Job Security - is there such a thing?

[Roger84]

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"We can make a difference"

[trollaccount]

aw, there you go...you feel secured because naa nakay back up (family business). how bout kadtong walay luxury parehas nimo?! like you, i work in a company that i FEEL nga dili modown, bisan pustahan pasad simply because of our CEO who has the CAN DO attittude. in saying that, should i say that i am indespensable? hahaha..truth is, everybody is despensable kay someone is always better than you. even hired CEO's loose their job, kita pa kaha?!

risky jud nang business bai, it is a gamble for gamblers...but business for the real businessminded. go ask your family if they want to go back working for other people. dba the answer is NO? i never said business is perfect. the question is JOB security, so how can you be secured when you are only an employee (labi pajud sa private companies)?

me selling what?!

Nonsense and too many assumptions based primarily on ignorance. Your company will go under long before mine starts to get whiff of sh!t coming its way. I am secure in the knowledge that I will be gainfully employed based on skills I have acquired my entire life. I could care less what happens to the business I may or may not inherit. I know good doctors, lawyers, engineers etc who feel the same way. Maybe you feel otherwise because your pay grade is less than desirable.

Where is the security if business is a gamble? Duna kay business?

[EsoyLegaspi]

"We can make a difference"

Agree, "WE" can cause a change for a better future for "most", next question are you ready?

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goodmorning istoryans . . . wa man jud job security now adays .. might as well start ur own business nalang

[Eve's Apple Project]

@trollaccount:
OT: Ignorance on my part? maybe?! well, i must admit i'm not as fortunate as you are. but then again, while you are yapping about how great & lucky you are at your company, it still doesn't say that you are indespensible. you are still an employee right? you may have acquired skills, but who's to say that your skills won't become obsolete or redundant someday (or expensive). Are you really sure that no one's better than you? Ang mga bag-ong tubo karon will beat you at your own game someday. Mao ganing giingon nga karon panahona dali ra ka mailisan (they'll replace you with something/someone younger, faster, cheaper). Job security is only good until it lasts (maybe by contract or maybe while they haven't found someone /something yet). if nagwork ka outside sa pinas but does not plan to settle there , aw good luck nalang. if mobalik paka sa pinas to say, find another JOB, aw you are almost at the end of the line. but if naa naka sa gawas, & settled there for good, aw goodluck lang gihapon & congrats nalng sad. BTW, kadtong mga doctor & lawyer nga imong kaila, naa sila sa pinas? i bet they run their OWN clinics/office right? & the engineers naa sad sila sa pinas? Maybe i am wrong in saying this (as you said, too maybe assumption on my part right?) but i guess JOB security sa pinas is different sa gawas sa nasud pwera nalang if you work in the gov't with strong ties sa taas(BTW, it only last until the next administration).


Business is a gamble for gamblers. currently I don't have a business but i HAD one before (partnership). I "gambled" & i failed. maybe next time i will do my homework first before jumping into a business.

Ont: if i am a janitor or a production worker, will i have JOB Security? i will say NO... if i am a system admin or a tech guy or any white-collar position who updates my knowledge everytime, will i have job security? Maybe, but will you gamble staying in your current company (with your current paycheck)? or will you move & find another job with higher pay & better perks? IMHO Job security is equivalent to one's Loyalty to the company. Loyalty to the company is rare nowadays.

[Roger84]

Agree, "WE" can cause a change for a better future for "most", next question are you ready?

Yes i am, how about you?

[EsoyLegaspi]

@trollaccount:
OT: Ignorance on my part? maybe?! well, i must admit i'm not as fortunate as you are. but then again, while you are yapping about how great & lucky you are at your company, it still doesn't say that you are indespensible. you are still an employee right? you may have acquired skills, but who's to say that your skills won't become obsolete or redundant someday (or expensive). Are you really sure that no one's better than you? Ang mga bag-ong tubo karon will beat you at your own game someday. Mao ganing giingon nga karon panahona dali ra ka mailisan (they'll replace you with something/someone younger, faster, cheaper). Job security is only good until it lasts (maybe by contract or maybe while they haven't found someone /something yet). if nagwork ka outside sa pinas but does not plan to settle there , aw good luck nalang. if mobalik paka sa pinas to say, find another JOB, aw you are almost at the end of the line. but if naa naka sa gawas, & settled there for good, aw goodluck lang gihapon & congrats nalng sad. BTW, kadtong mga doctor & lawyer nga imong kaila, naa sila sa pinas? i bet they run their OWN clinics/office right? & the engineers naa sad sila sa pinas? Maybe i am wrong in saying this (as you said, too maybe assumption on my part right?) but i guess JOB security sa pinas is different sa gawas sa nasud pwera nalang if you work in the gov't with strong ties sa taas(BTW, it only last until the next administration).


