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  1. #921

    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Ikaw ray ga drag sa LEGIT nga MLMs diri, ang focus namo ang SCAM nga EMGOLDEX. Balikon, SCAM ang EMGOLDEX. Legit nga MLMs way labot diri.

    Ang MLMs focus nila ang pamaligya, dili pang recruit. Hala SABTA na.

    Pyramid schemes - NSW Fair Trading
    Pyramid schemes

    Pyramid schemes make money by recruiting businesses or people rather than by selling real and legitimate products or services – even if a product or service is involved.

    In a pyramid scheme, participants are often asked to make a payment, known as a 'participation payment', to join and are promised payments for recruiting other investors or new participants.

    The two payments often associated with a pyramid scheme are:

    a participation payment to join
    a recruitment payment, promised when a member recruits others.


    Allowed sa ilang SEC? Asa nga country na? Gatago tago man gani ug way klarong opisina. SEC sa Philippines? Panama? Finland? Colombia? US? Malaysia? Germany? LOL, under tight watch na ang EMGOLDEX. Di na jud ka kaexit

    Keywords anang MLM is "theres product and services" - kung no "product and services" = Pyramiding scheme


    Unsay proof nimo na walay GOLD ? , or GOLD TRADING ? ... AGAIN NOT NECESSARILY ANG MEMBER PA ANG MAG PRODUCT SELLING.
    But judging from their website naa mana sila marketing program so again ayaw pataka dinha.
    Mas maayo naa from emgoldex mo explain sa imo ilang marketing program.


    Pyramid schemes - NSW Fair Trading
    good thing base sa imong link
    A court can consider several factors when identifying a pyramid scheme. The Australian Consumer Law (ACL) does not limit the matters a court can consider however the following characteristics can be used to help identify a pyramid scheme:

    unrealistic claims in regard to future profits;
    the sales and/or promotional material push recruitment very hard;
    recruitment payments are a substantial reason to join.
    Kutob ra ka sa suspicion while ang court mo judge kung pyramiding ba.. kay di man ka differ unsa ang MLM and pyramiding scheme lol.



    unsa ni na countries sa video ?


    mabilang lang ang illegal na countries cause No registrations. Legal gihapon sa ubang countries... middle east, singapore, taiwan, korea, japan, UK, France, Russia, Most of US, many europeans, S. Americans, African, Asian countries.

    asa ka links anang illegal sila sa Malaysia and Germany ? ?

    Huna2xa pud na ang mga online based company like Ebay, Amazon, mga online based mutual funds, etc... registered ba na sa SEC ? mao na ang complication ana.... By Law pwede lang man daw gamiton ang Ecommerce law as basis of legality.
    Electronic Commerce Act (Republic Act No. 8792).


    SWAK. EMGOLDEX
    PYRAMID SCHEME: an illegal multi-level program wherein people pay an entrance fee for the sole opportunity to recruit others to do the same. Members to the scheme pay a joining fee, which is passed on to those above them in the scheme. Their purpose is to recruit new members below them in the scheme in order to qualify for a share of their joining fee.

    SWAK. AVON/TUPPERWARE/UNO
    MLM : a multilevel program wherein people pay an entrance fee for the opportunity to sell products and to recruit others to do the same.
    Again wa ka kahibaw unsa ang marketing nila ug kapila na nako gi.explain Emgoldex is engage in product selling.
    Kung di nimo ma prove na wa sila product/service selling... YOU DONT HAVE AN ARGUMENT.
    Dugay na tana na close sila worldwide kung wala silay products or services

  2. #922
    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Allowed sa ilang SEC? Asa nga country na? Gatago tago man gani ug way klarong opisina. SEC sa Philippines? Panama? Finland? Colombia? US? Malaysia? Germany? LOL, under tight watch na ang EMGOLDEX. Di na jud ka kaexit
    Under tight watch ni ? daghana aning mga tawo...



    July 8 2015 video... mga officers nila.



    ngano wa ni sila gi pugngan dong ? padala didto ang Interpol ug si Du30
    Global Scamming daw ni... bwahahaha.

