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  1. #381

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    Quote Originally Posted by flopars View Post
    basta for me,

    live your life as a christian life,
    live your life in a RIGHT way, right way can only be define by ourselves, what matter is the right way we consider cannot ruin our life in the future and other's life as well.

    Jesus Christ in christian..
    St. Isa in muslim...
    Yeshua in hebrew/jews

    many names but one thing is for sure, his traits/his character, what he did is what matters most.
    I think no one knows what GOD really up to. What we know is that we live it in our FAITH.

    FAITH ang bida..
    Faith is nothing if you dont know who you believed in.

  2. #382

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Its a Joke.

    but my answer is Why Should I?

    Jesus already know that Judas will betray Him Not because Jesus forced Judas to betray him but he knows all our hearts and he already know that Judas was capable of doing so if someone offered him money.

    bitaw, this also reminds me atong fisherman nga bisag ni patoo siya nga e sabwag ang pokot para makakuhag isda kay mao man ingun sa ginoo, pero in his heart nagduha duha siya kung tinuod ba ang gi sulti sa ginoo. And then pagka kita niya nga napuno sa isda iyang pukon, he cried and ask forgiveness sa ginoo. And jesus knows nga naay doubt ang fisherman sa sugo niya.

  3. #383

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    Lawgaw naman ni imoha dok. ako nalay sabot nimo kay moulbo nya nang kaspa sa imong ulo joke ra dokie ha.

    here you go again. this is a poor exegesis of that verse i quoted from the book of Samuel. ka klaro ato, gikan ang evil spirit sa ginoo nga nisulod ni Samuel. focus on that verse bai og ayaw og lihay lihay. Asa gikan ang evil spirit? according sa verse FROM GOD. nya imo pa gyud pangitaan og losot?
    again, wrong interpretation bro! so meaning, pwed ra jud diay magbuhat ug evil? no wonder why nagkaanam namo ug kasingyalan! Lisud na dok kung mao na inyong justification in doing evil. Imagina lang gud na imong concept sa ginoo...pwed dautan, pwede maayo. Murag naay deperensya ang imong paghunahuna about ana!


    tungod sa imong incapacity bisan asa na lang abot imong justification, abot na kang lucifer nga ginoo kono nako? hahaha, kinsa gud tawn ga ingon nimo nga ako ng ginoo? nya di lang kay ako ang oban pod nga mga members imo pod gi pangtawag og mga luciferian, delikado na brad. morag naay ni loag sa imong otok.
    Ai na pagtolerate ug debate sa mga elementary diri dokie. mawala kay buot anah! leave us alone...post lang sad ug imoha diha.

    sa akong elementary ideas and incapacity, murag wala jud ka mahimutang, naglain jud imong tiyan...hahahha! Mao rani ginoo nga nag-alindasay
    J Dokie, sit back and relax…ingatan mo yung puso moh.

    mao nay akong biliban nimo dok, kay makabalo jud ka kung nay luag ang pangutok bahJ, ginoo na jud imong level…dina ka ma-reach!

    hinoon ana man gyud mo tanang di myembro sa inyong Religion o gropo kay mga anak ni satanas. tsk tsk.
    Diin ka kabasa ana Dok? naay kuwang imong thinking dokie.

    me summoning demonic beings? hahahaha. sakit man pod akong tiyan og katawa nimo oi. pa check up sa bai. ako pa nimo hononga na imong pagka fundamentalist haron way samok diri sa istorya.net kay ako ra ba andam og tagana kaayo ko mo supak sa mga views sa mga fundamentalists.
    Sige paka katawa ron Dok? Lisud raba na kung nay makakita nimo diha…. laughter is good to your health but ai lang kayo palabi. bisan pa ug hunungon nako ug yagyag imong belief bro, dili gihapon malinaw kay dili ra ako ang fundamentalist christian diri. Binayran diay ka sa istorya para pag maintain sa kalinaw?

