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    Default God is not Everywhere


    The word ‘omnipresent’ is never found in the original languages used to write the word of God in the Bible. Although it is possible that later translations which were translated according to the religious inclination of the translator may have it. We are lucky to have manuscripts of the scriptures dating as far back as the 1st and 2nd century of the Christian era (See image below). The advent of the computer age made it easier to search the entire Bible in just a click of a keypad.




    Nobody can ever (in this age) understand the whole being of God.

    (Isaiah 55:8-9) “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”

    As the heaven is unfathomable, God’s thinking and ways are like the unfathomable heavens by earthlings.

    We are not allowed by any authority in the Bible to ascribe anything to God, whether it seems like adding honor and glory to Him! Why? God does not change. He is infinitely the same from everlasting to everlasting.

    (James 1:17) “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.”

    The teachings of the deceived Mormon’s that God is a person just like us in the beginning; and only attained exaltation is biblically false.




    We can not add to His glory by our belief; nor diminish it by our unbelief.

    (Romans 3:3-4) “For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”

    God is limited to being true and faithful, He cannot lie! Im not putting limit unto Him, His words say so. It is impossible for Him to lie!

    (Titus 1:2) “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began…”

    (Hebrews 6:18 ) “That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us…”

    We know that God is a spirit because our teacher from heaven said so.

    (John 4:24) “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

    He is love because it was written.

    (1 John 4:16, 8 ) “And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him…”

    “…He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.”

    He is a consuming fire.

    (Hebrews 12:29) “For our God is a consuming fire.”

    He is compassionate and ever loving.

    (Psalms 103:14) “For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.”

    He is good.

    (Psalms 100:3-5) “Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.”

    He sits in yonder heavens and Jesus, our Lord, sits at the right hand of His majesty.

    (Colossians 3:1) “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.”

    (Hebrews 8:1) “Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such a high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens…”

    One strict prohibition of the Bible is for us to accept the word of God as it is. Nothing must be added or taken away.

    (Revelation 22:18-19) “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

    (Jeremiah 26:2) “Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:”

    (Proverbs 30:5-6) “Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”

    The Bible says that the eyes of God are everywhere.

    (Proverbs 15:3) “The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.”

    If God is everywhere, as other religions claim, the Bible should not have said that the eyes of the Lord are in every place. It will contradict the law of logic. Does it mean that the eyes of God, His very eyes, are everywhere? Of course, not! His eyes are in His being; but can see even beyond the material universe we know.

    God is in heaven, according to the prayer taught by our Lord Jesus Christ to the disciples.

    (Matthew 6:9-13) “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.”

    God is not in a place where there are evil strife and envy.

    (James 3:16, 15) “For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.”

    “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.”

    He is not where confusion dwells.

    (1 Corinthians 14:33) “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”

    It is an insult to God for anybody to say that He is everywhere. The disrespectful are trying to drag God to every place they want Him to be: In the casinos? The prostitution dens? In the place of demons? God forbids! This is the teaching of the misled, the blinded, and the wicked.

    (Acts 17:24) “God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands…”

    He even left His chosen nation, Israel, when they turned to be wicked.

    (2 Chronicles 15:3) “Now for a long season Israel hath been without the true God, and without a teaching priest, and without law.”

    But when they where following His statutes and judgments, God was with them, and not in any nation on earth.

    (2 Kings 5:15) “And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.”

    To my readers, are you one of those who are trying to discredit God by ascribing to Him false qualities that He does not ascribe to Himself? God forbids!

    (Job 13:7) “Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?”

    My God — the Almighty God — is not in a heart that deceives people like other religious leaders. Praise be unto Him, forever and ever. Amen!


    God Bless.

    God is Not Everywhere Eliseo Soriano

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    imo rang amo nang ingon ana rcruman.. mao bitaw naka tago2x siya kay tuo niya walay Ginoo did2 dapita..

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    imo rang amo nang ingon ana rcruman.. mao bitaw naka tago2x siya kay tuo niya walay Ginoo did2 dapita..
    aw wala diay sa bible ang mga verse nga naa sa topic? kung wala then prove it.

    Nagtago si Bro. ELI? sure ka?
    wala lang ka kakita, og ang kamatuoran bro wala lang siya dinhi sa Philippines og tua sa laing nasod.

    Og kami nagpasalamat sa GINOO sa mga kaso nga gisang-at ngadto kang bro.ELI kay tungod sa mga kaso mas nidako ang amo boluhaton sa pagsangyaw og maayong balita sa BIBLIA dili sa CATECHISM.
    Truly GOd works in different way.

    15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
    2 Corinthians 9:15



    nibagting napud imo dunggan kay igo napud inyo doctrine nga ang GINOO bisan asa tua.

    so kung mutuo ka nga ang GINOO bisan asa tua (everywhere), then stop praying "Our Father, thou Art in Heaven". but rather change it "Our Father, thou art in EVERYWHERE", total hilig man mo revise og bible.

    so akoa question, kung ang GINOO is Everywhere:
    1. naa ba siya sa SABUNGAN?
    2. naa ba siya sa night club?
    3. naa ba siya sa shabu factory?
    4. naa ba siya sa lugar nga daghan mangingilad?
    5. so puede pud diay ang Ginoo naa sa inidoro kung ato kuhaon inyo pagtoo nga EVERYWHERE?

    og lastly undang namog hangad sa Langit kung mangadye kay total God is Everywhere man diay matud pa sa inyong pagtuo.

