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[geremarv]

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Ang Trinity is three distinct persons in the Godhead while ang Oneness kay one person manifested as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Trinity does not teach that the Father is the Son or the Son is the Spirit but rather three distinct persons one in existence.

ug unsa man nasulat sa bible is dat manifisted or distinct...

[geremarv]

Nadunggan ug nakita.an to brad nasulat man kay naay tingog ug naay daw salampati..d ta madescribe kon wa pa..

o nasulat base sa nakakita ug base sa nakadungog dli sila tanan nakakita dli sad cla tanan nakadungog

[geremarv]

"Modalism is probably the most common theological error concerning the nature of God. It is a denial of the Trinity. Modalism states that God is a single person who, throughout biblical history, has revealed Himself in three modes or forms."

bro im not oneness nor trinity as long as you believe and worship God in spirit and truth kauban ta...but anyways i think oneness is not error is just misinterpet of other religion f u will study about oneness it is one head meaning 1 God....and trinity make it 3 person correct me f i was wrong...

[SioDenz]

Good works is the result of your faith in Christ, this is true coz how can you do a good work if dili nmo e uyon sa gusto or pleasing sa Ginoo? Don't misinterpret that by doing good without true faith is enough na for salvation and having a "faith" without doing a good work is a dead faith. There is a big difference here from doing good works only in order to go to heaven. A christian who accepted Christ do good works because of his love for Christ.

So in short good works is NOT a REQUIREMENT BUT a RESULT because as what i understand on what you said - "Good works is the result of your faith in Christ"...

also, you said - "A christian who accepted Christ do good works because of his love for Christ"

I dot Not read anything you explaining about Good work as a REQUIREMENT.

the word is REQUIREMENT which means GIKINAHANGLAN if sa bisaya pa...

If you die immediately after accepting Christ you are saved just as much as a person who once saved. Given the consequences to each person, the paralyze man and the thief in the cross can't do good deeds anymore. But saying like you or me or any other person who is able and healthy, maka buhat, maka lihok, maka tabang, maka pili unsay angay buhaton uyon ba o supak sa Ginoo... naa tay obligasyon mo sunod unsay maau if you truly love God and follow him.. it will be lame to just rely on your faith and not practice it as long as you live. mao ni ako punto, irrelevant imo e cite ang paralyze kay given sa iya situation dli na maka buhat ug unsay maau, all he can do if he wants to be saved is to repent (maka sala man ghapn cya sa huna2x) and accept God in his life. The thief on the cross who was dying which is an exceptional circumstance. If ingon ka dli requirement ang maayung buhat sa sama natong maayu pag lawas, if rely rka sa imong faith.. what does that make you? We need a true working faith and practice and live what Jesus tells us to live and imitate his way of life.. but then again we are imperfect, He just wants us to have a repentant heart.

Mao lagi, dunay Sitwasyon nga DILI ma apply ang Concept nga GOOD DEADS IS A REQUIREMENT for salvation kay naa man diay time or instance nga Wala nakabuhat ug maayu.

For Me, Dili REQUIREMENT or BASHEAN ang Maayung buhat sa kaluwasan KUNDI ang maayung BUHAT RESULT sa tinud-anay nga PAGTOO sa DIOS. Saying good Deads is Not a Required DOES NOT MEAN nga dili nlan mubuhat or mubuhat ghapon ug dautan.

[geremarv]

john 3:3 execpt a man b born again he cant see the kingdom of God....bornagain means dli religion kon dli pag isab sa kina.eyahan. john 3:5 excepta man born in water and spirit he cant enter da ingdom of God

[geremarv]

So in short good works is NOT a REQUIREMENT BUT a RESULT because as what i understand on what you said - "Good works is the result of your faith in Christ"...

also, you said - "A christian who accepted Christ do good works because of his love for Christ"

I dot Not read anything you explaining about Good work as a REQUIREMENT.

the word is REQUIREMENT which means GIKINAHANGLAN if sa bisaya pa...




Mao lagi, dunay Sitwasyon nga DILI ma apply ang Concept nga GOOD DEADS IS A REQUIREMENT for salvation kay naa man diay time or instance nga Wala nakabuhat ug maayu.