    Dokie, i want you to know that the spiritual war dugay na kayo ni. bisan pa ug andam kag tagana, dili gihapon ni masulbad unless the Lord Jesus Christ will come and judge this world. Sa bagay, lain sad imong teaching ani...di jud magdaug dok. But you need to know that the battle has been won already...in the cross of Christ! panglawgaw nalang nang imoha. kana gud masuko ka mabisto...mao nay dakong pangutana.

    dili intention? ikaw ga una una ani, abli ka og mga threads nga kabalo ka sensitive kaayo nya imo ipagawas nga ikaw ray sakto nya kami sayop. nya kong e check naka masoko ayun ka. nya kami na hinoon ang dautan? kong mokatawa ta ma wa na diay atong boot ana? hahaha. kataw.onon man gud pod kaayo imong palosot gud. kanang pagka agresibo nako bai mogawas ra pod na kong akong ka atbang mga fundies.
    Hello dokie, we have the right to tell the world about the truths of Jesus as well as you have the right also to spread your deception to blind the masses from the truth. both our claims we considered as truth, yagyag lang diha. walay nagpugong nato diri...

    but y man ma-offend ka if mahibaloan ang inyong luciferian belief? insakto man kaha na para nimo...share it publicly!

    ai palabi ipaubos imong level kay naa na baya ka sa mga gods and goddesses. Mura ka ug kengkoy if sige ka katawa diha. Ginoo raba ka! Act like a god.

    wa gyud koy gi interpret bai, ako ra gi based sa verse. ikaw kay imo gyud pangitaan og losot mao ng moabot gyud sa twisting.
    Ang mo twist dok kanang mga opposition sa bibliya.

    unsay you cannot find purpose and meaning? judgmental ra pod ka kaayo bai. ayaw ko isolod sa imong box kay i have my own life. ka malipayon nako sa akong mga beliefs karon. kanang evil bai extreme point na siya sa good. God can be both personal and impersonal.

    lisod gyud kay mapapas mo.
    kasabot ko dok nga naa sad moy purpose and meaning…to annihilate those people nga wala pa mo evolve sama ninyo. Dili ka masulod sa box dok, bartolina tingali pwede.

    Parehas tingali tanan tawo malipayon kung insakto atong pagtuo. Pero ang problema lang kay mahadlok ka mo present sa imong insakto…J

    Hhehehe…ai lang ni i-take personal tanan Dok ha? Exchanging of views lang gud. Im still learning pa sad nuon…may ka diha kay doctorate naka then ginoo pa judJ


    Mapapas? Diha ka nagdahum dok...paningkamot sa mo ug pangilad maayo, underground

  4. #384

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    my last share ani nga thread...to christians here, be strong in the Lord for we know that the day of Christ is approaching!

    YouTube - Ravi Zacharias many religions claiming to be the true path
    YouTube - Live for ETERNITY - Paul Washer - www.ILLBEHONEST.com

    To Pant for Knowledge

    Among my toughest audiences in apologetics are undoubtedly my two little boys. From the time words started forming on their lips, questions of various kinds have been a staple around our home—the most formidable one being, "Why, daddy?" More than any other of our appetites, I strongly suspect that thirst for knowledge and the occasional thrill of discovery have played the greatest role in shaping history. From the vast machinery of the news media to the intricate systems of the educational enterprise, from specialized research institutions to the multifaceted world of religious devotion, human hunger for knowledge is the oil that greases the mill of civilization.

    So pervasive is this drive for knowledge that it can become an end in itself, opening up a rudderless detour along even the journey to God. This is true in religious systems that claim knowledge for a select few, with secretly guarded rituals forever hidden from the uninitiated. Gnosticism, from the Greek word gnosis, which means knowledge, was built upon the premise that there exists a category of knowledge privileged to a select few. Most Eastern religions insist that the problem with humanity is not sin but ignorance; hence, their solution to the human predicament is enlightenment, not forgiveness. Similarly, scientific naturalism stakes its fortunes on the bare, cold facts of particles and quarks; to know them is to know ultimate reality—never mind the minor detail that, logically, there is a gaping missing link between knowing how something works and the conclusion that it was not made.

