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  1. #71

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition


    Sa tinuod lang ang importante ra gyud tanawon kay ang AUTHORITY. pareha ra na sa ato supreme court gud, bisag unsaon ug lalis sa illegitimacy sa assumption of office ni arroyo after gipahawa nila si erap. wa nay mabuhat ang uban kay supreme naman nag-ingon na legitimate sya. mao na ang gitawag ug AUTHORITY. sa christianismo naa pud sila ana kay mao mana ang naa sa biblia. so sa pagkatinuod lang, wa na ta angay lalisan sa dogma o doctrine basta ma-established ra nato ang authority sa nagministro nato. pareha ra na sa balay na giproblema na ninyo ang interior na wala pa gani mo katukod sa foundation.

    sa samang paagi unahon usa ninyo pagsusi kung kinsa ang naay biblical authority kay bisag unsaon ninyo ug lalis sa authority ra man gihapon ta magtapos. kung interiors ug mga walls ato unahon kaysa sa poste sa building ang mahitabo mahugmak dayon ang building kay wa may poste mura ra daw syag cardboard. inig uyog lang gamay mahugmak dayon.

    mao postehi usa ninyo kay mag-usik-usik ra mo sa inyo oras unya diay sa AUTHORITY ra diay gihapon ta magtapos.

    kay...

    how can one preach unless he is sent... and how are they sent?!? read acts. for reference read how moses lay his hand on joshua to confer to him his dignity as prophet.

  2. #72

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition


    JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

    JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE."

    asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

    a. biblia b.Cathecism of the Catholic Church


    cge amico tubaga na para mahibaw-an kung kinsa atong sundon.

  3. #73

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    Quote Originally Posted by carboloy

    bay lets get back to the topic bay kay murag layo na kaayo da.
    ayaw pag lihay diha bay carboloy. ikaw raba ang nag una2 ani ug pa OT bahin sa bible origin..

    tubaga sa ni bay aron ma undang ang OT diri.. DIIN GIKAN ANG HOLY BIBLE? tubag sa imong kaugalingon na hibawan. ayaw pag sige copy and paste ug link!

  4. #74

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    ayaw pag lihay diha bay carboloy. ikaw raba ang nag una2 ani ug pa OT bahin sa bible origin..

    tubaga sa ni bay aron ma undang ang OT diri.. DIIN GIKAN ANG HOLY BIBLE? tubag sa imong kaugalingon na hibawan. ayaw pag sige copy and paste ug link!
    basaha to akong post bay. ikaw asa man diay gikan imong nahibaw-an sa imong kaugalingon ra? wla ka nag basa ug laing sources. ayaw gud i liko liko ang istorya bay gihatagan na tikag link.
    unya tubaga nani akong pangutana.

    JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

    JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE."

    asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

    a. biblia b.Cathecism of the Catholic Church


    kani bay tubaga. murag kamo maoy cge ug likay likay da.

  5. #75

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    Quote Originally Posted by carboloy
    JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

    JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE."

    asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

    a. biblia b.Cathecism of the Catholic Church


    cge amico tubaga na para mahibaw-an kung kinsa atong sundon.
    sa duha maggikan kay kanang duha mura na ug twins kay ingon sa biblia..

    hold on to the traditions.... whether by word of mouth or by epistles.

    klaro naman tingali nang tubaga. the cathechism both had the biblical passages as weell as tradition that agrees with church teachings so it's both. the bible is in the cathechism. the cathechism is in the bible.

  6. #76

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    karon asa man gikan ang 27 books sa new testament? ayaw ko ingna na naa sa article kana imo gi-posts.

    klaro baya na gi-acknowledge anang article na ang new testament nakuha sa catholic sources (e.g. catholic and orthodox churches which is still considered as one holy catholic church). and there is a hierarchy who had authority to loose and bind. whosoever listens to you, listens to me...

  7. #77

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    Quote Originally Posted by amico
    sa duha maggikan kay kanang duha mura na ug twins kay ingon sa biblia..

    hold on to the traditions.... whether by word of mouth or by epistles.

    klaro naman tingali nang tubaga. the cathechism both had the biblical passages as weell as tradition that agrees with church teachings so it's both. the bible is in the cathechism. the cathechism is in the bible.
    wla man ka kasabot sa akong pangutana bay basaha ug balik

    JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

    JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE."

    ASA nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

    a. biblia b.Cathecism of the Catholic Church


    cge amico tubaga na para mahibaw-an kung kinsa atong sundon.

  8. #78

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    ^^ kasabot ko bai, sobra pa sa kasabot kay mao man pud ni ang sulti sa inyo libro:

    1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the Church of the living God, the Pillar and Ground of the Truth.

    unsay nakasulti diha? di ba Church? asa diha nakabutang na bible ang pillar and ground of truth? and the church is a hierarchy. simple ra na bai. klaro pud kaayo.

    asa man kuno nya ibilin ang iya teachings? syempre sa church, asa pa man diiay, nagsugo diay si hesus na magsuwat sila ug biblia? sige daw asa man mabasa na nagsugo si hesus na isuwat ang iya mga teachings?

    mao ni ako pirmi gibalikbalik sa pastor na nag-eskwela pa gani sa usa ka maayo daw na theological academy. apan hangtud karon wa gyud siya katubag kung naa bay mabasa na niingon si hesus pagsuwat mo ug biblia aron tanan nako tudlo nakasuwat na ug di na lalisan.

    wa gyud sya katubag ani 5years na ko naghuwat sa iyang tubag hangtud ron naglikoliko ra ni sya aron di lang gyud nya matubag kung ngano tanan kinahanglan maggikan sa biblia na wa man niingon si hesus pagsuwat mo ug biblia kay tanan nako ipabuhat naa ra sa biblia.

  9. #79

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    matubag na imong pangutana bay tubaga sa akong pangutana but maayo kay naa kay pangutana cge ako nang tubagon tubaga sa akong pangutana a or b ra.

  10. #80

    Default Re: Scripture and Tradition

    kay wa pa diay nako matubag?!? kaklaro na anang tubaga. naggikan man gani na sa inyo libro.

    ingna nalang gyud na di ka katubag ana, unya magpalusot pa gyud ka.

    kay pastor na nag-eskwela pa gani sa theological academy, wa gani katubag. ikaw pa kaha na tingali sa kilidkilid ra ka.


    kanang ingon na a or b ra. mura mura ra na ug nag-ingon kinsa man imo mas gihigugma a. si papa, b. si mama.

    mao na ang panghunahuna sa kulang ug paminsar.


    sakto ba gud nang pangutanaha na muingon ka sa bata:

    kinsa man imo mas gihigugma:

    a. papa b. mama

    sige pili lang ug isa kay a or b ra.

    walay buang na anak na maghigugma ra sa isa ra na ginikanan.

    maomao pud na sa gusto nimo mahitabo.

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