Business is a gamble for gamblers. currently I don't have a business but i HAD one before (partnership). I "gambled" & i failed. maybe next time i will do my homework first before jumping into a business.

Ont: if i am a janitor or a production worker, will i have JOB Security? i will say NO... if i am a system admin or a tech guy or any white-collar position who updates my knowledge everytime, will i have job security? Maybe, but will you gamble staying in your current company (with your current paycheck)? or will you move & find another job with higher pay & better perks? IMHO Job security is equivalent to one's Loyalty to the company. Loyalty to the company is rare nowadays.

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Eve - It looks like you have had a good coverage-exposure already that you have zoomed out and could really see the very big picture and pretty good understanding of "how really things work" on the macro-level. This is the reason I wanted to "link" this thread as to "Is there hope in the Philippines" - that means, if "WE" can make a difference and get to the objectives "WE" want and transpose this country by doing it "smartly", there will be more than just "JOB SECURITY",

All the insecurities and uncertainties that abound-exist is our own making, consciously or unconsciously, "WE" unknowingly dictate or follow what is around us or pushed into it. The important thing is the "WE" have to realize this and agree if this is what we want for us or most of us and if we will stay as is or "WE":move to a much better level. There is now technology that is within our hands to do this change, "WE"(MOST) are now more intellectually capable even though we do not have an important resource - money, but when principles and common objectives bind us, that is more powerful than just money, "WE" can create the kind of "security" never ever experienced before. As I said, the Philippines is a very very very rich country and no one needs to be enslaved or slaved by corporations. No father or mother has to leave his or her family to work abroad. "WE" are doing that because "WE" are not aware that there is a better way. "WE" do not have to be the sheep/lamb being led to the slaughter house. "WE" not only can make a difference, can effect a change, can change the direction, can change our lifestyle, "WE" have POWER TO DO IT.

[EsoyLegaspi]

Yes i am, how about you?

Great Roger - okey, let's go to the next step, I hope you do not shy away, as when I get into action many, many turn their backs, we are going to create the kind security never experienced before and hopefully there will be others that follow. We share common ground -
a. that indeed there is really no such thing as Job Security - simply because this country is very unstable, that we do not want.
b. most of the citizens are intellectuals but fragmented, divided, separated(islands), hence, as long as we are where we are we can easily be manipulated by those who have the money(power). That we do not want.
c. This is all a numbers game - 1% is manipulating 99%. That WE do not want that ;
9% are feed by the 1% manipulator - we want to correct
30% the poor are very easy to manipulate - we can influence that
60% fragmented in principles, language-dialect, religion, region, race, that we have to realize and correct is
of these 60% - WE need only 1% intellectuals to work smartly to
convince the 10% of our needs, wants and objectives.

d. What we want:
We want to be happy and be with our family and not be produce "Super Maid" or "Super OFW's...
We do not want to take advantage of our neighbors...
We want to have more to share with the less,
We want to enjoy and relax on 2 days per week - 1 day for God.

e. What we have:
1. The internet, and other technological advancement to unite us-the smart revolution.
2. The principles that bind us
3....

Now it is your turn to complete and add, comment as we establish common ground, you and others who share this vision will be the fathers of this smart-revolution...continue guys...

[Roger84]

3. The "Will to Succeed" - Ofcourse how can we have this? we need to be aware "self-awareness". Will is very important, in our everyday life we are surrounded by challenges/ difficulties everyone needs that inner drive, the will to keep going. In other words being persistent is the key to success. So i would say Failure is normal and is your friend.

[Eve's Apple Project]

@ esoy
exactly my point bai. We run like headless chickens when we lose our jobs. your Topic about Job Security should be an eye opener for people who thinks they are safe in their job (maybe only for the LUCKY FEW, but then again this is not just for those LUCKY FEW but for the majority). Sa eskwelahan, gitudloan ra ta to become good workers kay statistically most of us are workers. like on your examples kadtong pila ra ang percent sa naay control over the wealth sa atong nasod, gamay ra kaayo (that reminded me of R. Kiyosaki). Look at how our country is being run, our gov't encourages us to find jobs elsewhere (Not even inside our own country). i am not saying it's completely wrong to do so but is it right? Why can't the gov't encourage us to build businesses or encourage more investors to come to the phils? the more business we have in the country the more secured you would feel in your job.

It's Ok to be employed, i don't see anything wrong bout it. We still need teachers, carpenters, janitors, managers, nurses, waiters et c. but whats not ok is not having a choice to work for oneself, right? Mark Zuckerberg could've stayed at school but he didn't & he went to become a billionaire at an early age. News of the World CEO rebekah brooks just recently quit her job because of the current Phone hacking fiasco in the UK? if CEO's can lose their jobs, who's to say a common employee can't?