Cebu Traffic: Getting more serious

[JX]

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More vehicles on same roads. Palit jud ang mga tao labi nausab ang pay schemes sa mga dealers karon, and that the state of commuting has not changed for the better. If mass transportation is improved, mas mopili siguro ang mga tao mag public transpo.

[brownie]

More vehicles on same roads. Palit jud ang mga tao labi nausab ang pay schemes sa mga dealers karon, and that the state of commuting has not changed for the better. If mass transportation is improved, mas mopili siguro ang mga tao mag public transpo.

I've already stated this earlier that even a highly improved city transit
means nothing if car dealers retain their very low payment schemes.
Our roads cannot contain the volume of vehicles coming in/out of it.

[Peenut]

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You do have a point. As long as PUJs still operate even if not suitable already, you've a case for traffic.
But the preceding main public transport had nothing to do with the current road congestion problems.
The car/motorcycle distribution is what causes this maddening traffic jams afaic. Why? because 5k DP.

Who in the fvck could not afford that kind of DP and a monthly of 8-9k? If not then they go buy scooters.

Naa to once pag anniversary sa Toyota, P1 ra jud. Naay uban less than 5k. Buhaton jud ning mga auto dealers sa ilang makaya para mahalinan ug sakyanan. And it's crazy to think daghan pa jud ang mo kagat ani nga bait. Oh well, kitang tanan raman sad ang mag suffer in the end.

A car could ride 5 average sized people max. A well-conditioned elf PUJ carries 20. So in every 100,
you need 5 PUJs compared to 20 cars. That's 15 less on the damn road!! In the end, you'd come up
with a peaceful ride specially in Metro Cebu. Also, in the 90's amortizations on cars were very costly.

exactly my two cents... naka rant ko ani sa Facebook, 5 years ago.

[kreik101]

I've already stated this earlier that even a highly improved city transit
means nothing if car dealers retain their very low payment schemes.
Our roads cannot contain the volume of vehicles coming in/out of it.

Many people in Japan can easily afford cars, but the government requires them to have a parking space before they can acquire one.
Even then, they dont use their cars and instead opt to bike or walk to the train stations since it is faster and more convenient than bringing their own cars. Which is evident during weekdays where people just leave their cars on their garage / paid parking lots and they just commute to work. Plus, parking on commercial establishments are pretty expensive as well.
Although traffic is really bad on the highways in and out major highways during the holidays since people would flock to the countryside.

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Many people in Japan can easily afford cars, but the government requires them to have a parking space before they can acquire one.
Even then, they dont use their cars and instead opt to bike or walk to the train stations since it is faster and more convenient than bringing their own cars. Which is evident during weekdays where people just leave their cars on their garage / paid parking lots and they just commute to work. Plus, parking on commercial establishments are pretty expensive as well.
Although traffic is really bad on the highways in and out major highways during the holidays since people would flock to the countryside.

Bro, you dont have to mention all that. You can visit Japan thread or Working in Japan thread,
read all the pages and discover that some Istoryans have been there couple of times or more.
Besides, even though correlation does not imply causation, however, with our traffic problems,
it appears that it does.

To discern how a Nihon-jin thinks vs a typical Pinoy is profoundly impractical.

Want people to walk instead? sure..

only if walking lanes were 2-meters wide and not occupied by street vendors.

Want people to use bikes? then..

there must be bike lanes somewhere.

Want people to stop using their cars and ride the jeepneys? then..

scrap the old chariots and replace them with modern ones - EURO 4 at the very least.

There's no band-aid soluton to this. Simply accepting the fact that Cebu's becoming Manila 2.0
will heal our frustrations. Let nature take its course and adapt. Solving problems is not part of the
Pinoy Pride ubringing. hahaha

[amingb]

Ug ma approved ni ilaha proposal regarding Monorail .. sulbad na gamay dili nata ma Late ... mag Car lang ta ug naa importante jud adtoon ug wala sakay lang ta ug MRT .. hahahaha

https://businessmirror.com.ph/group-...ransit-system/

Sure najud ni buhaton .... plus kani pajud .... To avoid further delay: Existing plan for BRT a go | Cebu News, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com .. ang BRT sure napud na approved naman ni sa NEDA ....


