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    Default Russia, China sign deal to bypass U.S. Dollar


    What can you say about this guys? Mao naba kaha ning sinugdanan.

    By: Al Jazeera America

    In a symbolic blow to U.S. global financial hegemony, Russia and China took a small step toward undercutting the domination of the U.S. dollar as the international reserve currency on Tuesday when Russia’s second biggest financial institution, VTB, signed a deal with the Bank of China to bypass the dollar and pay each other in domestic currencies.
    The so-called Agreement on Cooperation — signed in the presence of Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is on a visit to Shanghai — was followed by the long-awaited announcement on Wednesday of a massive natural gas deal 10 years in the making.
    “Our countries have done a huge job to reach a new historic landmark,” Putin said on Tuesday, making note of the $100 billion in annual trade that has been achieved between the two countries.
    Demand for the dollar, which has long served as a safe and reliable reserve currency in international transactions, has allowed the U.S. to borrow almost unlimited cash and spend well beyond its means, which some economists say has afforded the United States an outsize influence on world affairs.
    But the BRICS countries — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, a bloc of the world’s five major emerging economies — have long sought to diminish their dependence on the dollar as a means of reshaping the world financial and geopolitical order. In the absence of a viable alternative, however, replacing it has proved difficult.
    For its part, “China sees the dominance of the dollar in international trade transactions as a remnant of American global dominance, which they hope to overthrow in the years ahead,” said Michael Klare, a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College. “This is a small step in that direction, to reduce the primacy of the dollar in international trade.”
    Some have been tempted to view Tuesday's deal in the context of Putin's showdown with the West over the crisis in Ukraine. After the U.S. and Europe imposed sanctions on Moscow for its annexation of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula, Putin may have finally made good on promised retaliation against what he views as Western hegemony in Russia's near abroad.
    “Breaking the dominance of the U.S. dollar in international trade between the BRICS is something that the group has been talking about for some time,” said Chris Weafer, a founding partner of Macro-Advisory, a consultancy in Moscow. “The Ukraine crisis and the threats voiced by the U.S. administration may well provide the catalyst for that to start happening.”
    To be sure, the Russia-China bank deal is mostly a symbolic step. Liza Ermolenko, an emerging markets economist at Capital Economics in London, said that the deal was still “a very small one, in the grand scale of things,” and that it wouldn’t change Russia’s reliance on the dollar “overnight.” Most of Russia’s export contracts in the oil and gas markets are still priced in dollars, she noted, and on a wider scale, replacing the dollar with the ruble is much too risky to even consider.
    Likewise, even though China has agreed to the gas deal, which could see over $450 billion of Russian natural gas flow from eastern Siberia into China over the next 30 years, Russia is not in a position to abandon its ties with Europe.
    "From the commercial standpoint, Europe is the most profitable market for Gazprom,” said Mikhail Korchemkin, the founder of Eastern European Gas Analysis, who has consulted for Gazprom, the Russian state-owned gas company. "Exports to China can generate a small profit, [but] only if the government makes it free of taxes and duties.”
    But the bank deal is another indicator that Russia and China are in the middle of a wider rapprochement, which analysts say is premised not on ideological alignment but on a mutual desire to undercut the U.S. in their respective spheres of influence.
    Both countries are wary of President Barack Obama’s “pivot east,” a recalibration of U.S. foreign policy away from decades of war in the Middle East and toward the fast-growing economies of the East. Cynical observers have interpreted the shift as an effort to contain China.
    "This is a marriage of mutual strategic interests, not a marriage of love," said Klare. “China wants energy and weapons from Russia, and Russia wants diplomatic backing and cash. It’s a quid pro quo.”
    Yet even if China feels threatened by U.S. encroachment, it is Russia that is desperately pursuing closer ties with China.
    Putin may have gotten the better of the Western powers in the showdown over Crimea, but at the cost of growing geopolitical isolation. Under intense pressure to demonstrate Russia's avowed independence from the West, he has repeatedly threatened that he could simply shut off its natural gas pipelines to Europe and find new markets for Russian energy exports.
    Separate from that political posturing, the Russian imperative to find new markets for its energy exports is nonetheless very real. Energy demands in Europe have plateaued and may even decline in the long term because of stringent environmental regulations.
    “If Russia wants to continue to be a petrostate, it has to shift marketing of its exports to Asia," said Klare, who noted that Western energy conglomerates like ExxonMobil have begun doing the same.
    “We don’t want to push this too far and see it as a formation of a new, global anti-American bloc that is starting a new Cold War,” he added. "This is market-driven more than it’s political."



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    China-Russia to hold East China Sea naval drills
    BEIJING (AP) — China and Russia will hold joint naval exercises in the East China Sea later this month, amid regional tensions over island groups and airspace.

    A notice on the Chinese Defense Ministry's website Thursday said the "Jointly At Sea 2014" drills would begin in late May near Shanghai.

    Birds of the same feather flocks together.
    Pero kutob a gihapon na sila diha,
    they know unsay mahitabo if they would go towards the extremes.

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    ^^Nagsalig ang china boss nga usa sila sa naay dako ug economiya sa tibook kalibutan. Sigi nlang ni silag pang hulga sa U.S. haha.

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    kuyaw ni dah. the new axis of powers. Russia,china, north korea, iran, plus a lot of islamist states

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    The Chinese yuan and Russian Ruble cannot challenge the US dollar in terms of reserve currency status and convertibility. The US dollar already has a mature system of trade settlement compared to those two.

    This is an international transaction between national governments so naturally US dollar should be the default medium of exchange. However, the real reason they chose to ditch the dollar is because of US foreign policy.

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    This is one small step towards a big change..China is really getting stronger.Just hope this would not be the start of a new world order

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    in one way or another, kung dili sila mogamit og us currency, naa jud sila'y basihan sa ilang mga transactions
    basin ang payment will be in bitcoins! but then again, based on usd man japon ang bitcoins

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    Quote Originally Posted by atebon View Post
    in one way or another, kung dili sila mogamit og us currency, naa jud sila'y basihan sa ilang mga transactions
    basin ang payment will be in bitcoins! but then again, based on usd man japon ang bitcoins
    dli man based solely on USD ang Bitcoins. Here is a Bitcoin PHP:

    Bitcoin to Philippine Peso Rate — Bitcoin Live Converter — Preev

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzle View Post
    dli man based solely on USD ang Bitcoins. Here is a Bitcoin PHP:
    Bitcoin to Philippine Peso Rate — Bitcoin Live Converter — Preev
    that's very funny
    does that mean that if hatagan tika ani nga link - PHP - CNY - mogawas nga ang PHP is partly based on CNY pod?!

    on the topic - bitaw oi, it's really a wait-n-see game and a trial-n-error pa jud
    if ang deal sa China & Russia mo-ok, aw, mao na na

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    no, i wasnt joking at all. I meant that Bitcoin is not solely based on USD> it is a universal currency

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