The Sin of Abortion

[jash_ville]

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OT:
I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.
Homer Simpson

[kenshinsasuke]

dili maayu ang abortion oi,.mabelong gihapon na sa murder,..

[jash_ville]

dili maayu ang abortion oi,.mabelong gihapon na sa murder,..

basin homicide bro
hik hik

bitaw oi, kasuway na kog palit anang abortifacient
gisugo kos akong amiga kay wala daw na baligya didto sa ila bukid. para daw sa ulcer niya
gi practice jud ko niyag unsay iingon sa pharmacy, unsay sakyan padong ato na pharmacy ug unsay pangalan sa pharmacy (inosente pa man gud ko kaayo adto)

later na ko nakafigure out ug naunsa diay siya...
murag ako man siguro wala katulog sa konsensya...
siya kay ok ra man, naka manage pa man siyag ngisi ngisi

[baliguat]

i never said do it here, pre. do it in your own time, of course.

btw, i don't know where you got the idea that i'm not a believer. if you're speaking in "catholic" terms then "no" i'm not a believer but in no way in any section or thread have I stated that that I am against the idea about a higher being.

Yeah i knw that. And anyway this is a forum.

[NASYO]

situation:

sa hospital, sa ER, u need to save 1, a choice from a mother and a child inside her womb.

delikado na ang sitwasyon.

option: abort the baby to save mother

[diehard96]

sala ba mag pa abort in case of ectopic pregnancy?

[tokidoki]

sakto gyud ka nasyo. save the mom or the baby? it's still a crime no matter what you do.

[joshua_loquias]

ei people..pls dont use the name of God in vain......abortion will always be a sin..its a life..u never gave a chance for a baby to live his own life..if u think u can't raise a child on your own. keep away from unsafe ***.,,,i mean, practice safe ***.. abstinence is the best..pls do be responsible with what you will do.be mature person.. if ever it will come to you, let the child live, give to a institution if u think ur not that responsible to raise the child..

<<pro safesex>>

[tokidoki]

joshua: that advice doesn't answer the situation where both lives are at stake during birth. NASYO does have a point.

[xiao-xiao]

posts from a Catholic Forum about ectopic pregnancy

In the case of ectopic pregnancy there are two treatments available. In one, the diseased tissue of the tube is removed. This is a medical procedure done to save the mother-- the *unintended consequence* is that the baby dies because we do not possess the technology to successfully move the baby to the uterus. The *intent* is not to kill the child. The result is that the child dies because we lack the ability to prevent it.

The second method is the adminstration of a drug that causes a chemical abortion-- it kills the baby and leaves the tube intact. This is never a morally acceptable option as the purpose is to kill the baby-- a direct action that is always wrong.

I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :

1) Wait it out-- since I wasn't in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.

2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike

3) Take the methotrexate

Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn't, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.

I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn't implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).

So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!

Hope this helps.