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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Are you serious?
    Mao to imong tubag?

    Walay fact ato bai. puro ra to hunahuna nimo.
    1100 degrees , dugmuka osa ang concrete nga gaputos sa stell frames osa nimo maabot ang steel frame. unsaon nimog dugmok sa concrete? kung wala kay explosives. o basin lanayon na sad nimo ang concrete at 1100 degrees.

    kasabot kag "heat sink effect"?

    bisan unsa pa kainit sa fire nimo (binisay-on na lang nako para kasabot jud ka)
    dili malanay ang metal kay ipasa ra niya ang heat ngadto sa tibuok niya nga structure.
    Mao nay quality sa steel. iya rang i-conduct ang heat ngadto sa iyang kinatibuk-an nga mass.
    Mao nay "heat sink effect".
    So walay posibilidad nga malanay ang mga steel frame kung fuel lang sa jetliner ang pasigahon.

    mao bitaw nga kung tan-awon nimo sa history sa mga buildings nga nangasunog, walay usa nga nahugno sama sa WTC. never in history of fires nga nacollapse ang whole structure. usually ang core columns ang magpabiling magbarug. Bisan pila ka adlaw pa nagpadayon og siga ang fire.
    Who said nalanay ang steel or concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Those are the FACTS. Look it up.

    If you can't accept the FACTS, as you've always demonstrated in this thread, then what's the use for continuing this 9/11 discussion? You've presented your "claim", I've debunked them, you don't accept it---so what's the sense? Mag tuyok-tuyok na lang ta?
    Asa ang facts diha?

    Steel melts at 2000 to 2500 degrees F. (depending on the quality of steel)
    And melting point at 2500 is not attainable in open air.
    In open air combustion fuel fire only reaches the temp of 800 to 1200 degrees F.
    That's the fact.

    Again those columns are wrapped in concrete.
    So the more you needed additional heat and additional time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Who said nalanay ang steel or concrete?
    unsaon nimo pagweaken ang stucture kung dili nimo lanayon ang steel?

    again, sa heat sink effect----
    dili kalusot imong fire melt steel argument.

    mao nay report gisubmit sa 911 commission, pero ilang gi-omit. wala gamita.
    dili na ako nga findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Who said nalanay ang steel or concrete?
    unsaon nimo pagweaken ang stucture kung dili nimo lanayon ang steel?

    again, sa heat sink effect----
    dili kalusot imong fire melt steel argument.

    mao nay report gisubmit sa 911 commission, pero ilang gi-omit. wala gamita.
    dili na ako nga findings.

    Naa pa jud kay "trapped air produced the dust"
    ..toinks! asa tawn na gikan?.

    @Pinoy_09
    I know sarado na imong hunahuna.
    Adto na lang ta mag-estorya kung mahibaw-an na sa tanang tawo ang tinuod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Asa ang facts diha?

    Steel melts at 2000 to 2500 degrees F. (depending on the quality of steel)
    And melting point at 2500 is not attainable in open air.
    In open air combustion fuel fire only reaches the temp of 800 to 1200 degrees F.
    That's the fact.

    Again those columns are wrapped in concrete.
    So the more you needed additional heat and additional time.
    Again, who said the collapse was caused by melted steel? Don't put words in my mouth, Doc. You're accusing me of saying something I never even said. I doubt you took the time to read my post.

    You failed to consider that the Jet fuel was the ignition source and the heat was intensified by the combustible materials inside the building. When you have INTENSE HEAT plus exposed steel frames, unsay resulta? Mu insist gihapon ka nga dili mu collapse ang building? How would you know for sure that the building could withstand intense heat? Has there been an experiment wherein the engineers/architects tried to hit the building with a jetliner going in excess of 500 miles/hr to see if the building would stand? Wala diba?

    unsaon nimo pagweaken ang stucture kung dili nimo lanayon ang steel?
    Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F. It doesn't need to attain melting point at 2750°F to lose its strenght. And you call yourself an expert?




    Last edited by pinoy_09; 05-17-2011 at 03:26 AM.

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    the transfer of heat pinoy_69. mao nay sugdi ug tuki anang heat sink effect. basin magpataka na lang sad ka'g yaw-yaw dha. unsa ba gud diay imong nahibalo-an anang strength of materials, engineering mechanics ug thermodynamics? sulti lang, kay aron ma-gauge ta ka kung asa ko dapit gami ug laymen's term. olrayts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Naa pa jud kay "trapped air produced the dust"
    ..toinks! asa tawn na gikan?.
    ahahaha, grabe na jud tingali ni ka-advance iya mathematics ug eng'g subjects Doc. wa sad ko kasugat ana.
    Basin trapped gases produce/cause explosion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Again, who said the collapse was caused by melted steel? Don't put words in my mouth, Doc. You're accusing me of saying something I never even said. I doubt you took the time to read my post.

    You failed to consider that the Jet fuel was the ignition source and the heat was intensified by the combustible materials inside the building. When you have INTENSE HEAT plus exposed steel frames, unsay resulta? Mu insist gihapon ka nga dili mu collapse ang building? How would you know for sure that the building could withstand intense heat? Has there been an experiment wherein the engineers/architects tried to hit the building with a jetliner going in excess of 500 miles/hr to see if the building would stand? Wala diba?

    Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F. It doesn't need to attain melting point at 2750°F to lose its strenght. And you call yourself an expert?




    even if it losses 50 percent of its strength,
    by design the whole load is distributed to the rest of the designed structure.
    which is designed to hold 200 percent of the load above it.

    so,
    50 percent of 200 percent
    is still hundred percent.

    Wala gihapoy lusot ni nga argument.

    Sa bukid siguro pwede pa ni kalusot.

    pero dili ta makaingon nga mga americano wala kasabot ani.
    nakasabot sila pero in denial lang sila kay grabe ang chaos nga mahitabo kung maproven nga mao ni gibuhat sa ilang gobyerno nila.

    expose steel frames?
    asa man kag exposed steel frames ?
    nga ang mga steel frame nga wala giputos sa concrete
    giputos man sad og asbestos foam.
    asbestos is a fire retardant.

    wala gihapon ni lusot nga argument pinoy_09.

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    ^
    No need to argue Doc, nisamot nuon akong pagtuo nga demolition tong nahitabo.

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    Ok para maklaro jud ang tanan about 911

    follow this site.

    mas completo ilang illustrations and explaination

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