    Peace!

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    Ang Catholic church ang nag-compile sa mga books nga gi-include sa Bible. kamo ang nag-revise. daghan kaayong sayop sa inyong mga revised nga bible.

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    wala man gani siya kung mag date mi ni Mary Palmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    Ang Catholic church ang nag-compile sa mga books nga gi-include sa bible. kamo ang nag-revise
    LOL. Try saying that to the Born Again Christians pre. Godspeed.

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    "God is Omnipresent" meaning God is everywhere by:
    source: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Nature and Attributes of God

    Immensity and ubiquity, or omnipresence

    Space, like time, is one of the measures of the finite, and as by the attribute of eternity, we describe God's transcendence of all temporal limitations, so by the attribute of immensity we express His transcendent relation to space. There is this difference, however, to be noted between eternity and immensity, that the positive aspect of the latter is more easily realized by us, and is sometimes spoken of, under the name of omnipresence, or ubiquity, as if it were a distinct attribute. Divine immensity means on the one hand that God is necessarily present everywhere in space as the immanent cause and sustainer of creatures, and on the other hand that He transcends the limitations of actual and possible space, and cannot be circumscribed or measured or divided by any spatial relations. To say that God is immense is only another way of saying that He is both immanent and transcendent in the sense already explained. As some one has metaphorically and paradoxically expressed it, "God's centre is everywhere, His circumference nowhere."

    That God is not subject to spatial limitations follows from His infinite simplicity; and that He is truly present in every place or thing -- that He is omnipresent or ubiquitous -- follows from the fact that He is thecause and ground of all reality. According to our finite manner of thinking we conceive this presence of God in things spatial as being primarily a presence of power and operation -- immediate Divine efficiency being required to sustain created beings in existence and to enable them to act; but, as every kind of Divine action ad extra is really identical with the Divine nature or essence, it follows that God is really present everywhere in creation not merely per virtuten et operationem, but per essentiam. In other words God Himself, or the Divine nature, is in immediate contact with, or immanent in, every creature -- conserving it in being and enabling it to act. But while insisting on this truth we must, if we would avoid contradiction, reject every form of the pantheistic hypothesis. While emphasizing Divine immanence we must not overlook Divine transcendence.

    There is no lack of Scriptural or ecclesiastical testimonies asserting God's immensity and ubiquity. It is enough to refer for example to:

    * Hebrews 1:3 and 4:12-13
    * Acts 17:24-28
    * Ephesians 1:23;
    * Colossians 1:16-17,
    * Psalm 138:7-12
    * Job 12:10, etc.

    Immutability

    In God "there is no change, nor shadow of alteration" (James 1:17); "They [i.e. "the works of thy hands"] shall perish, but thou shalt continue: and they shall all grow old as a garment. And as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: but thou art the selfsame and thy years shall not fail" (Hebrews 1:10-12, Psalm 101:26-28. Cf. Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:. These are some of the Scriptural texts which clearly teach Divine immutability or unchangeableness, and this attribute is likewise emphasized in church teaching, as by the Council of Nicaea against the Arians, who attributed mutability to the Logos (Denzinger, 54-old No. 1, and by the Vatican Council in its famous definition.

    That the Divine nature is essentially immutable, or incapable of any internal change, is an obvious corollary from Divine infinity. Changeableness implies the capacity for increase or diminution of perfection, that is, it implies finiteness and imperfection. But God is infinitely perfect and is necessarily what He is. It is true that some attributes by which certain aspects of Divine perfection are described are hypothetical or relative, in the sense that they presuppose the contingent fact of creation: omnipresence, for example, presupposes the actual existence of spatial beings. But it is obvious that the mutability implied in this belongs to creatures, and not to the Creator; and it is a strange confusion of thought that has led some modern Theists -- even professing Christians -- to maintain that such attributes can be laid aside by God, and that the Logos in becoming incarnate actually did lay them aside, or at least ceased from their active exercise. But as creation itself did not affect the immutability of God, so neither did the incarnation of a Divine Person; whatever change was involved in either case took place solely in the created nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    LOL. Try saying that to the Born Again Christians pre. Godspeed.
    mag "Godspeed" diay ang atheist?

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    God "can be" everywhere...omnipresent.
    Last edited by botslob; 10-20-2008 at 06:37 PM. Reason: double post

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    "God is Omnipresent" meaning God is everywhere by:
    source: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Nature and Attributes of God"

    why not change your source: THE BIBLE.


    and if you're going to read again your source quoted verses then you will see that He is not everywhere.

    read again the bible and let the bible explain.

    then take a look to my questions and refer it to the bible:


    so kung mutuo ka nga ang GINOO bisan asa tua (everywhere), then stop praying "Our Father, thou Art in Heaven". but rather change it "Our Father, thou art in EVERYWHERE", total hilig man mo revise og bible.

    so akoa question, kung ang GINOO is Everywhere:
    1. naa ba siya sa SABUNGAN?
    2. naa ba siya sa night club?
    3. naa ba siya sa shabu factory?
    4. naa ba siya sa lugar nga daghan mangingilad?
    5. so puede pud diay ang Ginoo naa sa inidoro kung ato kuhaon inyo pagtoo nga EVERYWHERE?


    Peace!

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