Hospitals, abusing nurses!

[RMK711]

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Because that's their policy for hiring IENs, because our curriculum/standards are not the same with theirs that's why they need those extra years as requirements for IENs. If it's their own graduates then they won't need them to have experience.

Actually in some hospitals here, esp private hosp, fresh grads are on probation for months before they get hired. But they will be hired after probation and they are not made to pay for being on probation.

But did you ever stop to think about why this is their policy? Maybe it's because in their experience, fresh grads from our country really aren't up to their standards. I couldn't think of any other reason why, policies are always there because someone thought it was needed. It isn't some mere formality that needs to be done away with. The work experience requirement is tacked on because they only want quality nurses, not fresh grads who are likely to have skills gaps. I absolutely do not believe that most fresh grads (whatever the course) already know everything they need to know to excel at their field. In the IT field, it often takes years and years of apprenticeship and low-level work to become a full programmer. Even doctors require years of low-paying residency before they can practice as a full doctor. It's arrogant for anyone to think they don't need further training when they are simply fresh graduates, whatever the field.

You can blame CHED for this really, they've issued too many licenses for nursing schools and so there are too many substandard schools churning out substandard grads. You may come from a good school and be a good student, but the majority of grads are not in the same position. That is why this training from work experience is needed to provide a necessary assurance to foreign governments that a deficiency in skills will not eventuate when our nurses are deployed into their communities.

[kokendy]

most fresh grads are forced to volunteer and some even pay for the training kay not all hospitals are hiring nurses karon. mas maayo na naa sila work rather than mo standby sa balay doing nothing. maka gain na sila additional skills and knowledge. ang disadvantage lang ani kay some hospitals dili gani mo provide ug supplies for their staff samot na sa mga volunteers nga nag bayad.

[jangska]

sample ani kay ikaw pay mo volunteer ikaw pay mo bayad sa hospital. ila ning gibuhat kay clearly pabor kaayo nila kay overflowing ang nurses sa pinas.

[masakiton]

better income = better life for the family
kinsa gud tawn tarong nga parents dili ganahan nga ma arang2x ang kahimtang sa ila pamilya
citizen (mag tinarong + hardworking mode + swerte) overseas = pamilya maka benefit
government mag tinarong + hardworking mode = pilipinas maka benefit

better income = lazy leeches in the family
citizen (mag tinarong + hardworking mode + swerte) overseas = pamilya magtinapulan
government mag tinarong + hardworking mode = imposible

.......... >_>

Pinoy mentality, suyaan kaayo sa grasya sa uban. >_>

^good example

[EgentKakashi]

i've moved on from enjoying life based on money >_>

as long as naay maka.on, naay mapuy-an, naay magasto, ok na. poblema sa uban, dili ma.contento. Pinoy mentality, suyaan kaayo sa grasya sa uban. >_>

you right Sir, some people are uncontented with what they have right now.
mao jud na ako kalagutan na kina.iya sa mga taw..
But..you can't blame some people who just wants to help there parents or
family na dako kaau silag utang nila..that's why some people prefer to work
abroad..

[FranZeno]

i've moved on from enjoying life based on money >_>

as long as naay maka.on, naay mapuy-an, naay magasto, ok na. poblema sa uban, dili ma.contento. Pinoy mentality, suyaan kaayo sa grasya sa uban. >_>

Mao sad nay problema sa uban, even if there is room for improvement, dli dawaton kay mahadlok mugawas sa comfort zone. At least ang kanang mga nurse niagi og kalisod pangita og experience para makakita og maayong kinabuhi. Isn't it ikaw ang nangita og "easy way" out?

But did you ever stop to think about why this is their policy? Maybe it's because in their experience, fresh grads from our country really aren't up to their standards. I couldn't think of any other reason why, policies are always there because someone thought it was needed. It isn't some mere formality that needs to be done away with. The work experience requirement is tacked on because they only want quality nurses, not fresh grads who are likely to have skills gaps. I absolutely do not believe that most fresh grads (whatever the course) already know everything they need to know to excel at their field. In the IT field, it often takes years and years of apprenticeship and low-level work to become a full programmer. Even doctors require years of low-paying residency before they can practice as a full doctor. It's arrogant for anyone to think they don't need further training when they are simply fresh graduates, whatever the field.

