The Band Journey

[berserker]

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360,000 albums sold and counting in an age where someone can easily download/pirate music is just awesome. they're rocking a sold-out dallas show now. journey made the right decision.

[berserker]

i love both roth/hagar versions of van halen.

[fingolfin]

Just like David Lee Roth is Van Halen. Just imagine Depeche Mode without Dave Gahan.

.. absolutely. But Van Halen was a different story, they got lucky when they found Sammy Hagar whose voice was of a different universe.


.. anyway, back to journey... to answer my own question which was intended for leo_trams ( obviously a journey fan wannabe ) ... all of this crap is due to Neal Schon's jealousy of Steve. In the first years of Journey it was all about Neal and his guitar works, the vocals was none existant, it was like a Jimi Hendrix album, crappy vocals but damn good guitar playing. When Steve Perry came, Journey made a 360 degree turn, it became a " singing band ", if you guys know what i mean. And Steve was an instant hit with the fans with his god-like vocals and within the group it was steve and jonathan cain who wrote most of the material. To make it short.. IT WAS ALL STEVE PERRY. Neal became "just the guitarist" and this made him angry. HIs animosity towards steve started from there. When Steve released his solo album Street Talk, Neal made bad comments saying " it sounded like journey". But on this part of his career, Steve's mom got ill and he had to travel back and forth during their tours, it was like, concert venue-home-concert venue-home. And with this Neal disbanded Journey. On 1994, Steve released his second solo album For The Love Of Strange Medicine, ( this album was my soundtrack of my college years ). It's a damn good album, better than some of his Journey material... anyway, eventually Steve and Neal set aside their difference and reunited to release Trial By Fire, this album was the best of them all. ( my fave song GIRL IM LEAVING YOU, a reggae with funny lyrics ). Fans devoured the album but before the tour could begin Steve got his hip injured, for two years Steve was undecided wether to go under the knife or not. And here comes Neal, he said "fck steve, he isnt journey, we can go on without him". They got on with the tour with Steve Augeri on vocals ( which sounds like Johny Waite of Bad English ). And this of course hurted Steve Perry deeply stating that Journey will never be the same without him and that his bandmates ( especially Neal ) are too greedy with the commercial aspect of the band. And in support to Steve Perry, the god-like Steve Smith also left the band. ... and Journey was limping ever since Steve Perry left. Augeri made one album Arrival and did some tours but with lots of contreversy, the live DVD's vocals was remastered or redone in the studio to make it sound more steve perry. But Augeri soon left the band stating that he got throat infection when in fact, he can't take all the pressure. Next up was Scott Soto, not worth talking. hehe.... and now here comes Arnel. A man who Neal could just push over and control. Coz this is what Neal wants - JOURNEY TO BE ABOUT HIMSELF. He wants to be it's leader. But look at Journey now, they might be selling out arenas all over the world but due to one reason: Arnel sounds like Steve... it's still all about Steve Perry. I've listened to their new album, sadly it sucks. The songs are boring, it has no direction, Arnel was also like Augeri, singing without passion. The songs are good but it really lacks passion from Arnel.... if you want to know what passion is.. listen to the songs Easy to Fall and Still She Cries of the Trial by Fire album. Those songs are mediocre but it was made great by Steve's singing... that's the difference Steve Perry makes...

[berserker]

IMO the first 3 tracks of trial by fire are killers!!! it's just that the album is too ballad-laden for my taste.

[dieseldust]

^^nice read sir...

I thought Steve Augerie was the better vocalist than JSS because he sounds like Perry..hehehe! By the way, Augerie recorded 3 albums: Arrival, Red 13 (EP) and Generations.


I only like 4 songs from Trial By Fire: Message of Love, I Stand Alone, Still She Cries and When You Love A Woman...puro standout tracks. The rest are mediocre!

As for Van Halen, I like the Sammy Haggar era because he can play guitar

[fingolfin]

^^nice read sir...

I thought Steve Augerie was the better vocalist than JSS because he sounds like Perry..hehehe! By the way, Augerie recorded 3 albums: Arrival, Red 13 (EP) and Generations.


I only like 4 songs from Trial By Fire: Message of Love, I Stand Alone, Still She Cries and When You Love A Woman are the standout tracks. The rest are mediocre!

As for Van Halen, I like the Sammy Haggar era because he can play guitar

.. thanks for the correction, i never actually cared about journey after i heard Augeri's Arrival. Though the oriental-tuned Love By You was my fave.


.. One More and Can't Tame the Lion was good too.


.. Sammy's era was good for my taste coz he is so melodic.

[Bigfoot Oracle]

I don't understand why people have to argue about this.

Whether you're a fanboy,a wannabe fanboy or not, one should not forget the most important word in music.

RESPECT.

If you can't appreciate, shut up and keep your snide remarks alone. But then again, people are people. It can't be helped.

I love Journey. It's not about Steve Perry, Arnel and whoever composed Journey. I love Journey as music to my ears in general.

That is all.

[LytSlpr]

.. absolutely. But Van Halen was a different story, they got lucky when they found Sammy Hagar whose voice was of a different universe.


