Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[tingkagol]

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I don't think I'm an atheist (I really don't know what I am, actually), but I will vouch for them for the sake of debate. hehe :P

but one part of this grains of sand, that someone made a very significant creation which is more viable to life..and that is the earth....so, of all this billions of galaxies in the universe why earth??..and who is that *SOMEONE*?...had all the atheist here ever questions that?

All people, atheists and religious devouts alike, question... but clearly, the religious provide their own answers for their own satisfaction. They believe in a supernatural being responsible for all this and that IT is watching over everything in this universe. The feeling of security... that everything falls in its place.

Atheists on the contrary, continue to doubt. They won't find peace without the answers, and they're the ones not jumping to conclusions. They often think that the person's eventual preference of the "theory of a GOD" is a scapegoat- an illusion to make that person feel better of his existence in the universe. Atheists, however, open themselves to all possibilities- whether it makes them feel good or bad.

Isn't it funny that to freely choose whatever religion to believe in is divine, while for one to believe in whatever he chooses with the exception of religion, he is then called as someone who believes that he is his own god? It couldn't make them any happier.

But then again, most people are religiously affiliated. :P Everyone's a critic.

[bfginus]

katawa gyud ko inyo tubag2. KulLaSa, ngano ma-hi blood man dayon ka. don't take it personally. okay, man to iya pangutana. Atheist sad ka? Kay mora man gud.

OT:asa na kaha ni ron si inday kulasa...

anywayz...in someone's viewpoint high above the universe, everything is like a grains of sand..so little that ordinary people may see it as insignificant......but one part of this grains of sand, that someone made a very significant creation which is more viable to life..and that is the earth....so, of all this billions of galaxies in the universe why earth??..and who is that *SOMEONE*?...had all the atheist here ever questions that?

tolstoi, hope di ka masuko, pero para nako wala sab nang "Someone" nga imo gipangutana. Pero and imo questions ngadto ni KuLaSa okay kaayo. Di man to angay ika-pikon. Igo ra man ka ni-express sa imo gibati og hunahuna. Kon naa nang ginoo (which is until now gilalisan pa), dako-dako gyud ka puntos para sa langit tungod sa imong pag-depensa niya.

[tolstoi]

actually im not making pogi points to God by defending His existence in this thread..all i want to express is that, for all the miracles that occurs in this world I do beleive that their is someone up there who made this all happend...from the simple things like the flowers we see, the air we breath, the life of a new born child..and many others that we atheist and non-atheist may have overlook....we'll anywayz i dont intend to make u guys beleive in what i'd posted but at least i did my part as a Christian...and i commend u also for doing your part as an atheist too..after all this is what istoryadotnet is all about

[tikboy]

hmmmm most people sumtimes debate on religion but sumtimes they both are arguing on quite a different topic.... Like sum do belive in jesus...and then the other will argue to it.. that he doenst believe in jesus.. then the former will then say do you believe in god? Then this is where it all shifts.. me i do believe in jesus that he did exist but for him to be devine then it will be a different story..

[bfginus]

hmmmm most people sumtimes debate on religion but sumtimes they both are arguing on quite a different topic.... Like sum do belive in jesus...and then the other will argue to it.. that he doenst believe in jesus.. then the former will then say do you believe in god? Then this is where it all shifts.. me i do believe in jesus that he did exist but for him to be devine then it will be a different story..

Tikboy, kanang jesus usa sab na sa giputohoan nga ginoo. pero base sa history naay pipila ka mga tawo ginganlan og jesus during biblical times pero wala gyud jesus nga ginoo. mao nga bisan sa israel wa gyud nitoo anang jesus nga god.

[tikboy]

yeah... hmmmm there is so many edition that was made, of what we had as the bible today.. and to think that the one who made it, were the past popes to the benefit of maybe the religion or their beliefs but if basing sa history it seems its no like that... a pope being killed by his successor for what reason? maybe power... some popes even declare them selves before as next to god to the point that they can make an order of mass killing those what they called as non-believers...Also one of those who made or declare some changes on the bible is constantine a pagan i think. That didnt bow to christianity not until in his death bed... Even declared today as saint constantine.. funny is it not? He declares that the the day jesus is born be changed to DEC25 and that the worship day will be changed to sunday.. Ohh by the way he is worshiping the sungod.. I think it is in Nicene Council, that he declares Jesus as God of the Gods...

