Gigabyte and Asus P965 chipsets support Penryn 45nm

[brown_dog]

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Asus P5B and Cammando Series:
http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev. 3.3
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article752-page1.html

With a little oc and a Bios update P965 chipsets are good to go with the New Penryns.

It also depends if the motherboard brand makes an update with their P965 boards.

[muzikfreakah]

Very Good news, and I though by mid this year I would need to change chipset nasad , I guess my P5B Deluxe has a long way to go pa

[EarlZ]

The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev. 3.3 isnt out yet and i dont see any point in buying that over the existing x38/x45 chipsets

As you would say

those are pre historic chipsets

[muzikfreakah]

Yup they are pre-historic lolz, but they were all just released early last year I think. Well thats technology for you, bites you in the ars!
But the good thing is, atleast it gives us P965 users a chance to upgrade to the latest processor, it wont be DDR3, but it should be good enough

[brown_dog]

Its because Intel is releasing too many chipsets with very minimal changes, so that consumers will upgrade every now and then.

This just shows how overclockable and reliable the P965 chipset is. They are virtually the same with the P35 accept for the ddr3 support.

[EarlZ]

Currently there is NO official support for 45nm on chipsets lower than the X38, there 'might' be support on the P965 upto the 45nm wolfdales, would be better if they added support for the yorkfields , since there are no electrical changes on the power delivery system on the processor BUT the actual board PCB/VREG isnt designed for Quads.. this holds true for the x975 and P35.

This just shows how overclockable and reliable the P965 chipset is. They are virtually the same with the P35 accept for the ddr3 support.

I we were to talk about overclocking, there is a HUGE difference between the P965 and P35 and not only DDR3/PCIe 2.0 support.. But if we were to compare them at stock settings. theres barely 5% difference.

Edit:

Take note of the key words Official support and support, might be confusing to some.

I would believe its possible for Asus to support it on the P965 since knowing their highend motherboards are built it more layers and VREGS

[brown_dog]

Minimal difference A P965 can OC as well as the P35.
Both can reach 400mhz+ FSB without a hinch But the P965's limit is not more than 450mhz while the P35 can go upto to 500mhz.

I can't say they are the same with stock settings given P965 at 266fsb vs. 333fsb.

Take note of the key words Official support and support, might be confusing to some.

I would believe its possible for Asus to support it on the P965 since knowing their highend motherboards are built it more layers and VREGS

Your talking about those electrical charges that are specifically built for mobos that support the 45m. like the x38.

Are you sure the P965 need those electrical charges to be compatible with the new 45nm.

Since those P965 are natively built for c2d and c2q(Q6600) and doesn't have those electrical charges why then some "Existing" motherboards like the asus P5b and commando series support wolfdale 45nm processors. I doubt that these P965 motherboards are built natively for the newer 45nm.

And It is prooven by asus that "existing" P965 chipsets are compatible with 45nm procs.
http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

and not only DDR3/PCIe 2.0 support.

And does the P35 really support PCI-E 2.0 I have checked the Asus P35 top of the line motherboard the P35 Blitz Formula and it doesn't support PCIe 2.0. What brand can it be?

cheers,

[EarlZ]

Minimal difference A P965 can OC as well as the P35.
Both can reach 400mhz+ FSB without a hinch But the P965's limit is not more than 450mhz while the P35 can go upto to 500mhz.

based on your own figures 450 to 500 Mhz is a HUGE difference in terms of FSB overclocking. But on a more realistic side, on avg the P965's hit a wall of 430 ~ 470 before it would require volt mods, the x38's hit an FSB wall of 580~610.

I can't say they are the same with stock settings given P965 at 266fsb vs. 333fsb.

The installed CPU determines the STOCK FSB, not the CPU ( your ignorance is amazing )

Your talking about those electrical charges that are specifically built for mobos that support the 45m. like the x38.
Are you sure the P965 need those electrical charges to be compatible with the new 45nm.

Since those P965 are natively built for c2d and c2q(Q6600) and doesn't have those electrical charges why then some "Existing" motherboards like the asus P5b and commando series support wolfdale 45nm processors. I doubt that these P965 motherboards are built natively for the newer 45nm.

Its called power delivery circuit, not "electrical charges"
No the chipset ( P965 ) does not need them but the entire motherboard does, some P965's are design ONLY for dual cores (may it be 90nm~45nm~32nm or lower doesnt matter ) By intels reference design the power delivery based on the P965 is not suitable for YORKFIELDS, manufacturers like Asus add extra PCB layers and more/better VREGs thus they only need the BIOS update for processor identification and support for the x.5 multiplier. some lower end P965's can and WILL run the yorkfields BUT there is a possibility of power delivery issues to the CPU.

And does the P35 really support PCI-E 2.0 I have checked the Asus P35 top of the line motherboard the P35 Blitz Formula and it doesn't support PCIe 2.0. What brand can it be?

cheers,

That is a typographical error on my part, its supposed to be X38, not P35.



To sum it up, Chipsets DO NOT CARE if its a 90nm or lower its still the same dual/quadcore on the very same micro architecture that received a die shrink ( and reduced power usage as compared to its counter parts )
The main problem is the yorkfields, not the wolfdales.

[brown_dog]

based on your own figures 450 to 500 Mhz is a HUGE difference in terms of FSB overclocking. But on a more realistic side, on avg the P965's hit a wall of 430 ~ 470 before it would require volt mods, the x38's hit an FSB wall of 580~610.

The installed CPU determines the STOCK FSB, not the CPU ( your ignorance is amazing )

we are talking about "stock" FSB not Oced FSB. Officialy the P965 does not support 333FSB CPUs. We are talking about stock settings for the "FSB" ok I know the difference between 333 and 266. And I know the P965 can be OCED to 333mhz.

So we should compare the native fsb 266mhz processor vs 333mhz processor. When we are talking about stock fsb settings. And that is what I mean when I say stock settings. Stock as in native FSB. Understand? 333 for a P965 is not A native fsb for the P965.

So its does have a big difference when comparing Native Stock 266mhz vs 333mhz fsb.

So You cannot compare a P945 with x38. on stock settings since for sure the x38 at stock 333fsb is faster compared to the P945's stock native FSB settings.
Sheesh.