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    Default The "11" Phenomena



    I got this from an email....kaka-taas balahibo oi.

    )1 New York City has 11 letters.

    2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

    3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

    4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

    This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

    1) New York is the 11th state.

    2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.

    3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

    4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11

    5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

    6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

    Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

    1) The total number of victims inside all the hi- jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

    2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

    3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

    4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

    Now this is where things get totally eerie:

    The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

    "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

    That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

    Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

    Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

    1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

    2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

    3. Change the font size to 48.

    4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

    What do you think now?!!


    KILABOT NOH?

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    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    Actually po, what I think is this quotation...

    "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life DOUBT, as far as possible, ALL THINGS." René Descartes, Discours de la Methode 


    Quote Originally Posted by d`monyita
    I got this from an email....kaka-taas balahibo oi. 

    The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

    "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

    That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.
    I've been recently striving to be a student of religious scripture, since in my childhood I was an avid reader of the Christian Bible. Now I'm reading through the Muslim Qu'ran and I've already reached chapters 10 and 11. Unlike the Bible which is divided into books, the Qu'ran is a religious tome divided into 114 chapters(numbered from 1 to 114) containing 6236 verses.

    If my memory serves me correctly, I believe chapter 9 verse 11 says something else. I had to confirm my suspicion going on to my favorite Qu'ran research websites and the actual text is about REPENTANCE...

    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.

    For your knowledge ho.

    "The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution." — Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 


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    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    Dugay dugay na pud baya ni na email. As always like most hoax, this one's refuted by hoax-slayer.com here:
    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/wingdings-911.html

    Commentary:
    This absurd email forward combines three earlier hoaxes that have been circulating in one form or another for several years.

    The message first draws attention to the high number of "elevens" that can be derived from names or elements pertaining to the September 2001 attacks on the United States. It then discusses a verse supposedly taken from the Quran that seems to predict The US involvement in Iraq. Finally, it claims that the flight number of one of the 9/11 planes shows a pictorial representation of the attack on the Twin Towers when converted to the "Wingdings" font in Microsoft Word. As discussed below, all three of these claims are unfounded.

    The continued recurrence of the number eleven in relation to 9/11 may seem to have some weird relevance at first glance. However, it is easy to manipulate the details of an event so that an apparent numerical pattern emerges. There are many other 9/11 elements that have no relation to the number 11. For example, "World Trade Center", "Twin Towers", "Osama Bin Laden", "American Airlines," "United Airlines" and a great many other 9/11 related items do not add up to the number eleven. In fact, hundreds of items could be legitimately included on such a list, the majority of which have no "eleven" connection. In other words, the person who created this "elevens" list carefully chose only those 9/11 related items that fit the pattern and discarded all others.

    Furthermore, the hoaxster is apparently quite willing to bend the truth to fit the story. Flight 77 was carrying 64 people not 65 as claimed in the email. The message also claims that Flight 77 hit the Twin Towers. However, Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, not the World Trade Center.

    In addition, the email states that the "total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254". However, this is untrue. Various reliable sources concur that the total number of people on the hijacked planes was 265 (see Data Table below). If you subtract the 19 hijackers, the total number of victims on the planes (passengers and crew) was 246 not 254. Neither 265 nor 246 add up to eleven.

    Thus, claims of some supernatural association between the terrorist attacks and the number 11 are blatantly contrived and highly misleading.

    The second part of the message claims that Chapter 9 Verse 11 (9.11) of the Islamic holy book the Quran contains a startling prophecy presumably related to the US invasion of Iraq. However, research indicates that the quoted verse does not appear in the Quran at all. Chapter 9 Verse 11 of the Quran is concerned with repentance and charity. Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation Of The Holy Qur'an, records Verse 11 as:

    But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.
    Other translations may differ slightly in wording but carry essentially the same message. None make mention of the "wrath of the Eagle" or any other elements contained in the "verse" quoted in the message.

    The Quran "verse" has also circulated as a separate message with the following description:

    This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
    The final part of this hoax email claims that changing "Q33 NY" to the Wingdings symbol font in Microsoft Word will reveal a hidden message directly related to the 9/11 attack on the twin towers. Q33 NY rendered in Wingdings is:


    Certainly, this combination of symbols is likely to make even the most cynical readers do a double take when they first observe it. However, a minimal amount of research reveals that the Wingdings claim is based on an outrageous lie and therefore has no validity what so ever. None of the planes involved in the 9/11 attacks had the flight number "Q33 NY". The flight numbers of the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers were in fact "11" and "175". Clearly, someone has simply made up this supposed flight number in an attempt to make the spurious claim seem valid. In an absurd twist, the current version of the hoax actually contradicts itself. One part of the message states, "The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11." Later in the same message it states "Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers."

