Advantages and disAdvantages of overclocking

[brown_dog]

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beg to disagree, not all ASUS mobo sucks as you claim, its just a bad batch, i use ASUS MOBO and never had a problem with it with regards to OC, and DFI as the best....nah, id choose ABIT. Wink

Its the limited voltage options of the Asus that sucks. OCing a MOBO is all in the BIOS, adjusting the mem timings, bus frequency, CPU frequency(For Mobile Athlons), and Voltage. Sad to say Asus fails in the voltage flexibility options, Since asus particularly A7N-8x, you can't adjust the Dimm voltage and the VDD voltage, that would lead to very limited overclocking capability.

Unlike Epox you can adjust almost all voltage including VDD, VCore, VDimm, and AGP voltage, capable of high range voltage limits, and to mention adjusting your voltage is very useful to overclockers since it would result in higher OC stability.

Same as DFI has a higher voltage range and stability, Newer revision of DFI socket A MOBOS even has 4 DDR dims compare others which only has three in the socket A category.

The reason why choose DFI over Epox is that the memory of DFI overclocks better. DFI has a wider range of Dimm voltage upto 3.1v, compared to 2.9 maximum dimm voltage of most Epox, MOBOs.

To sum it all The more voltage range and adjustability the MOBO the better overclocker and stable it is. (not a feature of Asus MOBOs)
Which of course you must have the responsibility of cooling your OCed MOBO.

I dont know about Asus MOBOS I've heard that other people has achieved high OC with this MOBO I suspect theyre using a modded BIOS to unlock their voltage limitations, maybe even hardware voltmodding. Which requires hardwork unlike DFI and Epox with voltage options already unlocked at Stock BIOS.

Also I don't know of the newer Asus MOBOS, the ASUS A8N-E socket 939, If they still have this limitations.

I understand why ASUS has limited their voltage because to achieve longer lifespan and safety to the MOBO, which adds to the quality and durability. All I can say is Asus is not for for OCers but for average users.

maybe for you amd proc fans, asus boards suck. but its very different for me, an intel fan.

And Hello, have'nt you heard of 64-bit processing. Haven't you heard about new AMDs 64 bit procs the newcastle, hammer, and FX-55 San Diego cores. And what does intel come upto measure up, only their Prescott core. Hehe.
Wake up guys AMD is far of in the lead already.
But its entirley upto you to choose.

@fuzzylogic: 800 -> 810mhz and you brag about this hahaha! <roflmao> even a bored high school student (with lots of moolah and technical know-how) can do better than that...

I think Intel is bragging with their 800mhz FSB. Which in truth people misunderstood and realy believe that its 800mhz FSB compared to AMDs 200mhz FSB. To inform you all the the real FSB of your Pentium 4s is 800/4. and it does'nt even has hypertransport technology(significantly incraese FSB data data speed) unlike AMD, thats why I can say that Intel is bragging their 800mhz FSB.

[DD]

I think Intel is bragging with their 800mhz FSB.

no one is bragging about intel having 800FSB.fuzzylogic was talking about his DURON 800mhz CPU OCed to 810mhz. and yes...he was being sarcastic.

[flanker]

ey i have a question y man mag OC ko kai dli mo lagi boot sa ^_^

[gregggy_ph]

i have a duron 800 mhz OC'ed to 810, does that warrant me bragging rights? i dont think so. bragging rights is what you get from accomplishing something others cannot or have failed in doing, or perhaps getting the latest hardware. just clarifying...

this aint hard 2 understand...f u cud only jus read ryt...not abruptly imagining things about it or against it...hehe..kalma lng...

f ur not into xtreme oc..ocin can still b done w/o voltage adjustments...some procs can b oced at default voltage...so its not always voltage increments...hence stability

[allnite]

vaporchill costs $500,brand new.
you can overclock the CPU,memory and videocard all at the same time and not just one at a time.they all can be overclocked and running stable at the same time.
you can overclock a videocard and still be able to turn it back to its stock speeds.

@allnite..im wondering where youre getting your infos cause its very misleading.

Where the hell do you get your vapochill, flea market, LOL! Check http://www.xoxide.com/ect-prometeia-...amd64-kit.html

Sorry for not being specific. I was talking about GPU's pipelines. For example: If a GPU has 16 pipelines. If two of them are not use and you change the settings by enabling the extra pipelines. Once you enabled it you can never put it back the way it was. It wouldn't know which pipeline to got to. By the way, not all video cards can be OC and the fact is, that's the hardest thing is choosing the right video card.

[bfh2k4]

@brown_dog:

if i wanted to compare amd and intel, i'd be in another thread. this is about overclocking.

64-bit processors/computing ain't nothing new to me. i would've appreciated it more if you gave me useful apps (not just games) fully utilizing 64-bit processors.

i wasn't talking about the 800mhz fsb of my p4 proc and yes, i know how intel p4 internally multiplies by 4 the external clock gen frequency. common knowledge na bai among us p4 users who know why we chose the p4. sorry if that for you was new info. and just in case, the internal 4x multiplier started with the 400mhz procs (ext clock at 100mhz) and then the intel guys raised it to 533mhz (ext clock at 133mhz, with ht for the 3.06ghz procs), then at 800mhz (ext clock gen at 200mhz, with ht supported for all speeds). it was during this time that amd didn't have anything to match intel's offering. during this time intel's procs blasted amd procs like a juggernaut. amd then got their act back when they released the athlon 64fx series processors (which intel's p4 EE barely matched). the rest is history.

next time, when you think of ever attempting to educate us again, tell us something new.

[joelkyr]

Where the hell do you get your vapochill, flea market, LOL!

http://epowerhousepc.com/product_inf...roducts_id=552

If two of them are not use and you change the settings by enabling the extra pipelines. Once you enabled it you can never put it back the way it was. It wouldn't know which pipeline to got to.

...you have a link proving this, it would help to enlighten forum members

This thread is beginning to warm up a bit, lets just go back to the main topic

[gregggy_ph]

unlocking/re-enabling d 4 extra pipes of a plain 6800 wid d latest rivatuner is reversible...a tab option on d rivatuner reseting to load d original vga bios will bring the card back to normal...and yes...theres turning back...

[seekenneth]

@allnite - dude, theres a post your rig thread here under the computer hardwares furom, post your rig there along with the pictures.

question, about the asus sli cards on the pic, the fan exhaust is facing the direction of the hdd bays now thats stupid.

[DD]

Where the hell do you get your vapochill, flea market, LOL!

http://epowerhousepc.com/product_inf...roducts_id=552 <<<thankz joelkyr for the link.i was gonna post it too but you beat me to it.none the less...appreciate it


@allnite...
id be a little more withholding with my sarcasm if i were you cause so far..you still havent quite grasp the concept that there is more than just one maker of extreme cooling like prometia and asetek.
when i said "your infos are very misleading", i wasnt being sarcastic but trying to straighten out what you have said which is really misleading.(you even corrected yourself so i rest my case)
so before you try to bite off more than you can chew..look somewhere else and dont try to bark my way.
even correcting you GPU pipelines of info...some members are still correcting you with that.another case of misleading infos,huh?
get all your infos straighten out first before posting cause its already hard enough for other people in this forum to look,decide,search,understand and learn the "ins" and "outs" of a PC as is..we dont need to add innacurrate infos to that too.