emotions and feelings particularly the Hypothalamus
    YES bro for LUCIFER and the heart is for JESUS!

    That's why you are too much concerned about your enlightenment while Christianity is about forgiveness.

  7. #477

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    YES bro for LUCIFER and the heart is for JESUS!

    That's why you are too much concerned about your enlightenment while Christianity is about forgiveness.
    Again your using Lucifer but you biblicaly you can't link Lucifer to Satan backread ra gud.

    I don't have any problem with forgiveness.The question here is if you don't know basic knowledge like the brain is the seat of our emotion then how much more bible exegesis bro. that's the danger of private interpretation of the bible. got it?

  8. #478

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    Again your using Lucifer but you biblicaly you can't link Lucifer to Satan backread ra gud.

    I don't have any problem with forgiveness.The question here is if you don't know basic knowledge like the brain is the seat of our emotion then how much more bible exegesis bro. that's the danger of private interpretation of the bible. got it?
    I understand bro that you are practicing the occult. It has nothing to do with my salvation. Imoha lang pud nah, i respect you for that.

    The brain is the seat of emotions? sa bagay kay mabuang man ang uban kung buwagan sa uyab, pero ang imong heart maoy ni feel sa sakit bro, nag emote ug dili lang kay ang imong brain. It's more in the heart ang emotive feeling. karon lang na nigawas bro it's because Satan is so wise that he is going to twist immorality into morality. He is so deceitful bro! They controlled the media...pwed jud nila i publish kung unsa ilang gusto i program sa atuang mind.

    Just want to give you an example, ask your parents about the manners that they used to have when they were young and compare it with today. Surely, almost everything has been turned upside down. The things nga ilang nahibaloan nga moral sa una, karon dili na maayo. And vice versa.

    Now, sila nga nakawitness sa ilang panahon ug sa imong panahon karon unsa may ilang masulti about morality? Generally, mas mouyon jud sila sa unang panahon wherein peace, serenity, innocence, love, respect, trust...etc maoy nag reign in the hearts of men. This is because giigo ni Satan bullseye kung asa ta mahulog ug malayo sa presensya sa tinuod nga Ginoo. Ponder on these things....

    Just imagine a man devoid of conscience, love, respect..etc, kung maoy magdaghan sa kalibutan, mag malinawn kaha ta? Kung mas labaw ang intellect and pride ang magdala sa iyaha.

  9. #479

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    I understand bro that you are practicing the occult. It had nothing to do with my salvation. Imoha lang pud nah, i respect you for that.

    Ing -ana ba ang tudlo sa bible nga mo accuse bro nga walay basehan?.

    Bro murag ma correlate nato ang paranoia sa bible fanatics ah.

  10. #480

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    The brain is the seat of emotions? karon lang na nigawas bro it's because Satan is so wise that he is going to twist the morality into immorality. He is so deceitful bro! They controlled the media...pwed jud nila i publish kung unsa ilang gusto i program sa atuang mind.

    wala man koy problema about anang verse sa bible kay puno kaayo ng figures of speech like allegory, hyperbole, antithesis, assonance, metaphor, etc. but mo ingon ka nga ang brain dili maoy seat sa emotion is kahangalan hehhehehehe.

    basically ang heart nag pump ra nag dugo wala nay consciousness. bisag kinsang scientist imo pangutan -on ani bro. remember ang brain naay parts nga para sa ato thirst, *** drive, hunger ug nag control sa endocrine gland mao ng hyphotalamus.

    Sa unang panahon ug karong panahona mao ra ng fact bisan bali balihon ang kalibutan.....
    Kung mag kita mo sa ginoo bro pangutan an sya..heheheheheh

    Kita na nimo nga dili tanan ministro ug kinahanglan naay authority ang bible para epektibo ka nga mosangyaw. bible alone doctrine is erroneous teaching. now kung mag lisod ta sa ginagmay'ng facts how much more ang bible exegesis.

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