    Some have claimed that "Q33 NY" was actually the tail or registration number of one of the planes. However, this is also untrue. The actual tail number of Flight 11 was "N334AA". Nor did any of the other hijacked aircraft have the registration number "Q33 NY" (see Data Table below). Searches of the Federal Aviation Administration website afforded no results for "Q33 NY". In fact, most civil aircraft registrations in the United States start with the letter "N" and nationality and registration markings are commonly referred to as "N-Numbers".

    Flight and tail numbers aside, the Star of David in the Wingdings "message" has little relevance to 9/11 since the attacks were not perpetrated by or directed at those of Jewish faith. This hoax actually builds on a foolish conspiracy theory involving Wingdings that goes back as far as 1992. Typing "NYC" ("New York City") in Wingdings reveals a skull and crossbones symbol, the Star of David, and a thumbs up symbol. This has been interpreted by some conspiracy-theorists as a deliberate anti-Semitic message. Microsoft has denied that this arrangement of symbols is anything more than an unfortunate coincidence.

    In short, this email message is a load of baloney and it should not be forwarded. Hoaxes that perpetrate falsehoods about real terrorist attacks are especially heinous. One wonders at the mentality, and motives, of the imbeciles who create hoaxes of this nature. This hoax message dishonours the memory of those who lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks. Please do not forward it.


    9/ll Data Table
    Airline and Flight Number Tail Number Total # People Onboard # Hijackers
    American Airlines Flight 11 N334AA 92 5
    United Airlines Flight 175 N612UA 65 5
    American Airlines Flight 77 N644AA 64 5
    United Airlines Flight 93 N591UA 44* 4
    Total: 265 19

    * Some reports put the number of people on Flight 93 at 45. According to Wikipedia, one passenger may have booked two seats, which caused some early confusion over the actual number of passengers.

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    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    11..

    11...

    11....

    Sheer coincidence..?!

    yes, it is..

  5. #5

    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    mao bah??
    naay explanation behind this??
    nganung 11 man??

  6. #6

    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    weird indeed, gives me d creeps

  7. #7

    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    i tot 11 refers to the two towers

    1 1st tower 1 2nd tower

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    Hmmm interesting. I think even if the culprit is lying we still have to realize that mathematics is very important in life. Even to the earliest times and wars they use mathematics for precision or calculation. Computers, machines, currency nagbaha ang mathematics. It's not a strange thing if somebody somehow made emphasis over the 11 number after the 9/11 attacks in New York.

    In fact lately, there are already a couple of controversies, hidden codes in the bible, still mathematics... coz they use patterns to read them.

    I am not a math geek but I know to them everything in life includes numbers.

    Even the sign of the devil "666" are numbers. Thus I say, bisan hinimo ra kaha niya ang numbers, still... it's one thing we need to be critical about, especially events. Geniuses usually say something to mean another thing. Military uses codes am sure terrorists do. Sahay kanang pagka oplok sa mga genius nagtuo tang complicated kaayo ug mga strategies and unpredictable wa diay ta kebaw wingdings ilang gi trippan. I'ts not impossible. Kinsa may nag-expect?

    What if the what we thought is mere coincidence was used by the terrorists?

    Actually NYC in wingdings means... a skull (means death).... a star (star of Judaism - refers to religion) and a thumbs up icon.... means ok.

    "Death to Jews, OK"

    Still I say this is nothing ridiculous. Math-weapon-makes sense to me.


    P.S. mathematics is the universal language which means sa whole universe lol kay universal man. But true.

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    yup i agree with you nene.. this for me is pure "coincidence".. we use mathematics in daily life.. with all those "math geeks" around, they can always come up with a formula that would make people think "oh, that's weird, etc.."

    ..this isn't something new for me.. like you said, codes are used.. codes are codes..

    who made codes? people made the codes..

    ..if we can play with words, sure we can play with numbers too.. :mrgreen:

  10. #10

    Default Re: NEW YORK CITY has 11 letters

    mao na sulti: number 11 is a "malas" number

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