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  1. #231

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    TANAN TAWO nakasala man, SO Pila or UNSA kadaghana ang maayung buhat akong i perform?
    remember nga Requirement ang MAAYUNG BUHAT...
    Correct, tanan tao naka sala man jud. So, how much good do I need to do in order to get into heaven? You need to do God’s will until you die. Not counting pila or unsa ka daghana.. not based on quantity na brad. Then balik ko sa akong ingon na needed samtang buhi pata ang good works.. not only faith but faith with good works. Dli nmo ma limod na samtang buhi pata ongoing na ang pag sunod sa path unsay gi tudlo sa Ginoo, we practice what He teaches us. True Christians will continue to have faith and relationship sa Ginoo and perform good works out to demonstrate our faith in Christ.


    Naay makasasalang daku nya right after nag repent na Paralyze dayun tanan lawas from head to toe nya brain ray nag function. Dili ka sulti, dili ka lihok - Nya mamatay siya nga ing ana iyang sitwasyon, Ma save kaha to?
    Assuming nga wa siya nakabuhat ug Good works?
    simple raman ni nga example.. pero cge, logically dli na jd cya maka buhat as in buhat sa kamot (o tiil) kay na paralyze naman lage hehehe, but take note and remember the Penitent thief beside ni Jesus sa cross? Wala man jd to cya maayung gibuhat before db? Kawatan lage.. how come Jesus said "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise"? That's pure repentance sa part sa thief, before adto wala to cya nag buhat og good works jud unlike sa paralyzed kay naa man nabuhat before na paralyzed.

    For the thief, that was his moment of conversion. Para sa iya kadtong hitaboa, it was his baptism. At that point, nawala ang tanan niyang sala, he was forgiven and wiped out clean ang iyang kalag. I believe that right after baptism, salvation is assured. Pero kung na buhi pa tong thief unya padayun sa iyang maka sasala na buhat, dli to cya mahilangit.

    Choosing Christ is a life-long commitment, and we can at anytime throw everything away by turning against God and choosing what he forbids over what he loves. For us who are well and living in abundance in Christ, our lives must be an attempt to imitate Christ’s.

    For the thief it was pure faith that saved his soul. Of course, you cannot claim sola fide if you say you believe then do nothing based on your faith – do you agree with this? But that is not to say that works are not essential. It only shows that ultimately that you CAN be saved without works – if it comes down to it, in your case na paralyzed.
    Last edited by yhokz101; 03-11-2015 at 04:56 PM.

  2. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Correct, tanan tao naka sala man jud. So, how much good do I need to do in order to get into heaven? You need to do God’s will until you die. Not counting pila or unsa ka daghana.. not based on quantity na brad. Then balik ko sa akong ingon na needed samtang buhi pata ang good works.. not only faith but faith with good works. Dli nmo ma limod na samtang buhi pata ongoing na ang pag sunod sa path unsay gi tudlo sa Ginoo, we practice what He teaches us. True Christians will continue to have faith and relationship sa Ginoo and perform good works out to demonstrate our faith in Christ.




    simple raman ni nga example.. pero cge, logically dli na jd cya maka buhat as in buhat sa kamot (o tiil) kay na paralyze naman lage hehehe, but take note and remember the Penitent thief beside ni Jesus sa cross? Wala man jd to cya maayung gibuhat before db? Kawatan lage.. how come Jesus said "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise"? That's pure repentance sa part sa thief, before adto wala to cya nag buhat og good works jud unlike sa paralyzed kay naa man nabuhat before na paralyzed.

    For the thief, that was his moment of conversion. Para sa iya kadtong hitaboa, it was his baptism. At that point, nawala ang tanan niyang sala, he was forgiven and wiped out clean ang iyang kalag. I believe that right after baptism, salvation is assured. Pero kung na buhi pa tong thief unya padayun sa iyang maka sasala na buhat, dli to cya mahilangit.

    Choosing Christ is a life-long commitment, and we can at anytime throw everything away by turning against God and choosing what he forbids over what he loves. For us who are well and living in abundance in Christ, our lives must be an attempt to imitate Christ’s.

    For the thief it was pure faith that saved his soul. Of course, you cannot claim sola fide if you say you believe then do nothing based on your faith – do you agree with this? But that is not to say that works are not essential. It only shows that ultimately that you CAN be saved without works – if it comes down to it, in your case na paralyzed.
    so f dli maluwas by grace ky nai contra mag pa baptize nlng ky assured naman kaha.....pwde ra guro na a kontra for ever ky assured na f magpa baptized

  3. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv View Post
    so f dli maluwas by grace ky nai contra mag pa baptize nlng ky assured naman kaha.....pwde ra guro na a kontra for ever ky assured na f magpa baptized
    Ha?? Seriously?! Lol.. Sabta sa tong gisulti ni boss @rics zalved naa sa taas.