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    good luck arresto anang 700,000 members

    kamo nalang decide kung scam ni or dili... gikapoy nako

  3. #923
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    Ikaw grabeh ka hina

    Pyramiding man gyud ang recruiting sa tanan MLMs oi !!! ang difference sa MLM ug pyramiding, Naay product ang MLMs.
    Tang2xngon nimo ang products sa mga MLMs karon, Pyramding scheme nana cause they dont have investments/products/services that needs financing!

    Kung namaligya ug GOLD ang emgoldex sa ilang online shop or even sa non-online ways. Considered naman na as product selling. NOT NECESSARY ang member pa ang mamaligya ug gold !

    ikaw ra man nag.sige ani oi, kadawat naman uban tao dire.




    Tanan networking bai, naa gyud winners and losers. Kapila na nako na ingon most members maglisod sa recruiting.

    Kahit 5% lang ang winner anang pyramid gi.allow lang gihapon na.. LEGAL ug DILI na SCAM.
    Ang important thing ana ang MLM naay products and services na gi promote so that maka RECRUIT sila.


    Ang imong prove if naay products or services ba ang Emgoldex ! again wa ka tubag ani.


    nag self interpretation lang ka sa imong mga links

    PS> Pustahanay nato P1M di ko member aning Emgoldex ? call ? kahit P1B pa... cmon.




    - kapila naman ni gi post oi na link
    EMGOLDEX - Investment gold bar online store
    kapoi ning balik2x ang pangutana, dugay kasabot.
    i.compare na nimo ilang products to other gold traders online.

    - whats your logical argument you had ? mosakay nalang ko sa imong post "i think its not the main office, but the only office they have" without having second thoughts ? lol

    - look at tsunade's video post, and then you decide kung apil ning Emgoldex sa MLMs
    gi.compare na gani didto.

    - newbie palang ka dire, ive been here long enough. I will argue anything here if want to. And believe me I hold my grounds.
    You put your money where your mouth is... pustahan nalang nato ni if member ko.

    ikaw diay ang judge ? palpak man gani tong religions cause all wars argument nimo hahaha


    Im glad we are living in a world where suspicions alone doesnt constitute a crime
    pikon talo man diay ka...

    -newbie ko? maybe on this site, i know the rules so dili mani base sa kadugayon ani nga site but experience cguro?
    -religions cause all wars? i think its not, init naka boss @Romeojin to the point imo dad.on ang ubang topic diri? please re-read the other thread if palpak ba ko.
    -putting money where my mouth is? do you really understand that saying? pustahan? no need, wala man koy budget para mupusta ug minilyon...
    -assessment is not about being a judge, hahaahah, maluoy ko nimo @Romeojin, niubos na ako tan.aw nimo,
    but still, it is already confirmed, EMGOLDEX is a scam, soon to be members, should think twice before entering on this kind of scheme, if you can recruit members easily, then you might as well join.

    "stupidity can't be cured"

    ciao, arrividerci

  4. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by Da Fai View Post
    pikon talo man diay ka...

    -newbie ko? maybe on this site, i know the rules so dili mani base sa kadugayon ani nga site but experience cguro?
    -religions cause all wars? i think its not, init naka boss @Romeojin to the point imo dad.on ang ubang topic diri? please re-read the other thread if palpak ba ko.
    -putting money where my mouth is? do you really understand that saying? pustahan? no need, wala man koy budget para mupusta ug minilyon...
    -assessment is not about being a judge, hahaahah, maluoy ko nimo @Romeojin, niubos na ako tan.aw nimo,
    but still, it is already confirmed, EMGOLDEX is a scam, soon to be members, should think twice before entering on this kind of scheme, if you can recruit members easily, then you might as well join.

    "stupidity can't be cured"

    ciao, arrividerci
    pikon? i tried to calm myself here despite the insults. I reported several posts cause too much na, but to no avail hence im firing all cylinder na.