.. anyway, back to journey... to answer my own question which was intended for leo_trams ( obviously a journey fan wannabe ) ... all of this crap is due to Neal Schon's jealousy of Steve. In the first years of Journey it was all about Neal and his guitar works, the vocals was none existant, it was like a Jimi Hendrix album, crappy vocals but damn good guitar playing. When Steve Perry came, Journey made a 360 degree turn, it became a " singing band ", if you guys know what i mean. And Steve was an instant hit with the fans with his god-like vocals and within the group it was steve and jonathan cain who wrote most of the material. To make it short.. IT WAS ALL STEVE PERRY. Neal became "just the guitarist" and this made him angry. HIs animosity towards steve started from there. When Steve released his solo album Street Talk, Neal made bad comments saying " it sounded like journey". But on this part of his career, Steve's mom got ill and he had to travel back and forth during their tours, it was like, concert venue-home-concert venue-home. And with this Neal disbanded Journey. On 1994, Steve released his second solo album For The Love Of Strange Medicine, ( this album was my soundtrack of my college years ). It's a damn good album, better than some of his Journey material... anyway, eventually Steve and Neal set aside their difference and reunited to release Trial By Fire, this album was the best of them all. ( my fave song GIRL IM LEAVING YOU, a reggae with funny lyrics ). Fans devoured the album but before the tour could begin Steve got his hip injured, for two years Steve was undecided wether to go under the knife or not. And here comes Neal, he said "fck steve, he isnt journey, we can go on without him". They got on with the tour with Steve Augeri on vocals ( which sounds like Johny Waite of Bad English ). And this of course hurted Steve Perry deeply stating that Journey will never be the same without him and that his bandmates ( especially Neal ) are too greedy with the commercial aspect of the band. And in support to Steve Perry, the god-like Steve Smith also left the band. ... and Journey was limping ever since Steve Perry left. Augeri made one album Arrival and did some tours but with lots of contreversy, the live DVD's vocals was remastered or redone in the studio to make it sound more steve perry. But Augeri soon left the band stating that he got throat infection when in fact, he can't take all the pressure. Next up was Scott Soto, not worth talking. hehe.... and now here comes Arnel. A man who Neal could just push over and control. Coz this is what Neal wants - JOURNEY TO BE ABOUT HIMSELF. He wants to be it's leader. But look at Journey now, they might be selling out arenas all over the world but due to one reason: Arnel sounds like Steve... it's still all about Steve Perry. I've listened to their new album, sadly it sucks. The songs are boring, it has no direction, Arnel was also like Augeri, singing without passion. The songs are good but it really lacks passion from Arnel.... if you want to know what passion is.. listen to the songs Easy to Fall and Still She Cries of the Trial by Fire album. Those songs are mediocre but it was made great by Steve's singing... that's the difference Steve Perry makes...

no more words needed. apparently, fingolfin knows his sh!t.

[berserker]

.. absolutely. But Van Halen was a different story, they got lucky when they found Sammy Hagar whose voice was of a different universe.


.. anyway, back to journey... to answer my own question which was intended for leo_trams ( obviously a journey fan wannabe ) ... all of this crap is due to Neal Schon's jealousy of Steve. In the first years of Journey it was all about Neal and his guitar works, the vocals was none existant, it was like a Jimi Hendrix album, crappy vocals but damn good guitar playing. When Steve Perry came, Journey made a 360 degree turn, it became a " singing band ", if you guys know what i mean. And Steve was an instant hit with the fans with his god-like vocals and within the group it was steve and jonathan cain who wrote most of the material. To make it short.. IT WAS ALL STEVE PERRY. Neal became "just the guitarist" and this made him angry. HIs animosity towards steve started from there. When Steve released his solo album Street Talk, Neal made bad comments saying " it sounded like journey". But on this part of his career, Steve's mom got ill and he had to travel back and forth during their tours, it was like, concert venue-home-concert venue-home. And with this Neal disbanded Journey. On 1994, Steve released his second solo album For The Love Of Strange Medicine, ( this album was my soundtrack of my college years ). It's a damn good album, better than some of his Journey material... anyway, eventually Steve and Neal set aside their difference and reunited to release Trial By Fire, this album was the best of them all. ( my fave song GIRL IM LEAVING YOU, a reggae with funny lyrics ). Fans devoured the album but before the tour could begin Steve got his hip injured, for two years Steve was undecided wether to go under the knife or not. And here comes Neal, he said "fck steve, he isnt journey, we can go on without him". They got on with the tour with Steve Augeri on vocals ( which sounds like Johny Waite of Bad English ). And this of course hurted Steve Perry deeply stating that Journey will never be the same without him and that his bandmates ( especially Neal ) are too greedy with the commercial aspect of the band. And in support to Steve Perry, the god-like Steve Smith also left the band. ... and Journey was limping ever since Steve Perry left. Augeri made one album Arrival and did some tours but with lots of contreversy, the live DVD's vocals was remastered or redone in the studio to make it sound more steve perry. But Augeri soon left the band stating that he got throat infection when in fact, he can't take all the pressure. Next up was Scott Soto, not worth talking. hehe.... and now here comes Arnel. A man who Neal could just push over and control. Coz this is what Neal wants - JOURNEY TO BE ABOUT HIMSELF. He wants to be it's leader. But look at Journey now, they might be selling out arenas all over the world but due to one reason: Arnel sounds like Steve... it's still all about Steve Perry. I've listened to their new album, sadly it sucks. The songs are boring, it has no direction, Arnel was also like Augeri, singing without passion. The songs are good but it really lacks passion from Arnel.... if you want to know what passion is.. listen to the songs Easy to Fall and Still She Cries of the Trial by Fire album. Those songs are mediocre but it was made great by Steve's singing... that's the difference Steve Perry makes...

you should have started this post with :In my humble opinion....."

[omad]

here's the latest Steve Perry interview conducted by GQ. Neal Schon's interview comes right after.

some insights on what really happened.

Enjoy...

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