Overseas Call Centers Target Of Anti-Outsourcing Bill

[digitalsuperman]

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para nako it's a balancing act.
as much as they want to keep the jobs abroad, they can't compete globally kay labor costs sa ila competition baratoooo kaayo.

nagpahumot rana sila kay ting election na.
they will get some jobs back but it will take time and they will not get all of them back.

this could be true though.

[SioDenz]

Has anyone heard anything about the steps our government would take should this become a law in the US? If this has been around since 2009 and the bill is co-sponsored by both the republicans and democrats making its passing likely, perhaps the country should be ready...

Phil Govt is NON-EXISTENCE in all things that is related to the employment of ordinary Filipinos. Kanus-a gud tawn nagpakabana ang Govt sa Pinas sa mga welfare sa mga tawo, mag huwat raman na sila ig ting bayad sa buwes.

[z27]

Simple ra ni.. Pwede raman ipa name (or naka name naron) og lain tao ang company nila...

Don't worry guys.. Naa daghan work around.. If businessman jud ka (og kani sila), naa jud work around basta revenue na ang istoryahan..

[Faeries]

magsugod tingali ug tuon ang mga taw ug bag-o na language other than english like bahasa, french, japanese. Para naa lain market sa ato call center.

[salbahis]

question lang sa mga agent:

Unsa pay lain nga skills nga kaya ninyo beside being an agent?

[gareb]

I'm still looking for your evidence that proves your statement "open up our economies for foreign investment, from services to resources, rendering our economies at the mercy of foreign corporations".

you obviously have not followed my posts regarding related topics in the forums. for starters, read this document from the United Nations Research Institute for Social Development on the adverse effects of IMF-WB's "structural adjustment" policies on Africa, where these policies directly affected the lives of people with or without the effects of bad government and corruption.

the evidence is overwhelming to a point that even the IMF-WB changed the name and revamped the entire policy as it has already gotten a bad reputation among its recipients. even the link wiki link that i previously provided contained reputable sources that you cavalierly labelled as "conspiracy theories". it's a shame that you cannot even consider it.

concluding that it is mere "correlation" instead of "causation" ignores blatant facts that have been acknowledged even by the perpetrators themselves.

Your post shows limited correlation, not causation and it ignores the role of corruption and poor leadership. You also just assume that smaller countries are the only ones that can succeed with trade liberalization without showing any proof or evidence why, again confusing limited correlation with causation. You ignored the fact that those "small" countries you mentioned were run by competent leadership (the British colonial admin in Hong Kong, Lee Kwan Yew in Singapore) that implemented very pro-business policies (no minimum wage, no right to strike, low income taxes).

corruption and bad governance are factors in an economic development of a country. and these are mainly due to non-transparency and unaccountability. looking at it in a socio-economic perspective, these are brought about by the imbalance of power and a non-representative government which rules with the interest of a few in mind. hence an economic solution that levels the playing field between the haves and the have-nots is in order. can this be brought about by a market hegemony of foreign corporations through economic liberalization and decontrol of the state who is only accountable to its own profit margins? no. how about the status quo oligarchy as it stands now? certainly not.

i wonder what will happen to the economy and the purchasing power of the Filipinos if we institute a "no minimum wage" policy to pattern our economies like those of Singapore and Hong Kong, without thinking of the stark differences between our economies...

China may not be at the top of the economic freedom list, but they are much higher in that list than they were before trade and economic liberalization. The pace of liberalization in that country is fast if you consider that this was once a hard-line communist country and on many of the scales used in that study you cited they are already equal to the Philippines, which has never been a communist country. Also I never labelled China as a communist state...

China sits at the 135 while we sit at the 115 of the list, making us "more free" and supposedly more, if not as prosperous as them. but as it appears we are not, despite your intimations in favor of trade liberalization. this is because they enter the global arena in the position of strength when they liberalized their economy, while we enter in the position of weakness. the same is true for the touted Asian Tigers, and even Japan right after the WWII.

Real myopia is focusing on one group of stakeholders (jobseekers) over a larger group of stakeholders (consumers).

True myopia is to think that jobseekers/holders are different from consumers. It is as if jobseekers/holders do not consume, and use their income to support themselves and their families who also consume products, services and commodities. it is simply an absurd thought. when you threaten the job of a family's breadwinner, you threaten not just him, but the well being of his family as well. multiply that with the number of families with a similar set up and you threaten an entire economy.

The passage of this bill doesn't prove that the global order serves the interests of developed countries. That's just conspiracy theory without evidence. It merely proves that governments make mistakes and pass bills that they think are best for their constituents or their political careers at the expense of sound economic principles.

on the contrary, the passage of the bill vindicates hypocrisy. when a global economic order espouses an ideological policy ramming it down the throats of everyone else unmindful of the disastrous consequences to other parties, but bewails the adverse effects of some of the ideology's points on its own, maneuvering to selectively remove these, unmindful of the disastrous consequences on other parties.

When I hear people say that poverty in Philippines and similar countries is caused by the WTO and trade liberalization I see someone trying to look for a scapegoat for our problems when the real cause of poverty here is bad government that has always been anti-business, corrupt and haphazard in forming economic policy. It's just a blame game stacked on nothing but presumptions. Maybe you ought to consider that the countries WTO-IMF are asked to intervene in are already messed up countries with bad governments, that's why the chances of failure are already built in from the start? Liberalization alone won't solve anyone's problems... WTO-IMF is invited to intervene, because most of the countries they intervene in are neck-high in debt from bad leadership...

choosing one or the other as the cause of this country's poverty distorts the entire issue. that view does not acknowledge the reality of the interplay between economics and politics and how an unaccountable ruling class can institute economic policies that are not in line with the interest of the majority. it also disregards how it uses such policies to its own interest in the guise of "liberalization" but really, as trump cards for continued patronage by foreign powers.

[kenox]

maru maning mga amerkanu gud..ari mangita ug mga employers pra mka barato sah sweldo...tsk

[peewee_toot]

^^at least daghan sila natabangan. imagine kung wlay call center.... magbaha jd cgro ang mga jobless..

[gareb]

^^at least daghan sila natabangan. imagine kung wlay call center.... magbaha jd cgro ang mga jobless..

i want to imagine a life without the dependency on call center jobs. the current government needs to re-imagine an economy that is less dependent on the dictates and whims of an outside power. it needs to focus on developing its own economy by generating jobs that will focus on national economic development, and not just augmenting existing foreign industries outside our borders.

[Saga]

question lang sa mga agent:

Unsa pay lain nga skills nga kaya ninyo beside being an agent?

murag walay kalagot sa mga cc agents hehehehe...

walay lain skills pero daku sweldo?