Should Abortion Be Allowed to Rape And Incest Victims?

[FAQ]

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Good for you, If there were a lot more people like you, the world would be a kinder place.

Lolz... DOOMSDAY here we cooomme!!!

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If a woman got raped, she has the reason to ABORT the baby/embryo/fetus/human being or whatever you prefer. Who are you to tell someone who got knocked up because he got raped to keep the baby? You're forcing her to keep the baby against her free-will.

Yeah, just take the baby!! Be the hero of these sexually abused women!!

[jcgoyong]

@ KLAVE ...
Back to the topic ... I guess because I am a male and it is easy for me to say it since RAPE VICTIMS are tge females . I would give in to the fact na di man jud lalim but still for me , taking a life away is MURDER unless special circumstances are involved but as long as walay health risk involved , I am keeping the baby . If it happens to my family , God forbid ... all the support would be there WANTED or UNWANTED .

im sorry to quote this but this is seriously being selfish. you are only thinking more about the baby in contrast to the mom's health. have you realized than the mom had already endured enough suffering? the mom was raped and now she have to face the bi-product of being a rape victim? and youre not giving her any choice.

and all the support wanted or not thingie, is also very selfish. why would you want unwanted support to exist when it can be dismissed? youre not only gonna hurt the mom, youd also hurt the child. its like hitting 2 birds with one stone...

im not really pro abortion but as ive quoted earlier. the question of legality is only a matter of choice for the mom. ID say abortion be allowed. it is not something required. it is only something possible to do as an option. because if you do this. this wouldnt make the mom a criminal under human law.

under god's law it may be but we live under human law. god's law is only a guideline. your god never said anything about his law being mandatory. ironically, your god stated he always forgive

[Hotmomma]

Can you elaborate more on the idioms and pardon my ignorance .

Heck I will just try my best understanding on these statements .... indeed what you said was true if the RAPE VICTIM wasnt given justice which makes it sound like , its ok to RAPE and IMPREGNATE someone because SPRINGY is around . Wrong analogy .... I would rather say and now be a PROUD HYPOCRITE , I will kill the rapist and still keep the innocent unwanted child .



I dont know how you define CONSENT . RAPE is defined though as a form of FORCED INTERCOURSE while consent is , the " victim " repeatedly said NOor just plain YES .



Indeed lahi ang definition sa RAPE thats why I clarified you unsay meaning sa CONSENT . IN conclusion , no matter how you define CONSENT basta ang answer sa girl kay NO , its always RAPE otherwise YES ang tubag but minor ang age which is I believed below 18 years of age , still its STATUTORY RAPE.



Apir !

Spring, diri sa Merika, ug jerjeron gani nimo imong juwa nga against her will, pwede ka i sue niya ug rape. labi na ang mga couple nga hapit na mo mag divorce? usahay ang laki mo tukar man jud.

Lahi diri sa Merika kay taas ilang respito sa mga babaye.

Kanang uban ako lang na gi banabana nga nganong dili man ninyo sakit ang rape? aside nga laki mo i know you wont feel it but you cant anticipate the pain the girls will feel> maayo raman na ug One-night-stand nga rape!

[Hotmomma]

yeah, since you guys brought it up.

let's pour in our own definition of rape.

for me rape is, FORCED ENTRY with a stranger or with your lover.

i don't consider a husband having ss333xxx with his wife without her consent as rape.

and yes, spring, you're right, ti's statutory rape having intercourse with a minor with or without her consent.

on a lighter note, how i wish there's a girl rapist. bwahahahaah

di ba Marius it is considered rape here?

[psyrille_alphatrix]

didto, muingon ug NO == grounds for rape...

diri, naa man pakapin ang NO....

NO, don't...
NO, don't stop... hehehe

joke ra ha...

pero I agree, diri sa pinas, mas dali pa maentertain ang mga rape cases like statutory rape... kasagaran parents man jud mupalakad ana nga kaso.. but for rape nga forced entry, divided pa gani ang views sa mga tao... some would blame the victim... some wala juy resolution sa court... imbis justice gipangita nadungagan nuon ug injustice... ahw, sakto bah? i hope i'm not


some rape victims maulaw nalang pud mulantad because they will be branded with all the "stigma" nga existent na daan sa atong culture...

[Hotmomma]

pakpak na sad ko nimo Psyrille!

[Klave]

no offense, but i would say if there are more people like Spring, there will be more cookies walking in the streets or hanging under the mango tree!

another thing, when a man f**k his wife with no concent, it is considered a rape, and yes i would keep that baby. But with a total stranger, no mo bilangkad dayun ko sa clinic right after! Pero sa akog bana bana kanang uban basi ra sad na mga "ONE_NIGHT_STAND" kinda rape thing, mao nga they think of keeping the baby. Pero kanang forced nga rape, ambut nalang jud!

peez guys!

I don't understand the idiom at all...

But I do commend Springfield for saying nga...

If he was a woman...and she was raped then knocked up...she would keep the baby...as long as her health isn't at risk...then she would either keep the baby or set the baby up for adoption.

Basing it on one angle, where she or the parents who adopted the baby are able to raise the baby properly and the baby grows up to be a normal citizen.

Then he would have done the right thing.

But I do get what you mean that he was forcing the idea of keeping the baby.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

im sorry to quote this but this is seriously being selfish. you are only thinking more about the baby in contrast to the mom's health. have you realized than the mom had already endured enough suffering? the mom was raped and now she have to face the bi-product of being a rape victim? and youre not giving her any choice.