    But according to the Bible, at the end of our incessant pursuit of knowledge lies a Person, not an ideology or impersonal reality. God is not only the beginner of all that is; God has also revealed Himself in the earthliest of terms. Jesus was born in circumstances accessible to the lowliest of the shepherds as well as to the most majestic of kings. He spoke to large crowds in public places and was crucified outside the city walls, thereby silencing forever the voices of self-appointed guardians of alleged esoteric knowledge. In biblical terms, no pursuit of knowledge is ever complete without the discovery of him who is the Truth; to know him is to know not only ultimate reality but also ourselves.

    For the Christian, then, it is a solemn thought to remember that reducing apologetics to a contest in the abstract can actually keep us from knowing God. Determined to demonstrate the consistency of our beliefs, we can easily find ourselves on endless rabbit trails—pursuing every form of ism, striving to tie each and every loose end in our belief system, finding comfort when we succeed and frustration when we fail—all the time unaware of the beckoning arms of our loving Father who is Himself the treasure we so diligently seek and hope to show others. Like Jewish leaders of old who diligently searched the scriptures but failed to recognize the one to whom they point when he stood before them in human flesh, we can perfect the art of dissecting biblical and philosophical truths with little progress in our knowledge of God—so enamored with the map that we never take a step towards the destination. As C.S. Lewis observes, "There have been men before now who got so interested in proving the existence of God that they came to care nothing for God Himself...as if the good Lord had nothing to do but exist!"(1)

    The God we meet in apologetics is mostly a subject to be studied, a case to be argued, a conclusion to be drawn—a far cry from the God who has revealed Himself both in the Scriptures and ultimately in the Person of Jesus Christ. When the pursuit of knowledge becomes an end in itself, the conclusions we accept are decidedly driven by our most cherished passions. Just as it is possible to pursue knowledge simply to satisfy our belief in God without much concern for God Himself, it is also possible to seek it passionately precisely because we disbelieve in God. Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: In our thirst for knowledge, "intent is prior to content."(2) Our finitude guarantees that there will always be gaps in our knowledge which only omniscience can fill, but God has put enough content in the world to satisfy any honest intent to find Him.

    Is it pointless then to pant for knowledge? Far be it from me to suggest such a thing! This very piece of writing is an attempt to convey knowledge! And, besides, "It is God's privilege to conceal things and the king's privilege to discover them" (Proverbs 25:2, NLT). Whenever I am tempted to disparage the passion for painstaking attention to the seemingly minutiae, I am reminded of the faithful souls who have labored for years to sift through ancient manuscripts and translate them into a language that I can read. We are all beneficiaries of the dedication of others in almost all areas of our lives. Worshiping at the altar of ignorance is no more pious than worshipping at the altar of mental abundance. But those whose pursuit of Truth is infused with the purity of spirit discover that, all along, the Father has been seeking such to worship Him.(3)

    J.M. Njoroge , RZIM.

  5. #385

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Lawgaw naman ni imoha dok…this will be my last response. ako nalay sabot nimo kay moulbo nya nang kaspa sa imong ulo joke ra dokie ha.

    kalma lang bai morag ni olbo naman ka og ona,dungan unta ta. ayaw pag una una.



