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  1. #441

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    @WordofGod

    Only you or God can answer your question Bro! We have to understand that religion or a certain group cannot save you. Jesus Does!

    Only God can answer your question ....bro unya unsa diay ni dili ni answer di ba gi answeran na nimo? tan awa ako gi highight "We have to understand that religion or a certain group cannot save you. Jesus Does

  2. #442

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1 huck View Post
    tungud lagi kay free mu comment2x d na kabalo mu huna hunag tarung ang uban diri sa istorya kung maka insulto ba sila ug lain or dili ba. Feeling nila daghan man gud mukatwa sa ilang gi comment. hahayy ning otok sa uban. sagdi nalang na sila.
    Quote Originally Posted by b1 huck View Post

    By the way ts, d nako ma open ang gi link nimu hehehe.


    Locked nana si TS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLyFZ5QBYuY
    No wonder bro! mao na ang style karon sa mga opposition. They are a worldwide brotherhood and their goal is WORLD DOMINATION! Kung sa prophecy pa, it will be the rise of the Antichrist.


    bisan unsa nalang paagi bah para ma hinder ang progress sa pagsangyaw sa salvation.

    They have all the means to control the media...you can observe that bro in most known websites today. Ang ilang gi-promote are the things nga makapalayo sa atua from the true GOD! They have all these worldly tricks, free seminars, trainings, and other stuffs to divert our worship and attention to the one who is worthy. In the end, mostly will be the losers.

    YouTube - Are We Already in the Last Days? Prophecy Being Fulfilled: "the Little Horn"
    YouTube - ARE WE REALLY LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS? The Biblical Truth Revealed!

    for the muslims...YouTube - Signs of the Last Day

    Honestly bro, I have learned lots of truths in studying the word of God nga wala jud nako masabti sa una. Then makasabot pa jud ta samot sa validity of it kay mismo atong Makita na karon nga nanghitabo…mga current world events like in the middle east which is driven by people behind the scenes. Mga uprisings, turmoil, etc..dili na sya product sa usa ka religious nga tawo and yet kanunay ang religion mahimong biktima, specifically Christians and the muslims. Pero dili jud ka makadungog sa about sa uban religion. Kung dili lang ni tinuod ang mga panghitabo karon, mag doubt pata sa bibliya. But it appears so obvious in our world today! Even in simple example like kung mo search ka about Jesus sa youtube, ang mo appear kay ang mga teachings against him or mga blasphemies...it shows how they control information.

    YouTube - EU Parliament - the new tower of babel


    Since from the beginning bro, Lucifer/ Satan have already in his heart nested the desire to be worshipped.

  3. #443

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    @wordofGod

    Since from the beginning bro, Lucifer/ Satan have already in his heart nested the desire to be worshipped.
    Where can we find in the bible that Lucifer and Satan are one?
    Give me verse in the bible please?

    Only you or God can answer your question Bro! We have to understand that religion or a certain group cannot save you. Jesus Does!

    approximately 9 billion religions don't adhere to the doctrine that Jesus is God and don't believe that he is the only way, truth and life to be saved, if we combined all denominations in the whole world today excluding atheists. Do you think all of these groups will be burned in hell?

  4. #444

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    Kris, ikaw ni? hehehhe...kauban baya ta sa una musta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    @wordofGod

    Where can we find in the bible that Lucifer and Satan are one?
    Give me verse in the bible please?
    Bro same thing sa word nga family, we can never find that in the genesis account (adam and eve) and yet it is believed that they are the first family. Same thing with satan, lucifer and the devil...To summarize it bro, i almost run out of time nah.. but anyhow, i have some excerpts here. Hope makakuha ta idea gamay ani.

    Lucifer was Satan's glorious name before his fall.

    Lucifer was the Anointed Cherub. Anointed means to be set apart for Gods Divine purpose. It also means "bestowal of Gods divine favor", and "appointment to a special place or function."

    God had given Satan a certain amount of power and authority. But he perverted that power. Lucifer wanted to exalt himself above God... rather than "just" being the Angel of God.


    If God is so good, then why did he create Satan?
    Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.
    ( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 )

    Like man, the angels were created perfect, and with a free will.
    Satan was lifted up because of his beauty, he corrupted the wisdom by reason of his brightness (This is in Ezekiel 28:17)

    Ezekiel 28:12 (KJV)
    "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty."
    13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

    This is not an earthly king, as the word "cherub" is only used in references to angels.

    15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."
    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    The word "covering" is from the Hebrew word cakak, and means: to entwine, to fence in, cover over, protect, defend, hedge in, (source "The complete word study Old Testament")
    Was Lucifer’s job to protect the very earth he corrupted? Was this one of his duties that gave him so much pride?

    17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 0 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
    approximately 9 billion religions don't adhere to the doctrine that Jesus is God and don't believe that he is the only way, truth and life to be saved, if we combined all denominations in the whole world today excluding atheists. Do you think all of these groups will be burned in hell?
    Wala man mamugos si Jesus Christ to believe in him bro. He only wanted those people nga magpaubos lang sa ilang self ug gusto ug kalinaw, kalipay nga tinuoray.

    Sa bagay, lisud man jud tinuod ang pagsunod sa Ginoo labi na sa pag follow sa examples ni Christ nga humiliation...but it takes the Holy Spirit to empower us to do such humble tasks.

    M't:7:14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
    M't:11:28: Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

  5. #445

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    My bad. what I mean is approximately 7 -9 billion non -Christians if we combine all denominations.

