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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    When you say its political dynasty, do not make excuses.  YOu are biased for Gwen. What you are saying is only a perception.  The same thing you said about the Martinezes which is only a perception.
    Its not perception, its quantifying their achievements. I had been coming back and forth to these places for years, have made some studies on environmental and livelihood programs, and have lived on these districts for sometime - enough to make observations on the districts developments. I don't know about you if you have spent sometime in the area for you to even comment about it. It is your opinion that are based on your perception.

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    Perception ra lagi nimo nga walay nahimo ang mga Martinez. Imong panglantaw ba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    Perception ra lagi nimo nga walay nahimo ang mga Martinez. Imong panglantaw ba.
    Like I said, I quantify, based on facts and figures to make conclusions. That is my conclusion not perception, perception is what you think it is without basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    When you say its political dynasty, do not make excuses. YOu are biased for Gwen. What you are saying is only a perception. The same thing you said about the Martinezes which is only a perception.
    <shouts at="istoryador">
    I don't care what the *bleep* is the political dynasty is all about! What I really do care is the INTENT of the public servant.
    </shouts>

    So much for your bitter feelings at Cebu Province, in general. A prime example of crab. And crabs (figurative) are no place in the said province.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    Si kinsa mang ka magbout kung mag deficit ang bag-ong mga probinsya? Wa pa gani masugdi negative na kaayo ka. Theory ra na imo bay ug wa nay kamatooran.
    Ug si kinsa man sad ka nga mag buot nga imong buk-on ang Sugbo? Mas labaw pa na nga theory imoha kay wala pa jud na masugdi ug buak ang Sugbo daghan na kaayo ka ug gisulti!!!

    Imo rang gilamoy ang imong gipang istorya...

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    ang kaning technique ni pareng istoryador kay DIVIDE and CONQUER..once ma divided na ang political scene sa isa ka lugar sayun nalang kaayu mag dominate sa iyang mga amigong NPAs...persepsyon lang pud ni akoa ha =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by captpoloy
    Ug si kinsa man sad ka nga mag buot nga imong buk-on ang Sugbo? Mas labaw pa na nga theory imoha kay wala pa jud na masugdi ug buak ang Sugbo daghan na kaayo ka ug gisulti!!!

    Imo rang gilamoy ang imong gipang istorya...
    Isnt this thread a discussion about Sugbuak even before its realization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    What bank accounts are you talking about? The argument that thsese lawmakers are proposing Sugbuak because they are last termers is silly.

    Bisan pa ug walay sugbuak mag pabilin silang gamhanan sa ilang distrito. They could field their wives, sons, daughters and other relatives and they couls still win.

    Let us look beyond imputing malice on the part of these legislators who propose Sugbuak. For all we know they are really motivated by good intentions.

    Dili lang si Gov. Gwen ang naay monopoly of good intentions with all due respect for her.
    tsk. bai, i came from the town where this proposition was born. i know some of these people personally. oddly though, they are political allies with my relatives. kabantay ka anang smile sa buaya? mao na ilaha. di nalang ko mention ug name kay hasol na. i can't say na maayu gyud si gwen, but this issue motivated with good intentions? lolz!

    power and wealth are never part of good intentions. why would they try to divide cebu when we are better off as one? and majority of the cebuanos dont agree with their proposition.
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    is there any other way to develop the countryside that's basically what the goal of sugbuak is, right? (aside from power)

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlitobagatsing
    is there any other way to develop the countryside that's basically what the goal of sugbuak is, right? (aside from power)
    set for example bro, the mayor of a town is not allied with the governor, unya the governor will try to approach or propose a plan to the mayor since kato nga lugar kay once to nga balwarte sa gov so pinangga ghapon niya ang mga tawo, then ang mayor kay taas ug garbo kay napilde man iyang manok unya madala ghpon sa pamulitika sa iyang master nga kaatbang sa governor, so its either modeny sya sa help or ang governor mapul-an. then maong mapabayaan ang lungsod.

    a nothern town in cebu was supposed to have a million budget road-repair program and a project construction for a sports gym, as planned by the governor. but suddenly, the mayor turned the offer off and proceeded to the offer the 'rival' proposed. the result? sumpaki gyud ug sakto.

    grabe naman gani kaau ang boundary sa politica nga united pa ang cebu, unsa na kaha kung mabuak, mag-iyahay nalang ta ug linya sa atong teritoryo nga naa ra sa usa ka yuta?

    and it will take years and years before the target areas to prosper. mao ra gyud na akong masulti. depende nasad na sa crabs kung moreply sila ani.
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