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    I would die about what I believe in and my ideologies, as a famous line says "If you coud die for something, why wait? why choices?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    actually not. The question was not well thought of.

    i believe in religion...some people dont...Their unbelief towards religion qualifies them to BELIEVE on something outside or hostile to religion.

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    kay di man diay ko maayong mo huna2, palihug hinya pag pasabot kay wa gihapon ko kasabot.

    ang akong point mao nga unsa man ang mental conditon nga maoy mag motivate sa tao nga mo tuo? ug unsa may mental process nga maoy mo decide unsay tuohan?

    kun mao na nga "we have to believe" then most likely di purely arbitrary ug subjective ang decision sa pag tuo, ug ang choice sa tuohan. tingali naay objectively verifiable factor nga ma consider. mao nay angay tuki-on.

    sa statement nga "we have to believe in something" mura man ug napugos tungod sa panginahanglan. mura mag we have to eat kay ang pagkaon necessary, otherwise mamatay ta. pero ang pag tuo di pure physical/physiological act -- mental act man. so na curious ko nganong "we have to believe" man kuno. is it necessary? di ba pwede nga mo explore og ideas without believing?

    He/she got to believe in something before he/she dismissed something as untrue.
    nag presume ni nga di pwede ang open ended search for truth. sa high school chemistry namo sauna, pag sugod wa gyud koy idea about sa subject. wa koy belief or unbelief about it kay to begin with blanko gyud ko, labi na kay di gyud ko hilig og science pag elementary. pero along the way mejo naa pud kunoy nakat-unan. tungod kay blanko man akong huna2 maka accommodate og new information.

    maka hinumdum man pud ko sauna naka storya nako aktibista, nang recruit syag mo apil sa ilang "kawsa." di ko interested mo join nila. mi ingun dayun sya "ah, kay di man ka laban namo, adto diay ka laban sa mga kapitalista." kalain, abi kay di ko mo apil nilag lakaw2 sa karsada mag bitbit og plakard ingnun na kong laban sa ilang kontra

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    ^IMO...that's the trouble with ABSOLUTISM. "if you're not with me, you're against me".
    ...as what master kenobi said, "its the way of the sith"

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Got it ...

    Even if Paul is not a part of the 12 Apostles, then he can be called one by the will of God ...

    1Corith 1:1
    Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

    Sosthenes (Greek, "safe in strength") was the chief ruler of the synagogue at Corinth,
    of course he would include himself as one because he wrote that letter, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard96 View Post
    maka hinumdum man pud ko sauna naka storya nako aktibista, nang recruit syag mo apil sa ilang "kawsa." di ko interested mo join nila. mi ingun dayun sya "ah, kay di man ka laban namo, adto diay ka laban sa mga kapitalista." kalain, abi kay di ko mo apil nilag lakaw2 sa karsada mag bitbit og plakard ingnun na kong laban sa ilang kontra
    parehas mani sa ubang mga catholics..."kung dli ka mutuog ginoo pasabot ana ikaw ang ginoo sa imong kaugalingon or lahi imong ginoo"....nganong ingon ana man?..dli gani mutuo ug ginoo then himoon na hinoong ginoo ang kaugalingon or mutuo nag laing ginoo..wla gani nituog ginoo pasabot ana ang concept sa ginoo and everything that connected ana gi dismiss.

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    Am I willing to DIE FOR MY Beliefs? Belief as in Religion belief? then NO...Nganu gud intawn...mura ta'g si Moses ani, gipatay iyang anak pra lang mka-ingun ang gino-o nga believer xia...that's bad~

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapperyz View Post
    Am I willing to DIE FOR MY Beliefs? Belief as in Religion belief? then NO...Nganu gud intawn...mura ta'g si Moses ani, gipatay iyang anak pra lang mka-ingun ang gino-o nga believer xia...that's bad~
    si moses? or si abraham imong pasabot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard96 View Post
    kay di man diay ko maayong mo huna2, palihug hinya pag pasabot kay wa gihapon ko kasabot.

    ang akong point mao nga unsa man ang mental conditon nga maoy mag motivate sa tao nga mo tuo? ug unsa may mental process nga maoy mo decide unsay tuohan?

    kun mao na nga "we have to believe" then most likely di purely arbitrary ug subjective ang decision sa pag tuo, ug ang choice sa tuohan. tingali naay objectively verifiable factor nga ma consider. mao nay angay tuki-on.

    sa statement nga "we have to believe in something" mura man ug napugos tungod sa panginahanglan. mura mag we have to eat kay ang pagkaon necessary, otherwise mamatay ta. pero ang pag tuo di pure physical/physiological act -- mental act man. so na curious ko nganong "we have to believe" man kuno. is it necessary? di ba pwede nga mo explore og ideas without believing?



    nag presume ni nga di pwede ang open ended search for truth. sa high school chemistry namo sauna, pag sugod wa gyud koy idea about sa subject. wa koy belief or unbelief about it kay to begin with blanko gyud ko, labi na kay di gyud ko hilig og science pag elementary. pero along the way mejo naa pud kunoy nakat-unan. tungod kay blanko man akong huna2 maka accommodate og new information.

    maka hinumdum man pud ko sauna naka storya nako aktibista, nang recruit syag mo apil sa ilang "kawsa." di ko interested mo join nila. mi ingun dayun sya "ah, kay di man ka laban namo, adto diay ka laban sa mga kapitalista." kalain, abi kay di ko mo apil nilag lakaw2 sa karsada mag bitbit og plakard ingnun na kong laban sa ilang kontra
    see? the problem is in the way you comprehend things.

    if you are going to check my post again i never said anywhere that you are the problem but instead i said the question is not well thought of. Dont blame yourself too much cos its unhealthy for you.

    You have to believe in something before you disbelieve in other things. Simple ra kaayo na sir. kuhaa ang ponto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapperyz View Post
    Am I willing to DIE FOR MY Beliefs? Belief as in Religion belief? then NO...Nganu gud intawn...mura ta'g si Moses ani, gipatay iyang anak pra lang mka-ingun ang gino-o nga believer xia...that's bad~
    absent man tali ni cya sa iya cathecism I sa una.

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    Daghan kaayo mga tawo dinhi andam magpakamatay sa ilang pagtoo pero dili gani andam mo bayad sa ilang mga utang! Kung mamatay sila pwerteng hilaka siguro sa mga tawo nga wala kabayad nila.

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