    - you dont know me and you're already passing judgement, thats the problem hahaha.
    - of course religions doesnt cause most war; thats why you're wrong.
    - thats what i said "pustahan" so ?
    - so who gave you right to assess , who won ? you had the final say on things ? lol

    "Scam" confirmed by what ? Allegations, Tsismis and Press releases without given opportunity to defend themselves ?
    All MLMs na accused na ug scam... let the court decide their fate. Or maghuwat nalang ta ug 1year kung magclose ning kompanya


    I will rather believe on people in First world country... than people here tsismis palang sakay dayun


    "Everyone has to climb ignorant mountain, some people just choose to pitch a tent and live there"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    pikon? i tried to calm myself here despite the insults. I reported several posts cause too much na, but to no avail hence im firing all cylinder na.


    - you dont know me and you're already passing judgement, thats the problem hahaha.
    - of course religions doesnt cause most war; thats why you're wrong.
    - thats what i said "pustahan" so ?
    - so who gave you right to assess , who won ? you had the final say on things ? lol

    "Scam" confirmed by what ? Allegations, Tsismis and Press releases without given opportunity to defend themselves ?
    All MLMs na accused na ug scam... let the court decide their fate. Or maghuwat nalang ta ug 1year kung magclose ning kompanya


    I will rather believe on people in First world country... than people here tsismis palang sakay dayun


    "Everyone has to climb ignorant mountain, some people just choose to pitch a tent and live there"
    -i dont know you, i cant make judgement but only assessment... appraisal ni ako gi buhat, appraisal of your statements, and not you yourself, assessor ko sa usa ka company, and if mu assess ko nga dili mi kaila, or wala mi nagkakuyug, dili diay ko fit as an assessor or as an auditor? all i did was gather the information on this thread, kapoy basa balik2 i respect your opinion, it is yours and i dont have the right to obstruct but to give you another opinion also. If i may recommend, you may ask some of your colleagues and ask them about the statements brought by this thread if sayop man jud gani ang mga ni oppose nimo. kay for me, they are right.

    -no need to go further on this topic, if u insist, post your opinion there... ayaw diri kay out topic kaau ta, and i know for certain, that there is no need for you to go further on that topic also kay mainitan ka didto sad, better yet stay on this topic, kay maka provide pa ni ug better education kay this is a type of investment also.

    -pustahan, no, i have money, but i dont have the budget to do, kung clearly pustahan lang, one must take out that large sum of money and ask some1 to hold unto it, no need to insist sa pustahan, you can make a bet with @pysche54 kay naa xay dispensable amount just for you.

    -mao bitaw, mga taw diri sa pinas tsismis palang sakay dayun, pilipino ko, pilipino ka, bisdak tang duha, but the difference is, dili ra mga pinoy ako mga kaila, but ubay2 sad nga taga laing nasod, mao man sad ila sulti nako nga scam and na scam sad cla lagi kay wala clay gold nakuptan, and mag lisod ug exit, in the end, walay nakubra nga kwarta and reklamo nalang,

    please be more open minded, ayaw padala sa ila mga comment, kung nasakitan naka, then you better stay away nalang, no need to cause discomfort to yourself and further conflicts, remember, debates are healthy, but conflicts are not. so stay calm.

  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Kahina na lang jud..


    TIKALON, BAKAKON ug MANGINGILAD, mag uban jud na. Dili na pasabot na ikaw ha.

    PRODUCTS and SERVICES: Nada, Zilch, ZERO ang EMGOLDEX. Mao gani ng under tight watch ug BLACKLISTED sa ubang nasod. AYAW SIGEG PANGILAD


    ^^ wa kay proof na walay GOLD TRADING ... paghilom dinha. close na tana na sila.

    mas kasaligan pa ang mga foreigners sa video kay sa imong posts


    kung worth it ang pusta, why not.. more money for me; beside I wanna see your atheist ass.

  7. #927
    Quote Originally Posted by Da Fai View Post
    -i dont know you, i cant make judgement but only assessment... appraisal ni ako gi buhat, appraisal of your statements, and not you yourself, assessor ko sa usa ka company, and if mu assess ko nga dili mi kaila, or wala mi nagkakuyug, dili diay ko fit as an assessor or as an auditor? all i did was gather the information on this thread, kapoy basa balik2 i respect your opinion, it is yours and i dont have the right to obstruct but to give you another opinion also. If i may recommend, you may ask some of your colleagues and ask them about the statements brought by this thread if sayop man jud gani ang mga ni oppose nimo. kay for me, they are right.