    again, wrong interpretation bro! so meaning, pwed ra jud diay magbuhat ug evil? no wonder why nagkaanam namo ug kasingyalan! Lisud na dok kung mao na inyong justification in doing evil. Imagina lang gud na imong concept sa ginoo...pwed dautan, pwede maayo. Murag naay deperensya ang imong paghunahuna about ana!
    hahaha, kanusa gud tawn ko nag imply nga kato nga verse gives anyone the license to do evil? basaha og osab ra gud. magpa sweto sweto man gud ka nya tikayang diay kaayo mo interpret. ang imong bible ga sulti ana nga gikan sa Ginoo ang EVIL spirit nga niabot ni Saul, basaha ba ayaw og likay likay. nya kinsa pod gasulti nimo nga mao na ang concept nako sa ginoo nga puede daotan puede maayo,asa nako na gisulti? ayaw kalagot bai kay di ka maka focus og tarong. kalma lang. osbon ko ha,imong bible gasulti nga gikan ang EVIL spirit sa Ginoo nga niabot kang Saul. diha focus ayaw ka ratol.

    lisod dawatun nga feeling sa nga sweto na kaayo ka ba nya sayop diay ka,ako pa nimo hunong na anang bisyoha nga mo ari ka diri thinking nga ikaw ray sakto. pila ka thread imong gibuhat og pila ka account imong gigamit haron lang to prove nga sayop mi? nya ang tinood diay ikaw maoy angayan todloan.


    Ai na pagtolerate ug debate sa mga elementary diri dokie. mawala kay buot anah! leave us alone...post lang sad ug imoha diha.
    ngano gud tawn ma way boot. ang maestro nga motodlo og estusdyante sa ilang sayop wa nay boot? na wa naman imong logic oi.

    sa akong elementary ideas and incapacity, murag wala jud ka mahimutang, naglain jud imong tiyan...hahahha! Mao rani ginoo nga nag-alindasay
    J Dokie, sit back and relax…ingatan mo yung puso moh.

    wa gyud tawn ko ma bother anang imong ideas. ang ako lang is akong e defend akong mga ideas. abi pa lang sakto naka. ti-aw mo na nga mo adto mo sa impyerno kong di mi motoo sa imong bibliya? hahahaha.

    mao nay akong biliban nimo dok, kay makabalo jud ka kung nay luag ang pangutok bah
    J, ginoo na jud imong level…dina ka ma-reach!
    obvious kaayo bai oi di na kinahanglan og superpowers to know kong loag ba imong otok o dili. pila ka thread imong gibuhat para e preach imong pagtoo? nya kong mo disagree nimo ang tao, mo agresibo ra ba dayun ka. mao ng atbangan pod ka og agresibo. taste your own medicine ba. gets?


    Diin ka kabasa ana Dok? naay kuwang imong thinking dokie.
    gosto ka makabalo? ari diris balay naa pakoy mga libro nga sinuwat sa mga fundamentalists nga pareho nimo.


    Sige paka katawa ron Dok? Lisud raba na kung nay makakita nimo diha…. laughter is good to your health but ai lang kayo palabi.
    bisan pa ug hunungon nako ug yagyag imong belief bro, dili gihapon malinaw kay dili ra ako ang fundamentalist christian diri. Binayran diay ka sa istorya para pag maintain sa kalinaw?
    ok ra man nikatawa man pod akong mga kaoban diri pagbasa nila sa imong pagka sweto.
    volunteer ra ko bai. tigbalantay ko samga fundamentalist kay kuyaw kaayo mo oi, kamo ra pirmi sakto. di ra ba mo maminaw og rason.

    Dokie, i want you to know that the spiritual war dugay na kayo ni. bisan pa ug andam kag tagana, dili gihapon ni masulbad unless the Lord Jesus Christ will come and judge this world. Sa bagay, lain sad imong teaching ani...di jud magdaug dok. But you need to know that the battle has been won already...in the cross of Christ! panglawgaw nalang nang imoha. kana gud masuko ka mabisto...mao nay dakong pangutana.
    spiritual war? hahahaha,naunsa naka diha? unay spiritual war ba oi? aguy loag gyud.


