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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    ambot lang sa uban, pero para nako kun mamatay na ka quits na ka, maghuwat na lang ka kanus-a ang roll call sa attendance.

    kanang misa naa man sad nay possibility nga giimbento ra na para naay opportunity mangolekta sa sibot.

    gawas pa sad, supposed to be, anything regarding our salvation must not be paid, unya ngano pabayron man ta?
    PLEASE READ THE BIBLE BRO...[br]Posted on: November 14, 2007, 02:11:37 PM_________________________________________________C hristians believed in purgatory before they believed in the Bible! As we don’t see the word ‘Bible’ in an authentic bible translation, we don’t see the word ‘purgatory’ in the bible! But Bible supports its existence.

    Purgatory is not a place, but a state of being, that we started in baptism and perfected after our death. It is our full transformation in Christ (Rom 13:14) and perfection in our holiness (1Pet.1: 16)
    As we all know, we are not holy enough to go to heaven directly! Even saints may not think, they are holy enough to be with God! Unholy things will never enter in to heaven, as it is a place of Holy of Holies! But God demands this holiness from us to be with him: “Be holy, for I the Lord your God is holy” (Lv: 19:2) but we are not totally sinners to go directly to hell, the eternal punishment. Even so called sinners may have done many good things in their life, which are to be rewarded! Jesus said; “If you give a cup of water in my name you will be rewarded” Our good deeds will not be punished in hell and our evil doings will never enter into heaven. So Gods justice and his mercy demand a state of purification that we become worthy to be with our heavenly father.

  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    ambot lang sa uban, pero para nako kun mamatay na ka quits na ka, maghuwat na lang ka kanus-a ang roll call sa attendance.

    kanang misa naa man sad nay possibility nga giimbento ra na para naay opportunity mangolekta sa sibot.

    gawas pa sad, supposed to be, anything regarding our salvation must not be paid, unya ngano pabayron man ta?
    d man guro na bayad tawag ana bro mura donation man.. naa rman na sa mgpamisa f kwarta iya ihatag or gnahan nya ihatag kay fruits or unsa pah..

    bt d sad jud na malikyan na naa jud magpabayad.. saon gisugdana man ug kwarta ang gihatag..

    hahaha..

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    Default Re: porgatoryo

    ang donation walay amount.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    ang donation walay amount.
    yup wala man jud naa amount depende rna sa ngdonate wui naa man gali muahatag ug fruits or eggs ug unsa pana ila ipanghatag... and usually sa ila tawag ana ky halad for thanks giving..

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    It is a holy and pious thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from sins (2Macc.12:46)

    Mao ni ang basis sa Roman Catholic nga Doctrine about Purgatory ..

    But kana nga Book nga Maccabees gikuha na sa Protestant ( I think 7 Books na cla tanan gi naa sa Roman Catholic Bible nga wala sa Prostestant ) gikuha na cia sa Prostestant coz it does not teach spirituality ug isa pa ang mga tawo naghimo ana nga Books are not Prophets nor Apostles .

    Sa akoa nga Side Protestant man ko unya wala mana sa Bible namo ang Purgatory dili ko mo tuo ana ....


    ngano gi kuha man na nga book( Maccabees) bro sa protestants? sakto imong gi think bro 7 books na tanan. its called the SEPTUAGINT used by the ancient jews. way before the bible was compiled... Even Jesus himself was using these Old Testament books, as they were in use among the Jews at his time. The book of Maccabees, which was written centuries before Jesus, gives clear evidence of praying for the dead.


    tell me bro unsa jud ang rason ngano gikuha mana sa mga potestante?

  6. #56

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    diba naa man sab na sa revelation ang ideya na naay purgatoryo..
    katong mga tao namatay nahimong spirito unya di pa sila malangit, pero di pa sab sila maimpyerno, asa man to sila puyo diay?
    di purgatoryo.. hahahahaha..

  7. #57

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    sa mabugnawng dapit cla puyo bro! maayo didto kay bugnaw og nindot!!! heheheh :mrgreen:

  8. #58

    Default Re: porgatoryo

    Kahibalo ka kung unsay REVELATION, its a future event not an actual event.

    Peace!

  9. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    PLEASE READ THE BIBLE BRO...[br]Posted on: November 14, 2007, 02:11:37 PM_________________________________________________C hristians believed in purgatory before they believed in the Bible! As we don’t see the word ‘Bible’ in an authentic bible translation, we don’t see the word ‘purgatory’ in the bible! But Bible supports its existence.

    Purgatory is not a place, but a state of being, that we started in baptism and perfected after our death. It is our full transformation in Christ (Rom 13:14) and perfection in our holiness (1Pet.1: 16)
    As we all know, we are not holy enough to go to heaven directly! Even saints may not think, they are holy enough to be with God! Unholy things will never enter in to heaven, as it is a place of Holy of Holies! But God demands this holiness from us to be with him: “Be holy, for I the Lord your God is holy” (Lv: 19:2) but we are not totally sinners to go directly to hell, the eternal punishment. Even so called sinners may have done many good things in their life, which are to be rewarded! Jesus said; “If you give a cup of water in my name you will be rewarded” Our good deeds will not be punished in hell and our evil doings will never enter into heaven. So Gods justice and his mercy demand a state of purification that we become worthy to be with our heavenly father.
    bro is the verse u mention nag mention ba na ug porgatory...bro dont get word by word sa bible sabton to na ang whole chater para masabtan.....in that chapter bro or verse it never mention even 1 word porgatory....

  10. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    bro is the verse u mention nag mention ba na ug porgatory...bro dont get word by word sa bible sabton to na ang whole chater para masabtan.....in that chapter bro or verse it never mention even 1 word porgatory....
    yes it never mention the word porgatory and i never said that it was mentioned... and ofcourse i dont take the bible literally.. please re-read my post bro..

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