Actually , it depends on who realizes the situation and my actions would sum up saving 2 lives on a mental and spiritual level . Ngano lisod man sabton para ninyo na walay mahitabo na living with the BI PRODUCT since by saving the unwanted child , it is up for ADOPTION and chances are if the mother wishes to , never na niya makita pa ang baby and that can be done . Who said about ipanganak ang baby then ang rape victim ang mo take care sa unwanted child until he or she reaches the legal age of 18 years old ? That is not being selfish , that is doing the right thing maski lisod siya buhaton .

and all the support wanted or not thingie, is also very selfish. why would you want unwanted support to exist when it can be dismissed? youre not only gonna hurt the mom, youd also hurt the child. its like hitting 2 birds with one stone...

First things first ... the mom is already hurt but damage control can be done . How will I end up hurting the child also ? By me giving a chance for him or her to live and become someone else is already a triumph not only to the very person who gave them the chance but to themselves na porket they are bi product of rape and their father is a criminal . It does not automatically follow na criminal ang punuan , kriminal pod ang bunga . Do you really guys still believe that birds of the same feather flocks together ? Dili na tinuod oi .

im not really pro abortion but as ive quoted earlier. the question of legality is only a matter of choice for the mom. ID say abortion be allowed. it is not something required. it is only something possible to do as an option. because if you do this. this wouldnt make the mom a criminal under human law.

If you go back a few pages back and follow my arguments , its either I put myself in the shoes of the rape victim or I encourage the victim to do the right thing . I never ever said that ABORTION needs to be OUTLAWED even though we all know its MURDER .

under god's law it may be but we live under human law. god's law is only a guideline. your god never said anything about his law being mandatory. ironically, your god stated he always forgive

Thats why it really contradicts when you guys and gals say that luoy na kaayo ang victim kay ma FORGIVE ra man diay ... how about we forgive also the RAPIST ? If our God can forgive the sinners , then there is no reason for you guys to forgive and provide all the support to the victim and the by product .

@HOTMOMMA ...

Spring, diri sa Merika, ug jerjeron gani nimo imong juwa nga against her will, pwede ka i sue niya ug rape. labi na ang mga couple nga hapit na mo mag divorce? usahay ang laki mo tukar man jud.

That is normal . It doesnt have to be close to getting a divorce , its human nature .

Lahi diri sa Merika kay taas ilang respito sa mga babaye.

Not necessarily , it just so happened that na IMPLEMENT jud ang laws regarding sa EMPOWERMENT RIGHTS of the WOMEN na wala diri sa atua . Afterall , I lived half of my life in the United States of America so I know unless in your place naa jud respito ang babay . From where I come from , dili respituon ang babay ambot pod unsay nakaon sa mga tao na abushon lang but then the moment ang babay mo reklamo , paksit jud ang laki . You name it , sexual harassment , discrimination , unequal oppurtunity for jobs etc .

Kanang uban ako lang na gi banabana nga nganong dili man ninyo sakit ang rape? aside nga laki mo i know you wont feel it but you cant anticipate the pain the girls will feel> maayo raman na ug One-night-stand nga rape!

I wouldnt know ... wala pa man ko na RAPE !! hahaha !!

@FAQ ....

If a woman got raped, she has the reason to ABORT the baby/embryo/fetus/human being or whatever you prefer. Who are you to tell someone who got knocked up because he got raped to keep the baby? You're forcing her to keep the baby against her free-will.

Pag tsur dodong FAQ ... maybe you are talking about RAPE VICTIMS na namabdos lol . Get the drift now ? maski wala na sila namabdos , pwerting SAKITA jud ana , lawm ayo ang duot that time come SUICIDAL na gani ang uban . So what is the difference if namabdos sila ? Same na sakit but if the victim chose to keep the child , mas lesser ang consequence ang gi shoulder niya .

Abi kay RAPE VICTIM man MABDOS dayon , hahahahaha !!

Yeah, just take the baby!! Be the hero of these sexually abused women!!

If I am capable of doing it ? Why not maski 1 ka dosena pa na !! But I am sure there are other people out there , I even know some of them who are capable of raising UNWANTED CHILDREN morally , mentally , physically , spiritually and financially . Now lets see who is SELFISH .

[Hotmomma]

@HOTMOMMA ...



That is normal . It doesnt have to be close to getting a divorce , its human nature .



Not necessarily , it just so happened that na IMPLEMENT jud ang laws regarding sa EMPOWERMENT RIGHTS of the WOMEN na wala diri sa atua . Afterall , I lived half of my life in the United States of America so I know unless in your place naa jud respito ang babay . From where I come from , dili respituon ang babay ambot pod unsay nakaon sa mga tao na abushon lang but then the moment ang babay mo reklamo , paksit jud ang laki . You name it , sexual harassment , discrimination , unequal oppurtunity for jobs etc .

I wouldnt know ... wala pa man ko na RAPE !! hahaha !!

my point was they respected the women's right here than there, (and most to religious nations nga sigi underdogs ang mga baye)FYI sad ni sa mga boys nato... mao nga di ko mag wonder nganong mas powerful ang voice sa parents and men over there, anyway unsa man pasuway ka ug rape? hahahaha!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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Sure and I will be glad to keep the unwanted child and give it up for adoption to qualified parents , maski si Pokwang pa ang mo rape nako , heck I would apply and if I qualify for alimony then I am set hehehehe .

That is the good thing in the US , maski unsa na siya ka weird na balaod , IMPLEMENTED jud . How much more mga balaod that would mke sense .