You can blame CHED for this really, they've issued too many licenses for nursing schools and so there are too many substandard schools churning out substandard grads. You may come from a good school and be a good student, but the majority of grads are not in the same position. That is why this training from work experience is needed to provide a necessary assurance to foreign governments that a deficiency in skills will not eventuate when our nurses are deployed into their communities.

And sadly that's where some hospitals exploit that. They ask for fees, that's the problem there, wala man untay gasto ang hospital kung naay m.volunteer sa ilaha.

[RMK711]

@masakiton: Don't count only the material blessings that the family of the OFW is getting from his/her income abroad. Think also of the severe disadvantages of losing one parent and becoming used to depending on their income. Dependence on remittance income is a real phenomenon and is hugely damaging to economies. I do not believe the benefits of additional earnings of OFW outweighs the damaging impact of having only one parent and developing a dependence mentality.

It is a sad fact of the matter that the OFW family (kids, wife/husband) knows only how to spend the earners money, and have completely lost the will to work. So many cases where when the OFW wasn't working abroad, the husband/wife was in full-time job and even some of the kids were working. Then once the OFW started working overseas, immediately the husband/wife stops working and some of the kids come back home to roost and leech on the extra income as if it were their entitlement in life. This becomes a serious problem when the OFW dies/loses his job because then you have a whole family that is already used to depending entirely on his/her income and have forgotten how to make a living on their own.

The percentage of OFW families where the kids are sent to good schools and really excel to pay back the hard work of their parent is very, very low. Dependency is one of the worst kinds of social malaise that one can cultivate...

[masakiton]

@masakiton: Don't count only the material blessings that the family of the OFW is getting from his/her income abroad. Think also of the severe disadvantages of losing one parent and becoming used to depending on their income. Dependence on remittance income is a real phenomenon and is hugely damaging to economies. I do not believe the benefits of additional earnings of OFW outweighs the damaging impact of having only one parent and developing a dependence mentality.

diba mas damaming kung mag huna2x ka nga mas maka hatag ka ug maayong future sa imo pamilya pero wala lang ka ni grab sa opportunity

It is a sad fact of the matter that the OFW family (kids, wife/husband) knows only how to spend the earners money, and have completely lost the will to work. So many cases where when the OFW wasn't working abroad, the husband/wife was in full-time job and even some of the kids were working. Then once the OFW started working overseas, immediately the husband/wife stops working and some of the kids come back home to roost and leech on the extra income as if it were their entitlement in life. This becomes a serious problem when the OFW dies/loses his job because then you have a whole family that is already used to depending entirely on his/her income and have forgotten how to make a living on their own.

dili tanan sir... kai naa mga OFW igo2x rapud ang padala para maka eswekla ila anak sa school nga tan aw nila maka hatag ug maayong quality sa educatuon

The percentage of OFW families where the kids are sent to good schools and really excel to pay back the hard work of their parent is very, very low. Dependency is one of the worst kinds of social malaise that one can cultivate...

low pero its happening

ka daghan unemployed sa pilipinas... kung kana kaha i pang tap sa government ug mga industries aron naa pud sila income

[RMK711]

^ the problem is that they are unemployed by choice. Their father/mother earns so much money overseas so they just sit at home, watch TV and wait to receive manna from heaven (remittance).

[masakiton]

^ the problem is that they are unemployed by choice. Their father/mother earns so much money overseas so they just sit at home, watch TV and wait to receive manna from heaven (remittance).

ka daghan unemployed nga walai parinti nga OFW.
dili tanan OFW sir dagko ug sweldo
nag apply2x ko sauna sa mga agency sa pinas para middle east... ako mga ka dunggan nga na hire kai mga 20k pesos ang sweldo.... ang free kai accommodation ug plane ticket