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[bleedingboi]

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Believe it or not it exists, this is what Obama spoke against in Africa
In reversal, Catholic Church backs ‘Kill the Gays’ bill? | 76 CRIMES

I thought the Catholic Church was pro-life, even defending the right to life of hardened criminals and the unborn even it meant killing the mother? I am not pro-gay or anything but that is so #%&@ed up.

Obama is a sleezeball, everyone knows that. If you look at the article, it is supported by a movement called 76 CRIMES. a PRO-GAY body against all 76 nations who passed anti-gay laws.

Look at every legislative or Judicial building in any democratic state. Do you see bishops or priests congregating there?

If one priest writes an article about killing every f@g on earth. Does it mean the state he's in is supporting him as well? NO.

So stop whining about the government "cleaning out" or "Extinguishing" homosexuals, it won't happen. And it won't put your buttholes on a pedestal.

[pak88]

If you think that the article lacks credibility because of its sources then read about it hear then Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maybe I was wrong to attribute a statement by a priest to the church but this has some support from numerous religious leaders. Uganda is still a fragile country where it was in close proximity of the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda-Burundi. It just came out from a lengthy civil war against the so-called Lord's Resistance Army, which has caused tens of thousands of casualties and displaced more than a million people. If the people there can kill another just because they are from another tribe, how much more homosexuals?

I don't know what you meant by "put your buttholes on a pedestal." I thought this was just an intelligent discussion and not dismiss those that have the gall to tolerate gays and lesbians.

[goryo13]

showbiz man kaayu ni si Obama gud just like the rest of the actors and actresses sa hollywood nga mga liberalist kaayu. look at the many movies we have now, Barack, err, Brokeback Mountain og kato ka Jim Carrey nga funny yet ghey what's the title of that? etc.. etc.. mao ni silay trendsetters and more reason why a lot of gays are becoming more brazen. bisan ang uban ga duha-duha pa, eg kakita sa ilang mga idol nga ga cholah, ahw mu ladlad nalang hehe!

[bleedingboi]

If you think that the article lacks credibility because of its sources then read about it hear then Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maybe I was wrong to attribute a statement by a priest to the church but this has some support from numerous religious leaders. Uganda is still a fragile country where it was in close proximity of the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda-Burundi. It just came out from a lengthy civil war against the so-called Lord's Resistance Army, which has caused tens of thousands of casualties and displaced more than a million people. If the people there can kill another just because they are from another tribe, how much more homosexuals?

I don't know what you meant by "put your buttholes on a pedestal." I thought this was just an intelligent discussion and not dismiss those that have the gall to tolerate gays and lesbians.

This is still an intelligent disccussion. And hyperbolic expressions can be added to statements, like the one I bolstered out.

Sir, Uganda is far, far away from being stable. Uganda is perceived as very corrupt by Transparency International. Human rights abuses is rampant, a country divided by two military factions - the Lord's Resistance Army and the Republic of Uganda, both committing civilian murder en masses.

What would you expect from a country who promotes Child labor, human trafficking, Ethnic cleansing?

Unsa nlang gyud ang Anti-homosexuality murders? But let me ask you this, when did the US government or even RP imprisoned someone for being gay?

[SioDenz]

well, if ang lalaki kay usa ray girl karon, diha na sila banga NYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. ayaw palabi seryos boss dini na thread

bisan naa pa na sa ten commandments ug naa pa sa atong Law na sala ang daghan ka ug girl, dili gihapon na makapugong nato nyahahahahahahahh

mas nindot nuon ning managhan ang bayot ug mudako ilang Rights kay gamay ra ta kumpetencya nyahaha

pero if imung uyab di musugot duha sila, way kwenta ghapon

[pak88]

I brought that up because of a previous post in this thread that Obama is meddling in some African nations' affairs. Wala man siguro ni chance maka abot sa mga more "civilized nations."

This is still an intelligent disccussion. And hyperbolic expressions can be added to statements, like the one I bolstered out.