  6. #446

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    @wordofgod

    Kinsay Kris? dili ko si Kris.

    Kung imo studyhan ang Ezekiel 28:12 dili gihapon klaro nga si Lucifer Satan o devil di ba?

    suportaan pa gyud sa mga verses sa Job 11:17, Job 38:32, Psalm 109:3, Isaiah 14:12, Ecclesiasticus 50:6, Apocalypse 2:28, 2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16, nga si Lucifer with its literal meaning is just "the light of the morning" or a certain Babylonian King. We can't say that lucifer is the devil if we only rely more on the bible as what sola scriptura adherents say because it only denotes state from which he has fallen especially in Ezekiel.

    Anyways this is just to say that the doctrine of bible alone is the sole authority is not reliable doctrine when it comes to christian teaching.

    Kaning doctrinaha apil ang divinity ni Christ or holy trinity lisod i prove using bible alone mao bitaw ning grabe lalis kay daghan ayo dili motuo sa divinity nga imong gikutlo sa bible. Mao bitaw na nga manginahanglan ta ug Magisterium nga mo interpret ani dili lang bible, kay ang church in the first place nakabalo way back sa pag compile sa bible ug sa na andang meaning sa mga concepto nga gibutang sa old version sa bible.

    Look at this proof; ang KJV nga version ulahi na. Tan awa ra gud kining Lucifer literary sa old version is just a morning star which was in Hebrew= helel; Septuagint= heosphoros, Vulgate =lucifer.

    do you think nga ang bag ong naka kupot ug bibiliya makabalo sa simple concept sa una sa Hebrew, Latin, etch? Ang Catholic church nga ni exist 2000 years ago naay knowledge nga gi pass on up to this generation naay taas ug authority ani when it comes to validity. Do you think nga naay authority ang mga bag ong na mugnang simbahan?

    Di ba walay ingong proof aron maka ingon ta nga devil si Lucifer using bible alone doctrine lang yet you believe it?

    di ba questionably ang sola scriptura? kita nimo? How much more ang divinity ni Christ nga halos ang account purely apostolic/oral traditions ra. Mao ni nga dili mahuman ang lalis about holy trinity kay bible alone ra man mag tuyok tuyok wala may igong ika suporta labi na sa historical account. Kay kung mo gamit tag historical account own man halos sa Katoliko. Bisan gani inyo leader nga si Martin Luther admitted that the Bible came from the Church and not the reverse.


    Wala man mamugos si Jesus Christ to believe in him bro. He only wanted those people nga magpaubos lang sa ilang self ug gusto ug kalinaw, kalipay nga tinuoray.

    Do you think nga ang humility exclusive lang sa Christianity?


    M't:7:14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
    M't:11:28: Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    dile directa iang imong pag ingon nga christiano ra ang maluwas pero indirectly yes jud. So naa gyud diay Favoritism ang manluluwas kay Christiano ra man ang pwede maluwas sa kadako sa universe ug kita ra gyud ang ni puyo sa kamatuoran? di ba niingon siya " Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life?


    Humility o pag paubos ba ni nga moingon ta nga kita ra gyuy maluwas while sila mahiagum sa pag antos nga walay katapusan?

  7. #447

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    very nice lyrics..from what song is this?

    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pounding on my brain
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're making me go insane
    Take your knife from my throat
    Get your gun off my back
    Stop taking money from my pocket
    Get your hand off my head
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pushing me around
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're the craziest guy in town
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You come on like a machine
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You just about make me scream

    Well, I'm walking back on down the road
    And ran into a man who looked like a toad
    He wore a giant Colgate toothpaste smile
    And he stared in my eyes for a little while
    Then he shoved a picture of his guru in my face
    And screamed in my ear, "You've got no faith!
    You must fear the Lord!" he said to me
    "Fear the Lord and you'll be free!"
    But when I said I'd just like to be God's friend
    He pulled out his sword to do me in
    Screaming that his God I did offend

    Well, before I knew it, my leg had kicked
    Just like they do in the kung fu flicks
    Well, I left that scene when the crowd screamed
    That a holy man had just been creamed


    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pounding on my brain
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're making me go insane
    Take your knife from my throat
    Get your gun off my back
    Stop taking money from my pocket
    Get your hand off my head
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pushing me around
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're the craziest guy in town
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You come on like a machine
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You just about make me scream


    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pounding on my brain
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're making me go insane
    Take your knife from my throat
    Get your gun off my back
    Stop taking money from my pocket
    Get your hand off my head
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop pushing me around
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're the craziest guy in town
    Take your knife from my throat
    Get your gun off my back
    Stop taking money from my pocket
    Get your hand off my head
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You don't own my soul
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    God's still in control, don't worry!
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You come on like a machine
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You just about make me scream
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    Stop eating out my brain
    Dear fanatic, take it easy
    You're making me go insane

  8. #448

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    i don't see any relevance of quoting verses from the bible to someone who doesn't believe in it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zueKq3z3Sk
    Last edited by malic_2; 05-19-2011 at 10:30 AM.

  9. #449

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhrike View Post
    wala gyuy magdaog aning kahimtanga hahaha...
    Naa unta huwes ari aron mo decide kung kinsay pilde ug kinsay daog. Lisod man kung kita ra ang mag decide sa atong kaugalingon kay pirme man jud ta daog, pirme ta sakto para nato.

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    nice!!! at least makita nato ang katag dinha... kinsay nag patagd lang... ug kinsay tinu-uray...

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