    -no need to go further on this topic, if u insist, post your opinion there... ayaw diri kay out topic kaau ta, and i know for certain, that there is no need for you to go further on that topic also kay mainitan ka didto sad, better yet stay on this topic, kay maka provide pa ni ug better education kay this is a type of investment also.

    -pustahan, no, i have money, but i dont have the budget to do, kung clearly pustahan lang, one must take out that large sum of money and ask some1 to hold unto it, no need to insist sa pustahan, you can make a bet with @pysche54 kay naa xay dispensable amount just for you.

    -mao bitaw, mga taw diri sa pinas tsismis palang sakay dayun, pilipino ko, pilipino ka, bisdak tang duha, but the difference is, dili ra mga pinoy ako mga kaila, but ubay2 sad nga taga laing nasod, mao man sad ila sulti nako nga scam and na scam sad cla lagi kay wala clay gold nakuptan, and mag lisod ug exit, in the end, walay nakubra nga kwarta and reklamo nalang,

    please be more open minded, ayaw padala sa ila mga comment, kung nasakitan naka, then you better stay away nalang, no need to cause discomfort to yourself and further conflicts, remember, debates are healthy, but conflicts are not. so stay calm.
    just to prove na di ko pikon... di nalang ko rebut nimo, anyway how many times you had to say you are leaving the thread na?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Panama: Warning about Investing in Emgoldex

    The Superintendency of Banks has warned that the company, which is under intervention in Colombia, is not authorized to take investments from the public directly or indirectly.

    The Superintendency of Corporations, through Auto 2014-01-232874 of May 7, 2014, ordered the immediate suspension of operations of Emgoldex in the Republic of Colombia and intervention involving taking possession of the property, assets, business and heritage of the same and the following individuals:

    August 2014 – Massachusetts Securities Division begin investigating EmGoldex
    Ocober 2014 – Civil fraud charges filed against top US EmGoldex investors
    February 2015 – Philippines SEC issues regulatory warning against EmGolde
    April 2015 – Central Bank of Malaysia places EmGoldex on investment blacklist
    June 2015 – Dubai Multi Commodities Centre warn EmGoldex not registered to trade in gold in the UAE
    legal hurdles... in time be answered in court.
    Still legal in many other countries.

    seriously naa bay MLM companies, wa gi attacked ng behindmlm.com ?

  8. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Tikalon lang boss. Wa man gani kasukol sa 300,000.
    ikaw musukol ka ? hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    LOL. Wa man gani gi clear ilang pangalan. Style sa SCAMMERS na.

    Niay LOKAL o, testingi ug clear inyong pangalan.

    MAYOR Rodrigo Duterte has ordered the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) to look into the unregistered investment scheme proliferating in social networks.
    “I am directing the CIDG to conduct an investigation because that is illegal, they don’t have any permits to do business,” said Duterte.
    nag merge man ilang business gud hence change name.
    do you accuse first then ask question later ?


    ingon gani ni Du30 --- i sense its a scam .
    ataya mana gyud ka niya... non-sense kaayo lol. sense2x na diay ron walay investigations hehehe.
    Last edited by Romeojin; 07-31-2015 at 08:45 PM.

  9. #929
    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    Tikal pa, way limit ana. 1 Billion? 10,000% ROI? HAHAHAHHA.
    wala man na ROI gud. pusta gud na.

    enough na ning OT oi.



    pag.andam nalang ug handcuffs, daghan2x bya ni sila

    peace out....

  10. #930


    Kaning taga SEC, mga bogok! Pataka lang ug yawit! Ngano gud intawon ibutang man nila ang "EMGOLDEX" in their "SCAM ALERT" publication, nga 60% pa gani na nga SCAM!

    LoL!

    Undangi na na ninyo ug lalis oi! Kay kon mupatol mo ana, matakdan ra mo! Hehehehehehehe!
    Last edited by psyche54; 08-01-2015 at 10:45 AM.

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