Sir, Uganda is far, far away from being stable. Uganda is perceived as very corrupt by Transparency International. Human rights abuses is rampant, a country divided by two military factions - the Lord's Resistance Army and the Republic of Uganda, both committing civilian murder en masses.

What would you expect from a country who promotes Child labor, human trafficking, Ethnic cleansing?

Unsa nlang gyud ang Anti-homosexuality murders? But let me ask you this, when did the US government or even RP imprisoned someone for being gay?

[Detusai]

Because the title of this thread talks about a state in AMERICA legalizing gay marriage. Not all people believe in what you believe, the same way not all countries may agree with what america has to bring. They have deep beliefs in the sanctity of marriage and family, and things like this proliferating in their backyard is enough to get those people killed.

Sure you may claim that any other european country can legalize gay marriage but unlike america they are much tolerant and will not push their agenda without being so violent about it.

Here is a quote from Zbigniew Brzezinski, author of the classic The Grand Chessboard(a important book that reveals america's foreign policies and to note some of what he has said has already come true). Published September 17, 1998

When he refers to Eurasia he actually is talking about Russia and Russia is just merely defending itself.

"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions.A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)

And he talks about a society which is actually shaped by the opinions of an elite shaped by technology which in this case is social media. And pro-gay rights are not an exception:

“Another threat, less overt but no less basic, confronts liberal democracy. More directly linked to the impact of technology, it involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific knowhow. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Under such circumstances, the scientific and technological momentum of the country would not be reversed but would actually feed on the situation it exploits.

… Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality(obama??), and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the steppingstones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society.”

What I quoted speaks for itself, no need to explain further.



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Read my earlier post. And it is not any countries right to interfere in how they run their governments. Please look at the track record of america, they said Iraq was harboring WMDs, libya was financing terrorists, etc. but in the end it was all about their interests.

Yes, not everyone has the same opinions as what you believe, but you also have the courage to stand your ground without resorting to violence. I don't need to read your last post to know what the heck America has been doing. I was not a supporter of the war in Iraq, or the other things that they have done. Just because I support their drive to legalize gay marriage does not automatically make a person believe in everything they do.

You know the saying that there is no such thing as neutral? You get all hot and bothered that America is meddling with other countries' affairs, yet you turn a blind eye to things that are happening in a country such as Russia. Sure, we can choose to be oblivious to their suffering, I mean its not OUR problem, its the government and their people, its THEIR country. Let them kill each other. But still we are responsible for what is happening because we have stopped doing something about it. You are oh so for the government of Russia doing their thing, however if it was the same thing happening here, let's say, perhaps we are living in a society where women's rights are not heard of and they are killed just because they chose to rally and stand up for their rights as human beings, wouldn't you be one of those people screaming on the speakers that they killed your mother? Or beat your sister? Or even raped your daughter? For what? Rallying? You wouldn't choose to be neutral, because the moment you choose not to do a thing about it is the moment you are actually giving more reasons for the opponent to be the stronger party.

Yeah, America has done its fair share of things, I don't fully support everything they do, but at times there are things that they themselves stand up to. At least they have a backbone. You have the audacity to be a hypocrite to stand up for countries being "bullied" by America, women and children being killed because of America and their war. But you can't stand up to people from other countries being terrorized by their own government. Isn't that what hypocrites do?

In fact other countries interfere others as well: Pakistan is one of them. Wasn't China interfering with our own waters? These are just some examples.

[Detusai]

The same way on how you relate the Holocaust to "plain rejection on Gay marriages".

The holocaust if categorized, was like a Category 10 atrocity. It was the gravest of all crimes against humanity. It was engineered with pure evil intent.

Now, adto ta sa pikas na bahin. If someone says "I don't like two men getting married in my town"

Why would you call them immoral? Branding them like Hitler?. Typical LGBT non-sense.[/QUOTE]

There's a difference with immorality and stating your mind or even branding someone like Hitler. Hitler gassed millions of people, Jews and non-Jews alike for the sake of the Aryan race, whereas immorality is defined as "The quality of not being in accord with standards of right or good conduct." to which most homophobes tend to describe LGBT people.