For Me, Dili REQUIREMENT or BASHEAN ang Maayung buhat sa kaluwasan KUNDI ang maayung BUHAT RESULT sa tinud-anay nga PAGTOO sa DIOS. Saying good Deads is Not a Required DOES NOT MEAN nga dili nlan mubuhat or mubuhat ghapon ug dautan.

in other words ur afraid in doing bad things if u know Christ...☺

[yhokz101]

So in short good works is NOT a REQUIREMENT BUT a RESULT because as what i understand on what you said - "Good works is the result of your faith in Christ"...

also, you said - "A christian who accepted Christ do good works because of his love for Christ"

I dot Not read anything you explaining about Good work as a REQUIREMENT.

the word is REQUIREMENT which means GIKINAHANGLAN if sa bisaya pa...

ako e simple nalang boss, kung mo ingon ko good works, implied na na nga dapat naa kay true faith and believe in God. sa ako lage pagka sulti need nmo e practice ang maayung buhat. nganu naka ingon man ka dli requirement? cge daw kung faith ra imong basehan ayaw sunod sa mga buhat na angay Christiyano. ang imo man gud na pag sabot cguro, good deeds alone, which is very wrong and I didnt say good deeds/works ra ang maka luwas. sama sa kani kang James 2:17 "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." if nakuha na nmo na concept, maka ingon ka na in order to have a wokring faith you must accompany it with action which is pleasing to the Lord. then why naka ingon man ka dli requirement? If naa naka faith then do you stop there? Dili db? You continue to have faith and practice it, accompany your faith with your actions. Imo ma jd cguro huna2x action alone can save.

So in short good works is NOT a REQUIREMENT BUT a RESULT

sa kani imong sulti sumpaki sai imong ingon na dli requirement, kay nganu ni follow gud na ang good works sa faith... so nag exist ang good works even if ingon na result sa imong faith.

Mao lagi, dunay Sitwasyon nga DILI ma apply ang Concept nga GOOD DEADS IS A REQUIREMENT for salvation kay naa man diay time or instance nga Wala nakabuhat ug maayu.

Who are we to judge God if ever by that moment nag repent ug gi accept niya ang Ginoo.. cguro sa sitwasyon sa thief, exception to considering sa sitwasyon, same sa na paralayze if ever iyang gi accept niya ang Ginoo ug nag repent.

For Me, Dili REQUIREMENT or BASHEAN ang Maayung buhat sa kaluwasan KUNDI ang maayung BUHAT RESULT sa tinud-anay nga PAGTOO sa DIOS.

imo man lage gi point out na maayung buhat ra.. where wala man ko nag hisgot ana. Pagtuo inubanan sa maayung buhat ang akong sulti baya.. if you have faith in God, you will do good to please him. But if you only have faith alone and does not practice good works in accordance sa imong faith, mao na ang dead faith.

Saying good Deads is Not a Required DOES NOT MEAN nga dili nlan mubuhat or mubuhat ghapon ug dautan.

then you have it, it is a requirement, IF you practice good faith in God.

settle naman na nga issue.

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bro im not oneness nor trinity as long as you believe and worship God in spirit and truth kauban ta...but anyways i think oneness is not error is just misinterpet of other religion f u will study about oneness it is one head meaning 1 God....and trinity make it 3 person correct me f i was wrong...

tuo man kaha ka nga naay Dios Ama, anak ug espirito santo? IF tuo ka ani.. yaw na liboga imong kaugalingon about sa oness ug trinity, kay diha murag nag libog naman ka ana about manifestation, oneness ug trinity.

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in other words ur afraid in doing bad things if u know Christ...☺

you love Christ that you dare not to disobey Him.. mao ni dapat ang buhaton, not nga dli ka mo buhat ug dautan or mo buhat ko ug mayu para mahilangit ko. Do it for your love sa Ginoo..likayi ang unsay sayup.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

define holy and just

Holy means separate, unique, above the rest, to be morally pure. Just means He will not tolerate sin and He will judge the unrepentant sinner with the punishment he deserves.

please justify the purpose of man's existence

why would I justify the purpose of man's existence? Do you have problems with the purpose of God for man?

mao rana silang istoryaha, kay wala ka magtuman sa iyang gusto aw katilaw kas iyang kabangis

di na extortion slabs.. lahi man tawn nang justice ug extortion oi.. spelling pa lang daan layo na kaayo samot na sa definition.. LOL

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Is it a yes/no?

Like I said it's a dilemma for Modalist. I'm a Trinitarian, you're asking a good question to the wrong guy.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

ug unsa man nasulat sa bible is dat manifisted or distinct...

walay word na manifested or distinct but ang essence na the three Persons are distinct naa..

[NapoleonBlownapart]

o nasulat base sa nakakita ug base sa nakadungog dli sila tanan nakakita dli sad cla tanan nakadungog

ug mao ni rason nga distinct sila tulo kay wa man giingon nga si Jesus nitingog. Lain sad kaayo iyahang ingnon iyang kaugalingon nga "You are my Son whom I love" unya ang Holy Spirit nga si Jesus ra d.i gihapon daw salampati nga minaog gikan sa langit naa dapit sa iyang ulo. Nahulog nag duha ang nakita si Jesus ug ang daw salampati na mikanaog.