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    waaaaaaaaaa ako sad ganahan ko mura nako ug perfect...

  2. #802
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmm excuse me asking for assistance is different from praying mary.. gets mo?.. mali ba ang nagpapatulong sa mga saints or ni marry to pray over the whole world?..

    Sis, why sa mga saints pa? why not Jesus Christ agad? mahirap ba yun? He is greater than saints, God said:

    This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matt 3:17)

    Can you tell me some verses in the Bible that encourages us to pray through saints? please give me some verses and i would be delighted to read it and understand it. Thanks po.

    PEACE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    let us say nga mas bulgar kaayo si Bro.Itachi mopost or to the point kaayo iya statement.
    bro tan-awa lang gud ang mga verse nga amo gigamit as evidence og diha ninyo makita ang tinud-anay nga gusto sa GINOO nga makahibalo sa iya mga pulong ang tanang tao.

    Pero ang nindot kay magpadayon lang ta og discuss og ladlad sa tanang source nga labaw sa tanan ang BIBLE ang ato basehan.

    Peace!
    yes bro rcruman you are right. pero para nako, it would be more meaningful and understandable to discuss with you... mas tahuron pa tika (kay gitahud ko nimo), respect begets respect...

  4. #804
    Quote Originally Posted by davies107 View Post
    Sis, why sa mga saints pa? why not Jesus Christ agad? mahirap ba yun? He is greater than saints, God said:

    This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matt 3:17)


    PEACE!
    sino'ng may sabi brad na hindi kami domeritso kay Jesus Christ? ang mga intercession ng mga saints at kay mary ay sa huli na yun..

    tagalig palaka

  5. #805
    FYI David, the Catholic church doesn't force people to ask for intercession from saints. Its really up to the faithful. You can go directly to Jesus even if you're Catholic, no problem with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by davies107 View Post
    Sis, why sa mga saints pa? why not Jesus Christ agad? mahirap ba yun? He is greater than saints, God said:

    This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matt 3:17)


    PEACE!

  6. #806
    "A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold
    the humble in spirit."
    Proverbs 29:23

    "Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised
    is wisdom."
    Proverbs 13:10

    "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and
    the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the
    Father, but is of the world."
    1 John 2:16

    "The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not
    seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts."
    Psalms 10:4

  7. #807
    Quote Originally Posted by davies107 View Post
    Sis, why sa mga saints pa? why not Jesus Christ agad? mahirap ba yun? He is greater than saints, God said:

    This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matt 3:17)

    Can you tell me some verses in the Bible that encourages us to pray through saints? please give me some verses and i would be delighted to read it and understand it. Thanks po.

    PEACE!

    at sino naman ang nagsabi na hinde pwede deretso kay christ?.. its our own choice, baka d mo alam na ang mga saints nagdarasal din cla.. lolzzzzz

  8. #808
    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee View Post
    FYI David, the Catholic church doesn't force people to ask for intercession from saints. Its really up to the faithful. You can go directly to Jesus even if you're Catholic, no problem with that.
    The church is not forcing people but somehow a lot of people are practicing it. sa mga fiestas, at ang daming mga idols ng mga saints where people bow down, kiss, and they even worship it. can your church do something about it? as what i have said can you tell me some verses in the Bible that encourages us to pray through saints? please give me some verses and i would be delighted to read it and understand it. Thanks po.


    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    at sino naman ang nagsabi na hinde pwede deretso kay christ?.. its our own choice, baka d mo alam na ang mga saints nagdarasal din cla.. lolzzzzz

    I didnt say hindi pwede dumeretso kay Christ, I am encouraging nga to go directly. And, yes saints do pray kasi they are the same like us, they're humans like us. They do pray to Jesus Christ, same like us.


    PEACE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davies107 View Post
    Sis, why sa mga saints pa? why not Jesus Christ agad? mahirap ba yun? He is greater than saints, God said:

    This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matt 3:17)

    Can you tell me some verses in the Bible that encourages us to pray through saints? please give me some verses and i would be delighted to read it and understand it. Thanks po.

    PEACE!
    bro davies, it depends po sa nagpray... we Catholics are not required to course thru our prayers.
    ako nga when i prayed alone i prayed directly to Jesus.... but most of the time during group prayer, (like my family, we pray together) we will course it thru...

  10. #810
    Quote Originally Posted by davies107 View Post
    I didnt say hindi pwede dumeretso kay Christ, I am encouraging nga to go directly. And, yes saints do pray kasi they are the same like us, they're humans like us. They do pray to Jesus Christ, same like us.


    PEACE!
    ayun wala nman palang problema, akala ko meron..

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