- hmmm but to heck i maybe wrong dont take me seriously

[bfginus]

kuyawa diay no kon si Chiquito ang ilang declared nga ginoo? Si Chiquito na unta ron ang giluhod-luhoran ron sa mga romano katoliko? Just asking, hehe.

[bfginus]

actually im not making pogi points to God by defending His existence in this thread..all i want to express is that, for all the miracles that occurs in this world I do beleive that their is someone up there who made this all happend...from the simple things like the flowers we see, the air we breath, the life of a new born child..and many others that we atheist and non-atheist may have overlook....we'll anywayz i dont intend to make u guys beleive in what i'd posted but at least i did my part as a Christian...and i commend u also for doing your part as an atheist too..after all this is what istoryadotnet is all about

tolstoi, actually dili ko atheist. Ang ginoo nga wala diha para nako, kanang ginoo gitudlo sa mga lain-lain religion. Ang akong giila nga ginoo lahi sa ilaha. Pero akong ginoo dili malalis nga naa ug maoy labaw sa tanan. labaw pa sa mga gituhoan sa tanang religion (kon naa man gani nang ilaha). naay nagduda satanism kuno nang ako. pero dili baya.

[annais]

the question of god is so entirely without evidence on either side that it makes so much more sense to stick with agnosticism for lack of any information with which to make a decision. however, in actually living one's life, it seems to me that it becomes impossible to function without coming to a decision one way or the other. why i call myself an agnostic is because i operate on the assumption that god's existence cannot be proved or disproved, while recognizing that i can't know one way or the other. i don't know that is decision must be based entirely on emotion though. i mean, while it is clearly an emotional decision to say that, "i just know god is there, because i feel it" or to say that "one sees not logical evidence to demonstrate the existence of god, and will therefore opperate on the assumption that he does not exist until provided with evidence to the contrary."

i've been sitting here trying to think of whether one could live one's life without deciding in one's mind, at least whether one thinks god exists or not. i suppose if its just a question of, did someone put me here, then your life would be essentially the same regardless of whether he did or not. but if your belief in god in any way says that you can find solstice in him, get help from him, or pray to him or whatever, then it will significantly impact the way you lead your life. uhmm.. right? and if there isn't one, how much time did you waste, and act in an "inappropriate" way? honestly, it's like digging through wet sand to think through all this. but morally... can't you have a moral system independent of god, or lack thereof? if you do what you firmly believe is right, then it will not make a difference whether you are going to get eternal glory for it or not. i don't think it's an acceptable moral justifcation anyhow to do something because god will smite you if you don't. but if your morality is based on planning for a good time in heaven by following the bible or whatever, and that's the only reason you believe those things are moral, because God said so, then, well, a moral system without god wouldn't work.... which is why i think people who act as if there is no god and follow their own morality are in the right direction. i think. unless one uses atheism as an excuse for believing that anything goes, that nothing is moral or immoral or whatever. which, granted, some people do. but it doesn't have to be that way.

i think that's what i imagine people here have been posting about. but still, i don't see evidence for the existence of god, and therefore i am forced to assume that there is none. it's against all my logic. and for something against my logic, i need evidence. and i don't have it. still, sticking to agnosticism.

[gareb]

annais: all i see about the so-called evidences are mostly utilitarian in nature. you may not agree with me but agnosticism simply just does not change anything... more like a hands-off policy. you did reason out however that you lacked information to reach a decision, which means that the agnostic stand is relatively temprorary. the logical stand of taking the negative side by default is most feasible which suggests you, the skeptic, to take the atheistic position

but anyway, the question is not even about the unconscious drives of people to either be theists or atheist or agnostics for that matter. to do so would be red herring. the questoion posted is if whether or not belief is present and if possible the reasons for such belief. i believe it is ours to see if such reasons presented may agree with what we percieve as logically valid or reasonable causes for such belief.