Kanang Ayala to Talamban aw paksit jud diha dapita kay kinahanglan jud ug widening gi usab ang plano ... dapat anha sa tunga mo agi ug walay ka Share ang route anang BRT ... hahahah ...

Gamhanan maning Goberno kinsay mo supak paksit .. daghan di mo sugot diha dapita nga ma apil ilaha lugar ug widening pero sorry nalang wajud moy mahimo ...

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Kaning "expensive parking spaces" like sa NY or uban places, dili ni sila pwede dri. Daghan gani kaau nang reklamo na 50php to ang price sa IT park na parking space.

[slakker]

ako kay adjust na lang gyud to the worsening traffic. di na kaayo ko mu lakaw kung dili importante, if pwede i-baktas kay baktason ra nako, travel a few hours before appointment time para di ma-late, etc... di ko mag expect nga ma-solve ni ang traffic situation sa local government. learn to live with it na lang...

[brownie]

https://businessmirror.com.ph/group-...ransit-system/

Sure najud ni buhaton .... plus kani pajud .... To avoid further delay: Existing plan for BRT a go | Cebu News, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com .. ang BRT sure napud na approved naman ni sa NEDA ....

^^ Addition by addition.

That plan is pure bull. Unless they take out half of the existing PUJ and force all
banks to impose increments of not lower than 1% over monthly interest rate of
the actual unit price in any car financing scheme with bigger discounts on full
cash payments. That way, a lot of potential buyers will back out and proceed
to commute.

In other words, di sa ko mosalig aning 2021 Monorail plan nila as long as ang
CCMC ingun ana pa gikan 2012. Grabe ning gobyerno sa Cebu. Mahuman
na lang si Du30 sa iyang term anang kalakiha igo ra na plano.

[amingb]

^^ Addition by addition.

That plan is pure bull. Unless they take out half of the existing PUJ and force all
banks to impose increments of not lower than 1% over monthly interest rate of
the actual unit price in any car financing scheme with bigger discounts on full
cash payments. That way, a lot of potential buyers will back out and proceed
to commute.

In other words, di sa ko mosalig aning 2021 Monorail plan nila as long as ang
CCMC ingun ana pa gikan 2012. Grabe ning gobyerno sa Cebu. Mahuman
na lang si Du30 sa iyang term anang kalakiha igo ra na plano.

Nag mahay ko ning butar ko anang Osmena .... hinay kaayu ....

Kanang mga PUJ boss nga mga deli euro4 compliant wagtang naman pud na ... ug ma fullblast najud na gamay rana sila kay dili na ka afford ang uban ... hahahahaha

Mas mo salig pata aning Project ni PDu30 nga Expressway kay mahuman jud na ... kana kang Osmena ambot lang, naa pay gipanghambog nga FlyOver karon wala nay balita ...

Uyon ko anang BRT boss kay Dedicated Line mana naa sa Tunga ... bahala mag ka traffic2x sa kilid2x basta diritso2x ang Bus sa BRT ... siguro ma feel sa uban naay sakyanan mag BRT nalang aron di ma traffic, ma minosminosan ang car sa road ...

Kaning BRT ug Monorail puhon dili ni Solution sa Traffic ang Purpose ani nga Madali ang commuter ug abot ... mas effective jud ang mass transport system aron maka likay sa traffic ... kanang traffic dili najud na ma solve bisan unsaon kay nagka nindot maau economiya sa Cebu daghan nang mo ari cebu mga negosyante ...

Mao na ug naa mo sakyanan sakay nalang mo sa BRT or Monoral para iwas trafficc .... abot dayon mo ana

Ang kanang pagmaligya ug sakyanan dili na nato but-an ug unsay payment scheme nila kay Anti-Business naman pud na ....

Ang solution aning tanan Mag Commute nalang ta BRT or Monorail kana rajud ....