Sure, we can discuss peacefully about that, in the hopes that maybe you can see my point and I see your point. But if it comes down to talking down on people, name-calling or if it has escalated to violence, that's another thing. People would of course automatically be put on the defensive, would not want to be subjected to that discrimination. For me its not just an LGBT right but a human right.

The mention of the Holocaust is just an example of how far something like blind hate can go if people support it enough. They fail to see the wrong in it, because they believe they are doing what was right. If people like Putin was openly supported, who knows how far it may go? Its not because butts want to be put in a pedestal, its because its the right of a human being, as was asked long ago by the African slaves, women, people with disabilities or any minority group.

[M.A.D.]

You actually think that human rights or violence against any perceived minority are an end in itself do you? Please, america likes to tell others what to do yet they are silent in correcting their own abuses. Hmm... that reminds me of the Opium wars, china saw opium was bad for their people so they made a law that banned the use, trade/trafficking of opium. The british coerced china into allowing opium but chinese were stubborn so the british sent their warships to china and pummeled them to submission. The chinese, having inferior techonology at that time did not have a choice but conceded to the british empire's wishes. It was not because the british wanted to sell opium to the chinese, but because they wanted a way of having control or being a hegemony in that part of the world.

The same thing with pro-gay rights or human rights of whatever. America is the leading voice behind this advocacy because they want to control nations that are not subservient to their wishes.

FYI you should know some things about international politics and diplomacy

hard power
Syllabification: (hard pow·er)
"noun
a coercive approach to international political relations, especially one that involves the use of military power."

hard power: definition of hard power in Oxford dictionary - American English (US)

soft power
Syllabification: (soft pow·er)
noun
a persuasive approach to international relations, typically involving the use of economic or cultural influence.

soft power: definition of soft power in Oxford dictionary - American English (US)

Also did you know that every time the US exerts itself on other countries the US dollar index goes up? It is because investors, traders know that the US is still demonstrating its ability to displaying its status as the sole maker of reserve currency.

On the other hand the Euro is not as well designed as the dollar since the EU cannot extend itself well and it cannot effectively subdue others militarily so it really does not have that much influence on other countries economically, politically, and socially.

Yes, not everyone has the same opinions as what you believe, but you also have the courage to stand your ground without resorting to violence. I don't need to read your last post to know what the heck America has been doing. I was not a supporter of the war in Iraq, or the other things that they have done. Just because I support their drive to legalize gay marriage does not automatically make a person believe in everything they do.

You know the saying that there is no such thing as neutral? You get all hot and bothered that America is meddling with other countries' affairs, yet you turn a blind eye to things that are happening in a country such as Russia. Sure, we can choose to be oblivious to their suffering, I mean its not OUR problem, its the government and their people, its THEIR country. Let them kill each other. But still we are responsible for what is happening because we have stopped doing something about it. You are oh so for the government of Russia doing their thing, however if it was the same thing happening here, let's say, perhaps we are living in a society where women's rights are not heard of and they are killed just because they chose to rally and stand up for their rights as human beings, wouldn't you be one of those people screaming on the speakers that they killed your mother? Or beat your sister? Or even raped your daughter? For what? Rallying? You wouldn't choose to be neutral, because the moment you choose not to do a thing about it is the moment you are actually giving more reasons for the opponent to be the stronger party.

Yeah, America has done its fair share of things, I don't fully support everything they do, but at times there are things that they themselves stand up to. At least they have a backbone. You have the audacity to be a hypocrite to stand up for countries being "bullied" by America, women and children being killed because of America and their war. But you can't stand up to people from other countries being terrorized by their own government. Isn't that what hypocrites do?

In fact other countries interfere others as well: Pakistan is one of them. Wasn't China interfering with our own waters? These are just some examples.

[SioDenz]

Question, why is Holocaust wrong?

Why is racism wrong?