    Hello dokie, we have the right to tell the world about the truths of Jesus as well as you have the right also to spread your deception to blind the masses from the truth. both our claims we considered as truth, yagyag lang diha. walay nagpugong nato diri...
    sure sure,tell it preach it but ayaw lang kasoko kong naay mosopak. gosto man gud mo nga way mosopak ninyo. kay you have the truth gud so dapat di namo e question kay truth gud ng inyong gikuptan. nagyagyag bitaw ko.

    but y man ma-offend ka if mahibaloan ang inyong luciferian belief? insakto man kaha na para nimo...share it publicly!
    ma offend? imo ra ng huna huna oi. maayo kaayo ka pagka brainwash sa.

    ai palabi ipaubos imong level kay naa na baya ka sa mga gods and goddesses. Mura ka ug kengkoy if sige ka katawa diha. Ginoo raba ka! Act like a god.
    oi imo diay pugngan akong kalipay? hahahahaha. ka kill joy gyud ani nila oi. act like a god? you mean sending evil spirit? or sending armies to kill innocent children?


    Ang mo twist dok kanang mga opposition sa bibliya.
    dili tanan oi. kay naay oban nga tungod sa ka bright hastang sayon ra nga verse sa bible e twist pa gyud to serve his own bias.

    kasabot ko dok nga naa sad moy purpose and meaning…to annihilate those people nga wala pa mo evolve sama ninyo. Dili ka masulod sa box dok, bartolina tingali pwede.
    aw ok so ayaw ko isulod sa imong bartolina. purpose to annihilate? hahahaha. unsa naman ni oi? ka creepy ba nimo. ayaw padala anang naa sa youtube bai, paghunahuna sab panagsa.

    Parehas tingali tanan tawo malipayon kung insakto atong pagtuo. Pero ang problema lang kay mahadlok ka mo present sa imong insakto…
    J
    tawn pod. di ba gi ingnan naman ka nako nga pang doctorate ning amoa? graduate sa lagi para matudloan ka. di man na kay nahadlok but bcos di paka ready.

    Hhehehe…ai lang ni i-take personal tanan Dok ha? Exchanging of views lang gud. Im still learning pa sad nuon…may ka diha kay doctorate naka then ginoo pa jud
    J
    wa man kaha ka masoya nga ginoo ko nya doctorate pa gyud?


    Mapapas? Diha ka nagdahum dok...paningkamot sa mo ug pangilad maayo, underground
    ka inosente gyud nimo.
    Last edited by malic_2; 05-13-2011 at 02:47 PM.

  6. #386

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    we should not hate Judas. Jesus had the power to stop him but he didn't.

  7. #387

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    we should not hate Judas. Jesus had the power to stop him but he didn't.
    We did Not hate Judas, we just believed that what he did was wrong.

    Yes, Jesus have all the power to stop Judas But he wouldn't - and the answer is Freedom, freedom to choose...

  8. #388

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    Jesus, may be or may not be the messiah but his teachings are worth to follow.. Mangutana lang ko, ngano naa man daghan mga tao nga maghimo og grupo nga against kay Jesus or make fun of him?? ngano wala (or basin naa pero gamay lang) man naghimo og mga grupo nga against kay Mohammad or make fun of him??

  9. #389

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    We did Not hate Judas, we just believed that what he did was wrong.

    Yes, Jesus have all the power to stop Judas But he wouldn't - and the answer is Freedom, freedom to choose...
    believe it or not some people likes to hate Judas for betraying Jesus and that previous post of mine where i said "don't hate Judas" was intended for them.

    are you familiar with the story of Jonas? the guy that got stuck inside the belly of the whale? you know the story right? this guy went the other way instead of going to Nineveh. Now, God according to the bible did strange things to make this guy realized his mistakes. In other words there was divine intervention,very lucky guy. But Judas never had that chance,poor guy. what do you think? and now people hates everything about him.

  10. #390

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    well, i stand corrected...not everyone hates Judas...
    YouTube - Lady Gaga - Judas

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