  4. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Sakto man ka.. Same ra ani bro: manifestation of our Lord thru Jesus Christ His son. Manifest is to reveal.. 1 God consisting of God the father, the Son and the Holy Spirit thru triunity, trinity.
    mura Oneness man na iyaha bai yhokz.. lahi jud na sa Trinity..

  5. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    mura Oneness man na iyaha bai yhokz.. lahi jud na sa Trinity..
    Murag ana jud cguro ang iyang gusto ipa sabot bai Naps...either way ni tuo man pd cyag ginoo. Hehehe..

  6. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post

    taympa sa gud...unsa man gyud gyud tong prutasa klarohon nato na bi...kay nahimo naman noon nga ang disobedience nalang ang evil
    prutas to sa tree of knowledge of evil and good.. di man gud disobedience NALANG ang evil daghan pa.. pero ang nabuhat nila na evil ni Adam ug Eve premero kay ang disobedience..

    mura sad ug politician di ie ning ginoo ninyo bai...himo ug maayo para daygon sa mangatawo, pero naghimo sad siya ug goons para maoy hansakan sa iyang mga sayop or palpak nga nabuhat
    nope kay ang Ginoo wa may palpak.. maghimo d.i ug sayop ang Ginoo? di man na maoy nature sa Ginoo slabs.. imo sigurong pagsabot ang sayop..hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Did he gained back his dead loved ones?
    I mean gibalik is kung unsa kadaghana iyang katigayonan gi x2..

  7. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Murag ana jud cguro ang iyang gusto ipa sabot bai Naps...either way ni tuo man pd cyag ginoo. Hehehe..
    kung ingon ana pa lang ka simple wa untay problema bai yhokz.. but we must know who we worship based on His revelations about Himself in the scriptures. Otherwise it's idolatry.

  8. #238
    Naa na mga istoryan resident theologians .

    Tarunga ninyo ug discuss ha lols .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  9. #239
    wala pa ma uso ang fb hangtod karon nia lang gyapon na sila boss spring. mga tadhan na

  10. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Correct, tanan tao naka sala man jud. So, how much good do I need to do in order to get into heaven? You need to do God’s will until you die. Not counting pila or unsa ka daghana.. not based on quantity na brad. Then balik ko sa akong ingon na needed samtang buhi pata ang good works.. not only faith but faith with good works. Dli nmo ma limod na samtang buhi pata ongoing na ang pag sunod sa path unsay gi tudlo sa Ginoo, we practice what He teaches us. True Christians will continue to have faith and relationship sa Ginoo and perform good works out to demonstrate our faith in Christ.




    simple raman ni nga example.. pero cge, logically dli na jd cya maka buhat as in buhat sa kamot (o tiil) kay na paralyze naman lage hehehe, but take note and remember the Penitent thief beside ni Jesus sa cross? Wala man jd to cya maayung gibuhat before db? Kawatan lage.. how come Jesus said "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise"? That's pure repentance sa part sa thief, before adto wala to cya nag buhat og good works jud unlike sa paralyzed kay naa man nabuhat before na paralyzed.

    For the thief, that was his moment of conversion. Para sa iya kadtong hitaboa, it was his baptism. At that point, nawala ang tanan niyang sala, he was forgiven and wiped out clean ang iyang kalag. I believe that right after baptism, salvation is assured. Pero kung na buhi pa tong thief unya padayun sa iyang maka sasala na buhat, dli to cya mahilangit.

    Choosing Christ is a life-long commitment, and we can at anytime throw everything away by turning against God and choosing what he forbids over what he loves. For us who are well and living in abundance in Christ, our lives must be an attempt to imitate Christ’s.

    For the thief it was pure faith that saved his soul. Of course, you cannot claim sola fide if you say you believe then do nothing based on your faith – do you agree with this? But that is not to say that works are not essential. It only shows that ultimately that you CAN be saved without works – if it comes down to it, in your case na paralyzed.
    The good deeds that you do you do it not so that you will be saved but because you're saved. It's not to gain salvation but the result of salvation.

    No good deed can get man to heaven because our righteousness are like filthy rags(Isa. 64:6) and no one is justified by works(Gal.2:16). We are made righteous by our faith in Christ. Our righteousness is imputed to us, it's not our own(Phil.3:9, 2 Cor.5:21).

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